recycled plastic bags mancould be anything, another bag, a bottle, a rly cheap dildo, breathing tubes, hulk hogans shirt, a slip n slide, a project runway dress. sky's the limit, thats why the song is so inspiring 2 me.
― what does ;_; mean in remorse code (m bison), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
unsurprisingly i love ROAR to bits
― surm, Monday, 12 August 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
(sounds good in the car btw)
roar is just kp singing successories slogans over sara bareilles verses and butch walker choruses and the 'two weeks' beat
w/e
― maura, Monday, 12 August 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.wonderworkshop.co.uk/images/iggy/iggy01.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
Surm otm
― albvivertine, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 08:10 (eleven years ago) link
did anyone put any effort into this song? even by perry's standards this doesn't exactly scream lead single
and the lyrics are some platonic ideal of placeholder triteness
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 09:44 (eleven years ago) link
urgh this is horrible
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
i like the slogans; classic rock blankness
― surm, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
the chorus brings out the 13 year old girl in me, with one of those stretch headbands
― surm, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
wait maybe i mean 7 year old girl
― surm, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
it is a little shocking to me how much better this is than Gaga's single, especially considering that this isn't anything particularly special
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
in what universe is this better than gaga's single (which isn't even all that great)
― katherine, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
the universe where someone spent more than three seconds hacking together a poorly-EQed backing track on Katy's single and where someone allowed Gaga to sing the verses on hers like she was Tom Cruise's Lestat from Interview With A Vampire
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
entranced by this song after a few listens and i feel like i have to apologize
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Just sonically-speaking, I'm going to have more time for a song that sounds like a generic pop song than a song that sounds like someone pastiching Madonna's "Girls Gone Wild" and "Give Me All Your Luvin'" (particularly after the whole "Express Yourself This Way" thing); I haven't even gotten to the point where I care about one being dumber than the other.
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
see, I almost always prefer "loud and wrong" to "boring and right". to me the problem with "Applause" is that it ISN'T weird enough. (how would that pastiche not sound like a generic pop song, anyway?)
― katherine, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
By "generic" I meant "I can't identify a specific song that this reminds me of" (which, going by other comments on this thread, means that my campaign to actively avoid The Lumineers has been much more successful than my Owl City and Foster the People campaigns were), not that Gaga's song sounds in any way out there or shocking.
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
uh well funny you should mention that
http://music-mix.ew.com/2013/08/12/katy-perry-roar-sara-bareilles-brave/
― katherine, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
okay well now I just think they're both terrible
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
i never thought i'd say this because it's really taken me a long time to come around on katy, but "roar" >>>> "applause"
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
The similarities to Sara Bareilles' Brave are really kind of unsettling. You can basically lay the instrumentals on top of each other. It's like a slightly sped up version of it.
― Greer, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
I think everyone should have a clause drawn up in the case they find themselves copying Sara Bareilles and die of mortification
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think i've ever knowningly heard that Bareilles song
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
just by following a big album with an even bigger album perry's reached a pretty impressive tier for someone who's most distinctive quality is the degree to which she's campishly complicit in (if not downright enthusiastic about) her own objectification (and to be clear, i think her singles have been uniformly strong, I'm just saying this seems to be what makes Teenage Dream different from other multi-hit smashes, like say, Kelly Clarkson's Breakaway or Paula Abdul's Forever Your Girl). But making the self-empowerment ballad the first single rather than the third (esp when it's wan and derivative rather than striking) kinda suggests some vanity on her part ("Hey, now that I'm undeniably huge, let's focus on what I REALLY want to do"). The fact that she's also jacking the Listen Without Prejudice "burning artifacts of your old hits" motif suggests this might be the end of the road. At least until she accepts Cherhood with some dramatic novelty ballads.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
the "Roar"/"Brave" thing is confusing to me because i actually like Sara Bareilles generally so i have a capacity to be disappointed in her doing that song but Katy Perry doing it is like well that's as good as it gets with her i guess.
