Out of the Grey is worth having, but I never warmed up to Ghost Stories.
Question: If one has the single-disk Raji's is the expanded set worth getting?
And finally, there is a live set called Live from Studio Z (Sep, 1982) that's excellent. I thought it was on CD at one point, but I only see Wolfgang's Vault now ($5 download, definately worth it).
DS live at Studio Z
― nickn, Friday, 9 August 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
It is on CD, called The Day Before Wine And Roses, on Atavistic. And it's in my living room.
― nickn, Saturday, 10 August 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
There's some great live recordings up on archive.org too:http://archive.org/details/ds1983-02-10.lateshowhttp://archive.org/details/ds1983-02-10.earlyshowhttp://archive.org/details/ds1982-03-26.flac16
(there's more, just dig around)
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 August 2013 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
DS doing the Ghostbusters theme.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/sevens_cover_versions_of_ghostbusters_from_the_dream_syndicates_1984_tour
― nickn, Sunday, 19 October 2014 06:29 (nine years ago) link
The show last night was quite good. High energy and nice full room. Added bonus, they played only songs from the 1st two records. (And a cover.)
― kwhitehead, Sunday, 16 November 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
as much as i hate to admit it, the bonus stuff on the new Days of Wine & Roses reissue makes it worth getting... of course, you'll have to hold on to the old reissue too! really think the original lineup would be nicely served by a box set, w/ the album proper plus live stuff, singles, rehearsals, etc...
― tylerw, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
Sounds good, why don't you get on that Tyler!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 19 June 2015 01:34 (nine years ago) link
What's on the bonus disc? Saw the reissue today but assumed it was live tracks or something else I don't need.
Speaking of live tracks, how was that The Day After The Days Of Wine and Roses or whatever the live CD was called that was released last year?
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 19 June 2015 02:07 (nine years ago) link
Day Before is lovely, several long guitar workouts.Shame the new Days of doesn't have the e.p. anymore. At least I do have the very old separate cd of that I think, though don't remember the last time I saw it.
― Stevolende, Friday, 19 June 2015 07:55 (nine years ago) link
here's the hype on the bonus stuff
Calling on the band’s long time archivist Pat Thomas (previously producer of reissues of four other titles from the Dream Syndicate), the previous “bonus tracks” from the 2001 Rhino CD have been replaced with a slew of never-before-heard songs and/or recordings that capture the first year of the classic lineup of Wynn/Precoda/Smith/Duck in all their low-fi glory. These are rehearsal tapes that capture a pair of songs that later turned up on the Medicine Show. Longtime fans have often wondered what it would have sounded like had Kendra Smith stayed in the band for its second full-length album. Now the band’s followers will know: these versions don’t possess the ’70s FM rock sound that Medicine Show had. Instead, they sound like Television’s Marque Moon LP. The four other bonus tracks included in this new version are four original, vintage Dream Syndicate songs that nobody outside the band has ever heard, including a nearly 10-minute Kraut-rock-inspired jam!
might be a bit hyperbolic there, haha, but i can't get enough of this lineup of the band.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
dammit they are pushing my Kendra Smith buttons, bastards
― sleeve, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link
the classic lineup of Wynn/Precoda/Smith/Duck in all their low-fi glory
Yes!
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:44 (nine years ago) link
Oh dip
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
The Rhino DoW&R (with the ep, rehearsal tracks, and the 15 Minutes single as bonus material) is going for $75 on Amazon.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
wow, crazy! so yeah, a definitive days of wine & roses box set would be
15 minutes singleEPearly rehearsal tracksday before wine & rosesdays of wine & rosespost-days of wine & roses live collection post-days of wine & roses rehearsals
― tylerw, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
in all their low-fi glory
― Wimmels, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
would definitely buy tyler's proposed box set though, in a heartbeat
― Wimmels, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
I'm also one of those loonies who really likes Medicine Show
― Wimmels, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link
I love "Medicine Show" too!
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
yeah i was just listening to that one -- love it, but i really do think of it as an almost totally different band.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
which is crazy since they just lost the bassist, but still ...
You can still get a lot of the live stuff at archive.org though can't you?I don't know why I never got around to getting the Rhino remaster. I had both the lp and the e.p. as separate cds might be why.I also have Day Before which I love. But haven't listened to in way too long.Actually surprised nothing from it has popped up on the old walkman i went back to since the more recent one died, I think I have the whole cd on there.
