To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

"Servicable catchy rock" was basically the review.

Well, fwiw, I seem to remember that RS gave Nevermind just 3-stars upon its release.

― Daniel, Esq.

i.e., in-the-moment RS reviews as a poor guide to what will eventually end in the RS canon

the perfect prescription & c. were regarded as instant-canon classics pretty much from the day of release

probably much more true in the US than the UK

Uh, not for those two albums (whatever they are.) And fwiw, U.S. critics hardly went ga-ga over Damaged when it came out either. Mostly, they ignored it.

"of no discernible content" is the part that always kills me.

xxp

Uh, not for those two albums (whatever they are.) And fwiw, U.S. critics hardly went ga-ga over Damaged when it came out either. Mostly, they ignored it.

― xhuxk

think i may have been a little unclear there, xhuxk. my point was that the albums i mentioned were regarded as instant-canon classic within their indie underworlds. that in the US at the time, the divide between indie and mainstream seemed much larger than it did in the UK. so indie-crit sanctification in many cases took time creeping up into the mainstream (or into the long-memory indie semi-mainstream, anyway). damaged and spacemen 3's perfect prescrip being examples.

This question is totally flawed.. "rock fans" has yet to be defined in this thread as it can mean 1 of 100 things. Make the question less vague and you may find your answer.

Origin Of Symmetry might be a good answer for U.K. residents and anglophiles.

why don't we try to define what rock fans does not mean, in the purpose of this thread first?

trying to define "rock fans" is probably a losing game. different fans define the genre differently. what emerges from all those conflicting definitions is some kind of vague, blurry ghost that can't really be pinned down, but exists nonetheless. we've gotta work with the uncertainty.

changed my mind. its without doubt fever to tell.

2000:
relationship of command - at the drive-in
parachutes - coldplay
the white pony - deftones
the sickness - disturbed
veni, vedi, vicious - hives
hybrid theory - linkin park
mad season - matchbox 20
kid a - radiohead
1000 hurts - shellac
all hands on the bad one - sleater kinney

2001:
love and theft - bob dylan
vision creation newsun - boredoms
sinner - drowning pool
gorillaz - gorillaz
origin of symmetry - muse
silver side up - nickelback
rock steady - no doubt
come clean - puddle of mudd
oh, inverted world - shins
break the cycle - staind
is this it - strokes
toxicity - system of a down
lateralus - tool

2002:
source tags and codes - ...and you will know us by the trail of dead
i get wet - andrew WK
beaches and canyons - black dice
yoshimi battles the pink robots - flaming lips
oceanic - isis
neon golden - notwist
songs for the deaf - queens of the stone age
yankee hotel foxtrot - wilco

2003:
transatlanticism - death cab for cutie
a mark, a mission, a brand, a scar - dashboard confessional
kid rock - kid rock
hypermagic mountain - lightning bolt
de-loused in the comatorium - mars volta
sing sing death house - the distillers
the real new fall LP - the fall
elephant - white stripes
fever to tell - yeah yeah yeahs

2004:
sung tongs - animal collective
funeral - arcade fire
crimes - blood brothers
franz ferdinand - franz ferdinand
american idiot - green day
they were wrong, so we drowned - liars
leviathan - mastodon
vol. 3: the subliminal verses - slipknot
burned mind - wolf eyes

2005:
X&Y - coldplay
from under the cork tree - fall out boy
blessed black wings - high on fire
wonderful rainbow - lightning bolt
frances the mute - mars volta
gimme fiction - spoon
black one - sunn0)))
hypnotize - system of a down
standing in the way of control - the gossip
separation sunday - the hold steady

2006:
the warning - hot chip
blood mountain - mastodon
black holes and revelations - muse
the black parade - my chemical romance
pearl jam - pearl jam
10,000 days - tool
return to cookie mountain - tv on the radio

2007:
new wave - against me!
mirrored - battles
pink - boris
infinity on high - fall out boy
in rainbows - radiohead

2008:
saint dymphna - gang gang dance
vampire weekend - vampire weekend
oracular spectacular - MGMT
when the world comes down - all american rejects
pretty. odd - panic at the disco

2009:
merriweather post pavilion - animal collective

just wanted to reiterate how happy these lists make me...

That's a kinda awesome list, dude.

nickelback especially

but i haven't liked nickelback since they were a silverchair/bush rip-off band...

(or at least since their silverchair/bush imitations were a marginal blip on the altrockradio landscape)

No, I totally dig. I was definitely listening to Nickelback in 2001. Of course, I was sixteen at the time, but still. You're missing Evanescence, tho.

wow lol am i older than you Mordy?

only time I thought I might like Evanescence was in that Seether "Broken" video when Amy Lee had that pair of black angel wings...w/o that lingering perv element in my personality Evanescence wd be of zero interest to me...

however contenderizer's inclusion of white pony, toxicity, and hypnotize only serves to reinforce this list's awesomeness

I guess you are! I think I love your list because it almost mirrors my own music listening evolution pretty spot-on. Except it's missing some screamo/emo albums that I was listening to around 18-19 years old (Thursday, Thrice, Coheed + Cambria, etc) and skips directly to Fall Out Boy. Tho you do have Dashboard.