― some dude, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
getting called out for the bareilles/beyonce rip-offs just underscores how little she has to offer beyond Martin/Luke jams and a Playboy-Bunny-doing-charity-work persona. That she hasn't made a go of hollywood yet when even Rihanna's been in a blockbuster doesn't bode well for career longevity.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh wait, I forgot she's smurfette
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure this is how it went down in 2007:
http://bluebuddies.com/help/jpg/SmurfetteCreation1.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
I think that's the narrative she's setting up with those teaser videos, but in no way is this kind of self-help anthem a commercial risk for an artist of her size in 2013. Basically she just took two annoying yet popular trends in pop music of the last 3 years--popstars as self-help gurus and Lumineers-esque shout and clap mid-tempos--and synthesized them into one song. Radio will devour this and beg for seconds and thirds.
― Greer, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
i'd agree, esp if they've got some "Hooray For Butts" bubblegum follow-up all lined up, but I think the Sara Bareilles thing is really going to take the wind out of the sails for this one
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still shocked she had the restraint to not make Peacock a single. On that note, this apparently almost made it onto Teenage Dream.
http://youtu.be/B5Nvi99zq6E
― Greer, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
nobody is going to give a shit about the Sara Bareilles thing commercially. Kelly Clarkson's "Already Gone" was an actual, documentable case of plagiarism (self-plagiarism, but still), and it was just as big a radio hit as "Halo."
― katherine, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I know ppl will still buy this, I just think artistically you should be super mortified if you find yourself copying Sara Bareilles
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
it's so amazing: there isn't a single verse that coheres into any kind of sense. When she drops the "eye of the tiger" line she might as well have said "smell like I sound/I'm lost and I'm found" before those horrifying chorus war whoops.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was thinking of "Already Gone," but between this and the beyonce thing I'm not convinced the gravy train is just gonna barrel forward. I mean, it's rare enough someone who has smashes off their debut has even more on their sophomore album (Debbie, Cyndi, Paula, etc failed). You either need to have pipes (Mariah, Kelly) or be canny as fuck (Madonna, Rihanna) and I'm not totally sold on the latter being true.
also that "eye of the tiger" sounds almost like "this girl is on fire"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
and obv when i say "end of the road" i don't necessarily mean she'll reach tiffany levels of obscurity, just that she'll probably be in a judge's chair sooner than she hoped
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
Great. I never need reminders to hate Alicia Keys too.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
ehh i think worst case scenario for KP with such a clearly-not-rocking-the-boat project is that she'll have "only" 2 or 3 chart-toppers off this project instead of 5 or 6.
― some dude, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I will post pictures of myself literally eating a hat if this isn't a hit
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
it certainly has a better chance of knocking "Blurred Lines" out of #1 than "Applause"
― some dude, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
hey the #1 on Listen Without Prejudice was "Praying For Time" not "Freedom" so yeah, this may well be a hit
― da croupier, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.englishforum.ch/attachments/daily-life/8849d1253055003-living-rural-community-switzerland-dragan-dabic-eating-hat01a.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a card-carrying kp hater but idk i'm kinda riding with surm on this. it gets something right that all the loathsome things it's quite rightly compared to don't
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I don't really hate this even though the Sara Bareillis mentions make me really want to
― OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
wau guys`
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, I am not a Bareilles fan but Bareilles can sing and if anything Perry's got even worse
― katherine, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
as for the lyrics they only really make sense if you see them as a branding extension. like the "tiger" and "lion" stuff exists 95% because Katy Perry calls and markets to her fanbase as "Katycats." (5% is "...it's the thrill of the fight!")
"I'm the queen of the night"
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
I imagine the video will feature lots of tiger patterns.
― Greer, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
Small Talk is nice enough, but it's too slight to give her the big hit she/they want to launch another album.
Never Really Over remains one of the best songs of the year. I'm shocked it wasn't massive.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 11 August 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link
i grew to love it
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:17 (five years ago) link
"never really over" i mean, not the new song which i haven't heard
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link
lol so now i've heard it and when she sang "small talk" i was like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTZdC7vvUCo
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 August 2019 01:23 (five years ago) link