The Doors: Classic or Dud?

But the fact is that your routine, as it were, seems to be dredging up old threads about classic bands, spouting some ill-considered and dare I say juvenile rhetoric about how they are awesome, and working down from there. Maybe you should sit back for a few days and read some old threads, as well as archived FT articles to get a handle on the general tone of the discussion before you post another rant. We do tend to get fairly agressive with each other on these boards, but watching you and Ronan go at it has put me off almost as much as the grand old days of Doompatrol (use the search engine if you really want to know).

The only thing I think might count as 'trolling' is calling yourself "Roger Fascist".

Julio: can I state that to say my reasons for liking things are "kind of superficial/cliched even" is horrendous claptrap. My reasons are fundamental (to me, though clearky not to you). About that rock verses rap thread... yeah, sorry about that. I thought it was quite funny though. As for the marketing tripe, you are assuming too much. Rock and Roll is not just a musical style to me, it is an ethos. Yet you are right - continued use of the word in generic terms is reductive. I think the soul comments are related to how an individual views music on a fundamental level. That's a long story though...

Dave: Thank you for the guidance. I have been happily adding to old threads, sure, because I take an (dis)interest in these things. However I think my humour seems to have drifted way out to the leftfield on these boards and my failure to appreciate how fundamentally seriously the regulars seem to take posts here has been very much to my detriment. Ah, it's my way to be dismissive but by the same token, I love a fight. I had a look at the other threads and forums but the classics or duds is to me the most interesting - it seems to arouse such distaste in people.

Ronan: You seem to have a very big problem with me old chap. Still, the feeling is reciprocal so it's alright - I think you don't know what you're talking about too. You are too keen to wade in with the personal attacks though, you should spend less time focussing on what you think I am and more on dealing with what I am actually saying.

I also don't have a problem with revisiting classic old threads on a regular basis - it sure beats scrabbling around for the last few C/Ds or all that POO nonsense.

Wasn't Roger Fascist a Viz character, or is that irrelevant?

well, why don't you expand on it because i'd like to know. I want to get to what people's reasoning here.

''As for the marketing tripe, you are assuming too much''

It's a genre name that doesn't tell us abt the diversity within that...what's so wrong about this?

''About that rock verses rap thread... yeah, sorry about that. I thought it was quite funny though.''

I thought it was kind of misinformed and kinda 'funny'.

I'm not even going to bother to explain why, because I'm feeling lazy and there's no point; today's doofus hipsters have already made their Jim hatred well known.

Agree 100% with John B. as to which records are best. Funny the way their career arced like that.

"And then...she tried the second bowl...and it was too cold...and then...she tried...the THIRD bowl...and then...she ate it all UPPPPPPPPPGGHHHH!!!!"

hey diamond check out the other dors threads for more jim hataz type mentalism!

But that doesn't make it any less true."

Tom is reading my mind here.

LA Woman is probably their best, either that or the debut.

No way, you always get to choose sides with this. Much like fart jokes, you never outgrow it.

Exactly.

I do like "Touch Me" but are there any actual Doors on it apart from Jimbo?

"This record is many things - raw, fun, bluesy, varied - but it's not circusy, it's not weird, and poop it, it's not idiosyncratic! Any band could have made this album! Well, any band with a godlike singer."

Krieger was kind of standard b-level 60s/70s blues rock

Oh, for christ sake. Yeah, he wasn't Jeff Beck. Dude wrote "Light My Fire" - first song he ever wrote!!!

Nothing standard b-level about The Doors ever.

Cops in cars, the chocolate bars

Peppermint miniskirts, chocolate candy

Sidewalk crouches at huh feet
Like uh dawwg that begs for somethin sweet
Do you hope to make her see, you fool?
Do you hope to pluck this dusky jewel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsbIXm30c8k

femme d’LA
Dimanche apres midi

I have a bunch of back-up CD-R's for albums I'm not sure I want to own - mostly "audiophile" masterings that I wouldn't want to purchase if I didn't like the music that much. This past week I decided to give L.A. Woman another try as I was on a late '60s/early '70s California kick, and for whatever reason, it clicked. For the first time ever, I found myself enjoying a Doors album from start to finish. (It kind of helped to remember that the songs could be tongue-in-cheek.) Also having Jerry Scheff (Elvis Presley's TCB Band) fill in on bass was a good idea - he does an excellent job.

It was enough to send me over to Morrison Hotel and the debut, but I still found them very uneven. tbf lot of great stuff on the debut and some of my favorites are on Morrison Hotel, but as an unbroken listening experience, I much preferred L.A. Woman.

I still play The Soft Parade all the way through. Sort of like my love for the CURE's The Top, I feel like they are under appreciated flawed masterpieces, both with epic closing title tracks as well.