the same. or, to put in in sian style, the "same."
― banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link
He's gonna play all the hits that we knew, All of the new album too, It's good to have something in these times to look forward to!
― teflon monkey, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm reading the book at the moment... it is a barrel of laughs. I like how honest Haines is about what a total cockfarmer he is. There is a bit in particular where the band are flying back from a tour to Japan, on which Haines has been playing creepy mind games with them all, and his girlfriend and bass player breaks down into floods of tears... the others have loved ones to go back to and a life outside the band, but she is stuck with old Haines.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 13 November 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I find the idea of Haines marrying a music journalist amusing, given that he hates them.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 13 November 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I read this at the weekend. It was good. Martin Carr isn't going to enjoy it. I also hope that when the proof copy becomes an actual copy, no-one notices that he spells Mu-Ziq as Muzique several times
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 November 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link
gah, this is isn't out til next year?
― Glans Christian Christian christian Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
January I think
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
He seems very fond of Momus.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link
this is pretty good
― Glans Beckenbauer (MPx4A), Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Best bit so far when he tells the drummer they're supporting Suede..."Brilliant" he says "I love Slade"
― sonnyboy, Saturday, 17 January 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
UNBELIEVABLE BUT TRUE FACT: I went to Waterstones with the person who the starter of this thread ganked his username from, and he bought this book (and enjoyed it)
― Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 17 January 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I like how he just refers to Banbury as "The Cellist" throughout
Also going to do a Palestinian terrorist themed photo shoot at the Olympic Stadium in Munich, and getting his stand-in drummer to wear a balaclava and a Direct Action Against Drugs t-shirt, on TV - guy was a real prick in the 90s huh
― Glans Beckenbauer (MPx4A), Monday, 19 January 2009 10:20 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ spoilers.
i am reading it and it is good.
― Simon Jartvik (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 19 January 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link
gah, this'll never come out in America, will it?
― Matos W.K., Monday, 19 January 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link
the exchange rate is in your favour.
― Simon Jartvik (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 19 January 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jan/18/luke-haines-britpop-louise-wener
louise wener there, doing herself no favours
― NI, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link
These days, she rarely does.
― Hamildan, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno, I think she nailed it.
Oh, and
I was a doe-eyed siren who sang with my band Sleeper about sex and suburban angst.
That's Louise, not me.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link
although...
It's not the fact that he writes "difficult" songs with titles like Unsolved Child Murder that defeats him - it's the fact they aren't about anything.
Um, this is demonstrably untrue
― Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I was a doe-eyed siren
so is this
he also says in the book that he liked Modern Life is Rubbish, and explains in punishing detail what many of his songs are "about"
― Glans Kafka (MPx4A), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Wener should be careful about using terms like "perennial underachiever." If she'd concentrated in the nineties on making decent music rather than giving "good" interviews to the music press perhaps her records wouldn't be cluttering up the racks of every charity shop in 2009.
― Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but she did have the chart run, right? Admittedly with the downward curve at the end, but still...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link
So did Robson & Jerome.
― Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
true, but you wouldn't call them undeerachievers either.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm anxious to find out who the 70's Cult Legend mentioned in the book is, anyone know?
I could only think of Kevin Ayers but I know that must be wrong.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link
The whole Cellist thing is weird... Haines just hates him for no obvious reason, and then at the end (spoiler) he seems to reconsider and start liking him. That was nice.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
has anyone ever read any of Louise Wener's books?
I wonder has she learned a new facial expression.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
My gf read her first. She said it was shit.
I remember a particularly bad article she wrote for the Guardian which pretty much said that she was the first woman ever to give birth.
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The very definition of tl;dr
― Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Gormless hamster has got her this far...
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:31 (fifteen years ago) link
when i saw Sleeper she performed without wearing shoes, which led to me hating her forever until the end of time
― akm, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Hating someone for not wearing shoes is rather bootless.
― moley, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
It shows a distinct lack of sole.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Hell regret claiming that.
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
doh HEEL!!! oh forget it...
― Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
the cellist bites back : http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/jan/20/luke-haines-britpop
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry meant to point to the comments section.
― mark e, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Good article. About time someone other than me stood up and said it.
― Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 22 January 2009 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Also reminds me that I need to sift through my two years of shitty unsellable promo singles to see if any of those pre-Hype Bands bands are in there on the offchance that some mong fancies paying me to let them own them
― Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 January 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, the TingTings used to a portisheady type band called Eskimo buttox, or something. Their one and only single is going on ebay thesedays for, ooh, a fiver?
― Mark G, Thursday, 22 January 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Dear Eskimo. I got a tenner for my copy.Happy days.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 January 2009 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dear-Eskimo-Be-Patient-EP-Ltd-Edition-The-Ting-Tings_W0QQitemZ330299311882QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL?hash=item330299311882&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
happy days be over!
(for nonclickers... ep went for 99p)
― Mark G, Thursday, 22 January 2009 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Does he mention what band he's talking about in American Guitars?
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Does he mention how fat he's got?
― ledge, Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not about a band in particular, and I think he thinks everyone misinterpreted it. I'll elaborate later if no-one else has. Disappointing lack of explanation of Idiot Brother, which is about Clive Solomon I think?
Which is the band from this line-up http://www.last.fm/event/456266#lineup that travelled with the Auteurs, Oasis and (the) Verve?
An interesting thing I've noticed is bitter unsuccessful musicians (Haines, Paul Draper) using Bittersweet Symphony as some sort of pivotal 'what we were up against' thing, but either the Verve spent about 4 years working on it or people have poor memories.
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Early 90s London is full of derivative charmless bands clogging up the live circuit. Everybody seems to be in thrall to the American bands on the ultra hip Sub Pop label, Tad and Mudhoney. Dinosaur Junior (sic)are lauded on a weekly basis. Nirvana's instant classic Nevermind is everywhere. I am working on a new song called 'American Guitars': part sarcastic riposte to British bands who cannot find their own voice, forever worshipping at the altar of US rock, part self-mythologising history of my fledgling band. Soon the British press will pick up on 'American Guitars', proclaiming it some sort of battle cry against the marauding Yanks. It won't be long before Britpop rears its ugly head, bobbing about on the perimeters, then brazenly cavorting around on centre stage like an attention-seeking moron.
― chord simple (j.o.n.a), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Haines should have been in Singles.
― Andy K, Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
ledge, capital lol
― Wax Cat, Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
terrorvision.
― mark e, Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/reviews/albums/luke-haines-new-york-in-the-70s?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
The new one is surprisingly getting great reviews.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
Luke Haines is such a country singer name.
― how's life, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link
now i'm a cowboy
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link
always wers
― Mark G, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasitDgQfCk
can't get excited about it
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
god now i'm a cowboy is phenomenal. it has this sinister undercurrent--i think it's just the cello--that makes me feel all kinds of things. it's also a very nostalgic album for me. on the other hand, this new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqRi5AFimI
why do all his new songs sound the same? i can't put my finger on it.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 13 April 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link