haha i think it's funny that you still have this theory since his, ahem, timing is similar on a lot of tracks, especially the new stuff
― some dude, Saturday, 10 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
still curious what that next level would consist of or if it's just "an approach to rhythm we can't really understand as having to do with our conceptions of what rhythm is"
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 11 August 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, August 10, 2013 6:55 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you still don't understand what i'm talking about, just fyi
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 11 August 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
there's a particular flow he does on that track that doesnt happen on ... any of his other songs
it's interesting that that trailer for a slick-looking "Citgo" video with Interscope logos all over it just showed up. you think that was just in the can for a long time or that they smell a hit and are still trying to do something with that album?
― some dude, Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link
i don't think that song is a real world hit as much as an internet/critical hit. i know for a fact the video was just shot though—the guy who shot it manages yung gleesh and they were just in chicago a couple weeks ago
i did wonder about why that particular one went through the label whereas half keef's videos seem very evidently handled by keef & the videographer directly.
he is apparently dropping 'bang 2' in a couple days though
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
there is def an impetus for keef to hit the 250k mark by december though, i guess theres something in his contract where interscope could withhold releasing more albums if he doesnt hit that mark. i don't see why they would do that though, even if he didnt
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link
they would def need another mini-hit for him to hit 250k by the end of the year
https://twitter.com/chartnews/status/355166634106826752
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
"macaroni time" might be his third biggest song ever... maybe fourth if you wanna include "bang"
Prez @PrezidentYoung 10 JulHe gotta clear 250k for him to keep the deal RT @chartnews US album sales @ChiefKeef, Finally Rich 1,819 (187,927 total)
ppl keep saying this but its not correct ... its that interscope has the option to hold up the release of a sophomore album.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link
btw the big lean / keef song in question has nearly a million views o_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4jAa5Za-nQ
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
i imagine they'd keep him around even so for a second album since his music seems fairly inexpensive to make and he still does well virally without any traditional promotion
that said if they push a few singles and they don't really pop he could end up in one of those hellish deals
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
all we need now is a medium lean
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
lots rappers have gone GOLD and still get their follow-up album held up for so long that they inevitably give up and ask out of their contract or seem happy to get dropped, so it's not like anything's guaranteed either way. Keef doing all these songs/videos on his own and aligning with Gucci who hasn't seemed to even try to do anything with a major in years certainly indicates that he's not holding his breath for A&Rs to greenlight a 2nd album, which is why the "Citgo" thing surprised me.
― some dude, Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
250 is the new gold
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
i think the 250k thing is more of a semantic thing, like 'if you don't hit that number, we're not even obligated to work your next lead single and pretend to give you a release date.' xp
― some dude, Sunday, 11 August 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
Prob true
I doubt the label is trying to wash their hands of him or anything though
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link
xiu xiu up like o-dogg
― yung humas (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link
"love sosa" remix ain't exactly helping your case deej: tinyurl.com/ka57yuv
― yung humas (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
http://tinyurl.com/ka57yuv
― yung humas (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link
half way through his verse he speeds up the tempo
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Sunday, 11 August 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link
Reminds me of Trane...
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 August 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
Sun Ship era maybe
― blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 August 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link
We was sittin’ there watchin’ the stage. Waitin’ for the man they called Chief Keef to come out and do his thing. It was me and my four droogs. Them bein’ Peter, Georgio and Dim; Dim being really Dim.
‘Round an hour’d passed and the place was packed straight through to the back. I’d just dropped some dollars for the Best Buy exclusive version of Finally Rich six months back. Now was the time, this was the place. The Harambee House. Chicago. 2012.
I was only there for the first night, see, but them cats at DatPiff just made my life complete. They put out a few mixtapes of all that sound. Keef put out those nights. But you know my type, man. Can’t afford to eat, let alone spend some heavy cash on internet. So I only got the essential. <i>Finally Rich</i> is one disc, makin’ it cheaper than an iPhone. And you only get the best stuff.