― Stevolende, Friday, 19 June 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
yeah more than 200 shows up on archive.org. hadn't seen that there were some of the reunion shows up.
― tylerw, Friday, 19 June 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
This thread sent me down the Dream Syndicate wormhole this evening - thank you. Is it really such heresy that I dig 'Out of the Grey' a lot?
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 19 June 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
Weathered and Torn (3½, The Lost Tapes 85-88)
The Dream Syndicate's lost album, recorded in Los Angeles between their third and fourth official albums and featuring Chris Cacavas of Green on Red
― john. a resident of chicago., Friday, 6 November 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
150-gram vinyl in gatefold sleeve; limited to 500 copies.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link
sounds kinda cool, had no idea that existed
― tylerw, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
and i really don't know cause i don't wanna know
― dynamicinterface, Friday, 3 June 2016 12:49 (eight years ago) link
Just goes to show how wrong you can be
― Prince Rogers (Version) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 June 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1154854281224499
― Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Sunday, 28 August 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
some news about the forthcoming album -- amazingly, with a guest appearance from Kendra Smith!
At one point during the making of our new record I said to my bandmates, "hey, you only get one chance to make a first Dream Syndicate album in 30 years once in your life." It's a strange statement but one that's hard to refute (unless we end up making one at some point in our late 80's--which, well, you never know).
But that was the attitude we brought to the project. Either the record was going to be great, everything we hoped it would be, or we would just shelve and write it off, both financially and publicly, as a bold experiment that didn't work out.
We felt the odds were in our favor. The 50+ shows we'd played since we reunited back in 2012 had been among the best the band ever played, the perfect mix of agile improvisation, wild abandon and rock solid grooves that had always been the band's hallmark. The only 21st century addition to the band, guitarist Jason Victor who had played with me for years as a member of my solo backing band the Miracle 3, silenced any doubters within minutes of every show. He was the perfect and undisputed heir to the Syndicate axe-slingers who had come before--raw, mercurial, knowing and skilled.
And I wrote a bunch of songs to take down to Montrose Studios in Richmond, Virginia, a place I had worked often in recent years and felt was the perfect immersive retreat where we could conduct our laboratory of past, present and future. It's the kind of studio where you can grab a guitar, sandwich, cup of coffee or beer from your temporary home and stroll just a handful of steps to the studio, ready to work at almost any hour of the day. The Dream Syndicate, after all, was never really about a ticking clock, never a slave to time or space.
The magic? It was there. It was there with almost as much ease and grace as the first rehearsal we had three years before in Madrid despite Mark Walton, Dennis Duck and I having not played together for several decades. In a little less than a week we recorded much more than we needed, guided as co-producer and joined on keyboards by our old pal Chris Cacavas (who was on hand as full-time chef as well--love that guy!)
It was obvious that this would become a record, would not be tucked away as a curio to ooze out over the decades as a bootleg or maybe even forgotten. This was for real. This was going to be the fifth album by the Dream Syndicate, albeit with a long gap since the fourth.
What was started in Richmond, ably recorded by Adrian Olsen (with assistance from his dad, Montrose Studio founder Bruce Olsen) was moved back north to be mixed at Water Music in Hoboken, New Jersey by the legendary John Agnello, who has produced, engineered and/or mixed six of my previous albums. He was the perfect choice, a kindred soul in history, savvy, humor and boundless enthusiasm. The cherry on top was the peerless mastering skills of Greg Calbi, another legend and another regular collaborator of mine.
Oh, and there was one last surprise, one more perfect link to our past and completing of the circle. One of the more intriguing of the songs we recorded was a hypnotic trance and mantra called "Recurring." I had a pretty decent lyric and sang a good vocal but somehow it just didn't work. The song and the riff were cool, the band's recording was evocative and beautiful. But I began to realize I wasn't the right singer for the song. And I knew immediately that the perfect singer would be the only other person to sing lead on a Dream Syndicate song, our original bass player Kendra Smith. I was amazed and delighted that my old friend and bandmate agreed to do it and then wrote some astounding lyrics and sang a vocal that at once as true to the spirit of the song and also turned the whole thing upside down. The song, now called "Kendra's Dream" is the perfect coda to the record, tying up loose ends from the past and then opening them up again to the future.
