John Cale - Paris 1919 Poll

I bet he was, if you catch my drift.

he remembers her well at the chelsea hotel if you know what i'm saying

they had sex if you grok my meaning

to be serious tho, cohen was a big fan of nico's music around the time of chelsea girl, it seems, going to all her shows etc. never romantically involved.

One woman who resisted his charms was Nico, whom he met at Andy Warhol's club in 1966. "The most beautiful woman I'd ever seen." She said she preferred younger men, but introduced him to Lou Reed, who had some of his books. "We told each other how good we were."

nico was probably like "whooooo eees thees canadian dork?"

lol that reminds me that when cohen met iggy pop he showed iggy this personal ad from a woman looking for a man with "the passion of iggy pop and the sensitivity of leonard cohen" and cohen told iggy "we should find this girl and fuck her!"

haha! all these old rock guys should just have a talk show where they reminisce about girls. filmed live in the basement of the chelsea hotel.

haha and bringing it back to 'hallelujah' (and tangentially john cale) apparently dylan recognized its greatness pretty early and covered it on tour in 1988. and of course this old story:
That ["Hallelujah"] was a song that took me [Leonard Cohen] a long time to write. Dylan and I were having coffee the day after his concert in Paris a few years ago and he was doing that song in concert. And he asked me how long it took to write it. And I told him a couple of years. I lied actually. It was more than a couple of years.

Then I praise a song of his, “I and I,” and asked him how long it had taken and he said, “Fifteen minutes.”

lol yeah that's classic.

dylan's hallelujah seems like a great idea on paper, but the versions i've heard have been not amazing.

Ie fucking terrible

Cale's version is the only one for me; I can't stomach Cohen's.

Cohen owns it live; otherwise yeah, cale or nothing.

um guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fN6CtukfEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3qw6mD_W8

otm

well this is just wonderful -

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDQyvLtAaQM

I can't see these, are you sharing crappy hallelujah covers

If so: no bono no, um

just no

what i look like kd lang to you?

Holy shit, Cohen is almost 80!

Anyway, back to Cale's playing, which on "Darling I Need You" on Fragments renders the version definitive.

new cale single -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-yJuwkWsTo&feature=youtu.be

Not bad. Takes a while to get going but when it does it's fun.

yeah i had the same thought. dunno, still conflicted over that last album. some cool stuff alongside some really not cool stuff.

The adventures of nooky wooky or w/e? I listened to it once but never went back to it. Funny cause I think 5 songs & hobosapien are really good, and liked some of black acetate. I should listen again.

some cool stuff alongside some really not cool stuff.

i.e. it's a John Cale album

New single sounds like a John Maus b-side. I like it.

I think Nookie Wood is pretty great actually.

me too. And the EP before it.

In the wake of Lou Reed's death, I've finally, after years of inexplicable passivity, gotten around to listening to this album. And it's really, really amazing.

I get a wintry feel from it for some reason, but it doesn't feel cold. Might be the season.

<3

I listened to Hanky Panky Nohow yesterday after some JWs came to my door with a pamphlet illustrating that the dead are not actually dead. Nothing frightens me more!

This album is beautiful. I really love his voice on it too.

such a wonderful album.
figured out how to play "Antarctica Starts Here" recently on piano (not that it's super difficult or anything). i think i've annoyed my wife with playing it so much, but the chords are just so nice.

and godammit that first verse

The paranoid great movie queen
Sits idly fully armed
The powder and mascara there
A warning light for charm
We see her every movie night
The strong against the weak
The lines come out and struggle with
The empty voice that speaks

though i always heard "warning light for John" -- which I don't know, might be sort of weird, but I thought it was Cale inserting himself into the narrative or something.

And I love the fact that half of fucking Little Feet plays on it.

Used to only listen to Paris 1919 but ilx has convinced me to start listening to the threefer called The Island Years.

Wow I didn't know a single one of those lyrics tyler just posted, all I ever heard was beautiful Welsh-inflected mumbling.

you're a ghost la la la la la la la la la

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This album is beautiful. I really love his voice on it too.

Yes, he's so Welsh!

Best twee album ever

I'll never stop loving a line like "I suppose I'm glad I'm on this train - and it's long"

It's not even near the best song on this album, but I really enjoy Macbeth as an outlier. It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the songs, but it's so enjoyable nevertheless. Where's the love?

the answer lies within the question

?love the where is

there's not much love because "It's not even near the best song on this album" and "It doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the songs"

yes! of course!

except i was trying to elicit responses based on its difference from the rest of the tracks. for example: what do you think?

It's a great glam rock boogie song and it does kinda disrupt the flow, I agree, but without it the album would be too short/slow/samey, perhaps?

Wrote on "Macbeth" last year:

http://thisiheard.blogspot.com/2013/07/john-cale-macbeth-1973.html

hate Macbeth and Graham Greene

Graham Greene has fun lyrics even if it's not JC's best song.

I finally picked up a copy of this - the reissue with the demos and works-in-progress. I quite like peaking behind the curtain, I find it fascinating to hear how some artists conceptualize their songs hole and others take an amazing leap i the studio.