Man, the opening beauty of “Love Sosa” It’s like a dream I had: I floated on the River Nile, smokin’ some fresh weed, relaxin’. But I ain’t ever gonna see the Nile anyhow. This track’s as close as I come, and it’s close enough. Best of the best, though, has gotta be “Laughin' to the Bank.” It’s only when you listen to a perfect old rap tune like this that you realize how much "trap rave" is derived from this music. Keef takes it to heaven and back with some style, man. Some richness, daddy. It’s a sad thing his career was cut short by them jaws o’ label fuckery.
Shit, cat. It don’t make a difference. The man produced enough good music to last me a lifetime. This <i>Finally Rich</i> thing’s just another example of the genius of Keef.
--D-40
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:10 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― brian uoeno (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 August 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link
rolls eyes, dies
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
now i feel bad that we've got the Keef thread and the Kreayshawn thread going on at the same time
― some dude, Monday, 12 August 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
if you guys like arguing w/ a wholly inaccurate caricature of what ive said then have fun
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
straw mansthats that shit i dont like
― lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
that song is so catchy
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Monday, 12 August 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
we watched the video for "don't like" in my class last night because a st gave her first speech about him. it (the speech) was pretty good! another st said that he met keef at a car wash and he (ck) was friendly and shook his hand.
― special beet service (La Lechera), Friday, 20 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/09/gangs-of-social-media/
― I’m a sophisticated guy, I like sophisticated music (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
piece is interesting although a lil weird in parts ... the way it suggests social media bears responsibility seems a lil odd
i found this piece very interesting, argues that violence overall has gone down, but violence inequality has increased drastically:http://danielhertz.wordpress.com/2013/08/05/weve-talked-about-homicide-in-chicago-at-least-one-million-times-but-i-dont-think-this-has-come-up/
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
bears *most of* the responsibility, i should say
yeah, that hertz piece was v illuminating
― The Reverend, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLWDM2uZr60#t=163
Not sure how much creativity this guy has in the tank, visually or lyrically.
― Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
his verse on the "F.D.B." remix is kind of hilariously poorly recorded, and there's a Young Dro interview where he confirms Keef is on the official remix so it's not like a sloppily tacked-on unofficial mixtape edit or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d30pRWxLxrA
― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
yeah seriously what in the absolute fuck is the deal with that
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
why would they include that? was it recorded in a soup can?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
when that hemiola comes and...doesn't stop...
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, November 25, 2013 6:14 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 04:47 (ten years ago) link
that verse is still awesome
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link
as does this album.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 05:11 (ten years ago) link
haha I thought of this thread when Jordan said that but thought it would be petty to bring it up
― when a real whiney hold you down, you sposed to drown (The Reverend), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 07:09 (ten years ago) link
Hemiola is a common musical term it's v telling that u all read so much more into it than was there
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 08:22 (ten years ago) link
can we have a hip-hop hemiola thread?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 08:42 (ten years ago) link
how common would you say it is, like how often would you say musicians use it
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link
i mean...there's a lot of hemiola in rap these days, people usually just call it "the migos flow" or back in the day might've said "bone thugs flow"... i just disagree that keef is using it at all in that big lean song. the meter of his verse and what beats his syllables are hitting on (or near) seems clear as day to me and it's not a hemiola thing at all imo.
― deez the season (some dude), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
hahaha oh god i didn't mean to actually start this up again i'm so sorry
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
this fredo santana song is all over the fucking place, er, I mean, he's truly a master of hemiola in the Elvin Jones tradition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcZp4YeCsB8
― tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
I hear hemiola constantly but I sing a lot of Byrd, Schütz, Palestrina, Gesualdo, Tallis, etc. Anyone doing Renaissance or baroque music is going to be intimately familiar with it; jazz musicians will also be familiar with the concept but I have no idea if they use the same terminology (having just learned last week that some jazz musicians call a score a "chart", I now assume there's a different term for everything in that world).
I am willing to bet money that no one in the studio told Keef that his hemiola was dope after any take.
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Partially because I doubt the term would be common usage but mostly because nothing I've heard Keef do on record has anything to do with the concept of hemiola
― SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link