The past. The present. The future. I always felt that the Dream Syndicate was largely about receiving, carrying and then passing along a torch of the bands that we loved passionately but whom didn't necessarily get the love and attention they deserved, living in the shadows as cult favorites, secret passwords into a society of musical fanaticism and time-delayed impact on generations to come. When we made The Days of Wine and Roses, we were obsessed with bands like the Velvet Underground, the Fall, the Gun Club, Neu, the Stooges, Big Star, the Modern Lovers--bands who are much more well known now but were almost invisible at the time. Over the course of our lifetime we felt a kinship with other bands in our various scenes around the US (you can take your own guess, you'll probably be right) and in the years since we disbanded in 1988, I've heard bits of our sound in many bands that followed. It's how these things work and it's beautiful.
And that's one of the many things I love about this new record. It feels like the perfect mix of everything we loved and everything that followed in the wake of what we did and what we loved. It sounds like everything that I loved about the Dream Syndicate and yet sounds unlike any other record we made. It's what we did but it's also what we do. Dennis, Mark, Jason, Chris and I set the bar high. It's the way it had to be. And you know what? We cleared that bar with room to spare. And that's why it's done and it will be available to listen by more people than just ourselves. We couldn't be happier.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Where is this from? Facebook?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
i grabbed it from the World Cafe site (but seems to be the official word from Wynn) : http://www.worldcafelive.com/event/1431543
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
It's all very well but still no Karl.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
yeah, does seem like a stretch! but pretty much all reports I've heard about their recent live shows have been positive.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link
BTW if anyone here is looking for copies of Karl's first Last Days Of May album, msg me here.n (CD only - prob. not going to be on Bandcamp anytime soon)
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 18 February 2017 21:34 (seven years ago) link
New album to be released in September, the 11-minute title track can be previewed here.
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/06/20/dream-syndicate-how-did-i-find-myself-here/
― nickn, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
sounds better than i expected to be honest!abbreviated recent live set here (with another solid new tune): http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=3530
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, February 15, 2017
Wynn says in this 2013 interview that he reached out to Karl Precoda, but Precoda apparently just wants to focus on his current gig as a VA Tech Literature and Theatre professor
http://www.phawker.com/2013/06/21/those-were-the-days-of-wine-and-roses-qa-with-the-dream-syndicates-steve-wynn/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link
I like this! First bit reminds me a little of the first time I ever heard "Metronomic Underground," i.e. not exactly the sound I would have expected from this band, but an interesting departure.
― smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link
New video:https://youtu.be/AgavsxHsKNk
Side note: Was it so hard to find a title that fit the meter of the song, or vice versa? If you're going to put the emphasis on the wrong syllable in your lyrics, don't repeat that phrase like 100 times.
― enochroot, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
Kendra will be joining the band for a couple of LA shows next week.
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/12/06/dream-syndicate-kendra-smith-reunion/
― nickn, Thursday, 7 December 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link
KEXP performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=jNp29YcLP0E
― nickn, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
2cd Suspects anthology sethttp://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=618084
― Stevolende, Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link
New album in May. Info and one song here.
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2019/02/20/dream-syndicate-these-times-tour-dates/?fbclid=IwAR39HgoHdVy1KIdx4UQVcigvcCFe3aHJJRVK3wKMjzFY82ILcVNQ_CAbmcw
― nickn, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link
Anyone else spent some time with the new album These Times?
I'm listening to Bullet Holes rn and the guitar is just gorgeous... Black Light's pretty amazing too. Like the newer Church albums, they seem to have locked down mixing albums to make the guitars sound angelic.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 June 2019 01:29 (five years ago) link
that shoulda been "locked down the art of mixing albums"
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 June 2019 01:35 (five years ago) link
Another new one coming, with a 20-min song link in the article.
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2020/02/26/dream-syndicate-universe-inside/
― nickn, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
I really liked These Times. Otm about the guitars sounding gorgeous
― hooper (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 February 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link
Out today--details, link to video etc here:https://press-anti-.cmail20.com/t/ViewEmail/d/CD47FA39B42E8BBF2540EF23F30FEDED/37DF686EB1636A57DBC23BD704D2542D
― dow, Friday, 10 April 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link