Elvis Costello: Classic or Dud

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When I Was Cruel is pretty good! I saw him play a club date around that album and he was awesome.

Nick Lowe plays bass on a hunk of "Brutal Youth." They should have had him produce.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 21:44 (twelve years ago)

I saw him on that tour for the first time. I still love the title track.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

Telling quote from Pete Thomas:

How old were you when you started playing music? When did you get your first set of drums? What drew you to the instrument?

I was 9, my grandmother bought me a snare-drum and cymbal. I made the rest of the kit out of old oil drums and biscuit tins.

Thomas still calls it his trademark "biscuit tin snare" sound.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)

I've seen EC with the Attractions a couple of time, the Imposters a couple of times, Emmylou Harris once, and paired with Nieve maybe three times? They've all been pretty strong, though his catalog has become so deep and unwieldy choice paralysis leads him to play it safe. Then again, a few years back he started breaking out the spinning songbook again, so who knows?

http://spencerweddings.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/elvis-costello-1.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 21:51 (twelve years ago)

Aside: Larry Sanders is the main reason I sifted through Costello's later stuff. I was beyond impressed with 13 Steps Lead Down and that acoustic version of Little Atoms.

kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)

While we're here, can we have yet another round of applause for the Attractions? What an amazing band. The playing, the arrangements, the cool ideas and personalities, paired with Costello's weird rock songs? Perfect.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)

Has this been posted anywhere yet? I haven't heard almost half of these but still found it quite an interesting order.

http://www.stereogum.com/1426582/elvis-costello-albums-from-worst-to-best/top-stories/lead-story/

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 17 August 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)

Aside: Larry Sanders is the main reason I sifted through Costello's later stuff. I was beyond impressed with 13 Steps Lead Down and that acoustic version of Little Atoms.

It's funny to realize that there are more years beween Brutal Youth and now than Brutal Youth and My Aim Is true

da croupier, Saturday, 17 August 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)

the ATUB-era episode of Conan where EC was the only guest, with interview segments and multiple performances, was what really got me all set on picking up My Aim Is True and beginning to fall in love with his catalog.

EC with the Attractions might be one of my top 5 favorite rock quartets ever, just an incredible combination of personalities and instrumental styles.

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

love his cover of "Brilliant Disguise," recorded during this era.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)

Mighty Like A Rose being routinely singled out as his worst album is just sheer insanity

PaulTMA, Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)

yeah, and North over Useless Beauty? feels like they're really working overtime to peg the 90s as his nadir.

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)

Painted From Memory over When I Was Cruel is a truth bomb, though.

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

There's a lot of imprecision and overwroughtness in MLAR that only becomes apparent after you listen to the rest of the catalog. As the second album of his I bought -- the first one bought at the time of release -- I thought the sixteen guitars per track and crazed harmonies and toy pianos sounded glorious.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:34 (twelve years ago)

Mighty Like A Rose was practically the last old album I checked out. from my vantage point it's middling but better than its rep.

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:41 (twelve years ago)

I'd put it "Couldn't Call It Unexpected No. 4" on the all-time list.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:43 (twelve years ago)

^^^ this. Best song on the record by far, and probably his best post-Blood and Chocolate vocal.

Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)

that album with The Roots is only a month away now... i was really curious and optimistic about the project's potential initially, but that single kinda lowered my expectations. should at least sound nice if he doesn't bleat too much.

some dude, Saturday, 17 August 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)

How To Be Dumb is Elvis at the most livid I've ever heard him. I wrongly thought The Other Side Of Summer was a Veronica-sized semi-hit due to seeing the video once or twice on the telly when I was 10 - guess it wasn't. Hurry Down Doomsday is great too.

PaulTMA, Saturday, 17 August 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY_Lw53udq8

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 August 2013 21:41 (twelve years ago)

This is making the twitter rounds. I assume it's a comment on the Stereogum piece:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BR532RvCYAAaL0n.png

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 17 August 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)

bzzzt

mookieproof, Sunday, 18 August 2013 00:13 (twelve years ago)

pas de poo!

some dude, Sunday, 18 August 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)

For those who scour for such things, some guy recently compiled/collected each of EC's albums up until his most recent output, with the album bundled with a disc of bonus tracks, a disc of contemporaneous performances, a disc of sessions, and/or related releases. It's a pretty cool way to dive back in for the fan who has everything, not just because it previously seemed impossible to collect everything, but because each album/era provided its own little world worth immersing oneself in.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 August 2013 00:46 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

The whole album w/the Roots is streaming now:

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/08/219316721/first-listen-elvis-costello-the-roots-wise-up-ghost?sc=fb&cc=fmp&refresh=true#playlist

Darin, Monday, 9 September 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)

First couple of songs did not impress me. Some funny comments on the npr thread. Need to hear the whole thing. So no Black Thoughts from the Roots on this, and the NPR comments say Costello is reworking some previously released lyrics on 3 or 4 songs of this.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:27 (twelve years ago)

I never liked "Walk Us Uptown," but I really dig the album, it only gets better from there.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)

"Walk Us Uptown" was so tacky and schticky I thought this album was going to be a disaster, but Costello is on his A game here (or at least his late-period A game). Haven't enjoyed a Costello release this much in ages.

Evan R, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

Haven't listened to him since the legendary shark-jumping but will give this a spin.

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)

Eh its ok

curmudgeon, Thursday, 12 September 2013 13:38 (twelve years ago)

His singing is still too facile for me. I kind of doubt I'll ever be able to get into any post-singing-lessons EC.

punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:07 (twelve years ago)

A dude at the Brooklyn Bowl concert last Monday posted the show on YouTube. For a Costello skeptic like me who hasn't paid attention since 2002, the chemistry between him and the Roots was fresh and surprising. It's making me consider the album.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:48 (twelve years ago)

before i heard this my friend said that elvis sounds like his (my friend's) pretty funny imitation of elvis singing and now i can't get that out of my head when i hear this new record

lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)

I've seen some live clips of Elvis Costello over the past few years that I liked. They showed that video of him and his newer band The Imposters recorded in Memphis a few years quite a bit on satellite TV and it's pretty spirited and a decent show. Every once in a while, I will hear a track here or there that I think is ok, but Costello tries everything and some of those odd matchups just sound weird.

I only have the 80s stuff, but that Live at Hollywood High that Rhino put out a couple of years ago is pretty ace. That band had a tons of energy at that point.

earlnash, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:01 (twelve years ago)

i made a mega mix of EC songs through the decades that really helped me appreciate a lot of the kind of conceptually iffy collaborations, which can often be better in small doses: http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2013/09/elvis-costello-deep-album-cuts-box-set.html

The Imposters is not so much a newer band as it is The Attractions with the one member Elvis didn't get along well with swapped out for a different bassist, so they still sound great ripping through all the old stuff live.

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Friday, 20 September 2013 03:08 (twelve years ago)

Really,this guy is so good, and the only thing he did wrong was release too much good stuff, so that people hear the OK stuff and think, bah, it's not as good as the (10 or so) albums of good stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 September 2013 03:23 (twelve years ago)

Those photos with questlove gave me quite a shock - dude looks like Ernie Coombs nowadays! Jeepers.

Has talent, needs to figure out how to improve (staggerlee), Friday, 20 September 2013 05:19 (twelve years ago)

good lists, dude. No "Peace in Our Time"? otoh I'm still figuring out -- years later -- how I'm supposed to respond to "The Only Flame in Town."

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 11:07 (twelve years ago)

Well, I wasn't including any singles. I came out of making that a pretty big fan of GCW though, I think the narrative around it has stifled appreciation of a perfectly decent EC album.

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Friday, 20 September 2013 12:06 (twelve years ago)

I don't think it's terrible either. It's for fans only, though, ie won't convert anybody.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 12:09 (twelve years ago)

yep

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:45 (twelve years ago)

Accurate, methinks:

Goodbye Cruel World [Columbia, 1984]

In these changing times it's good to know there are things we can rely on, so here's another solid if unspectacular effort from this thoughtful, hard-hitting, surprisingly tender singer-songwriter. Highlights include the lilting country cover "I Wanna Be Loved," the straight-to-the-point "Inch by Inch," and--who says there are no great protest songs any more?--"Peace in Our Time," which almost got him booed off Carson. B+

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)

He only has maybe 4 or 5 albums that are a good entry point for the unconverted, though. And there are at least a dozen it's better than, contrary to EC's "my worst album" patter. xp

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Friday, 20 September 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)

I think it's because it was the first one to get lukewarm reviews.

Mark G, Friday, 20 September 2013 16:14 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I get that, but it's way better than Punch The Clock imo

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Friday, 20 September 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)

Punch The Clock has those awful horn charts! Playing it now on Spotify, I realized I've heard this album several times in the last few years and still can't remember the album tracks. It might be the classic-period EC album with such disproportionate strengths. You'd think a record with "Everyday I Write The Book," "Pills and Soap," and "Shipbuilding" would be better.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 16:39 (twelve years ago)

It's funny that GCW gets tarred for 'trendy' synthesizer sounds, as if Steve Nieve was playing a grand piano on earlier albums

Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)

"Peace in Our Time," which almost got him booed off Carson.

In looking for that clip I found the whole segment (two songs and an interview!) which includes "I Hope You're Happy Now," two years before it was released:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dJH5IqUxrw

punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)

i used to have a boot of a show from the punch the clock era, took the best from the album ('tko', 'let them all talk', 'everyday i write the book')(i've somehow never really considered 'shipbuilding' or 'pills and soap' proper album tracks in my head for some weird reason but more just tracks that happened to end up on that album like 'fight the power' w/ fear of a black planet), did what it could bringing imperial bedroom to the stage, and really worked magic w/ get happy!! tracks - THE TKO HORNS. langer and winstanley and costello probably could've yielded a better album but costello was nearly burnt out, in this mode at least. goodbye cruel world was even more exhausted though it has it's odd charms, it may have been his worst album at the time but he's done worse in every manner since.

i think this may be that show -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTfurBqOlP4

balls, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)

He's since revised his estimate: now it's "worst album of good songs"

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)


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