Also, these lists are reminding me of tons of albums I loved, and haven't listened to in awhile. Nostalgia ftw!

To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

There is none.

coheed wd not be too bad in here...

yeah, there's tons of stuff i should have included but spaced on, both shit and shine. 00s decade of rock

whats that coheed song that actually charted a while back?...it sounded kind of like "kashmir", and actually managed to cop some of that song's grandeur, without being crushed by its colossal weight...so thats an accomplishment...

Dave Matthews Band had their big album this decade (Everyday), and if I remember correctly, Dispatch had their big album in 2000? Also, has The Rising been mentioned yet? That seems like a shoe-in for a certain kind of critical rock album list.

Hot Fuss, maybe?

Dave Matthews Band had their big album this decade (Everyday)

What? Under the Table and Dreaming and Crash both sold upwards of 6 million; Everyday sold half that.

Also, I certainly don't travel in jam-band circles, but you're only the second person I've ever heard mention the band Dispatch.

I don't travel in big jam-band circles, but among college-stoners Dispatch has always seemed huge. And you're right. For some reason I blocked out those other DMB albums. I'll admit -- not the hugest college-rock fan.

i skipped the screamo stuff cuz i'm so unfamiliar -- i dunno what's worth a mention. thursday, thrice, taking back sunday? WTF? was kinda into the braid, promise ring, get up kids & hot water music type stuff, but that was late 90s. jimmy eat world bleed american shoulda been on there. maybe cave-in's jupiter. dillinger four? different kinda thing, smaller scale...

and what about coheed? i always wrote em off cuz the whole premise seemed so goofy, but i was listening to some tracks tonight and kinda dug em. goofy as hell, but in a way that reminds me of the rush/BOC sci-fi stuff i used to dork out on as a kid. singer even sounds like geddy. what's the best place to start?

Sadly, the answer is teh chilly pepperz.

sadly, that is some bullshit

If it's RHCP, it's By the Way. Wasn't Californication in the late 90s?

nah

well yeah

but 1999, impact was in the 00s

if yr gonna rope in the late 90s (which seems reasonable), you might as well say the soft bulletin

Or Play? That seems like a precursor for a lot of 00's music (though maybe not 00's "rock" music).

Let's just throw in the first Gay Dad album and be done with it.

Let's just throw in away the first Gay Dad album and be done with it

The more I think about it, the more I think All That You Can't Leave Behind might take this. Or The Rising. Betcha they both show up top 10 on any RS top albums of the decade list.

God, what got worse? ILM or music?

Both are FANT!

^^^ all that you can't leave behind is another that i meant, somewhere in the back of my mind, to include in that decade list, but spaced on. and play's a good 99 suggestion, though more for crossover-to-rock (influence on rock?) than as a rock record. shit, "southside" alone. though it's lower-level, commercially speaking, the self-titled le tigre record is another that seems to have cast a long shadow.

what's the deal with californication though? massive hit, "substantial" in the sense rolling stone likes, but how did it define the 00s of rock?

all i know is that coldplay's ass is still cashing checks that all you can't leave behind wrote...

The more I think about it, the more I think All That You Can't Leave Behind might take this. Or The Rising.

No way. Wrong decade.

^lol

the Coheed song was "welcome Home": great song.

that girl on the strokes cover has a nice side butt

are you so sure it's a girl

The July and August 2001 cover art of Is This It is by Colin Lane and features a photograph of a woman's nude bottom and hip, with a leather-gloved hand suggestively resting on it.[21] The model was later revealed to be Lane's then-girlfriend, who explained that the photoshoot was spontaneous and happened after she came out of the shower naked. Lane recalled that a stylist had left the glove in his apartment and noted, "We did about 10 shots. There was no real inspiration, I was just trying to take a sexy picture."[22] The result was included in the book The Greatest Album Covers of All Time, in which Grant Scott, one of the editors, noted influences from the daring works of Helmut Newton and Guy Bordin in its design. Scott concludes, "It’s either a stylish or graphically strong cover or a sexist Smell the Glove travesty." Although British retail chains HMV and Woolworths objected to the photograph's controversial nature, they stocked the album without amendment.[21]

The group deliberately left out the grammatically correct question mark from the album title because aesthetically, "it did not look right".[23] The booklet insert contains stylized separate portraits of The Strokes, Raphael, Gentles, and Bowersock, all photographed by Lane.[7] For the American market and the October 2001 release, the cover art of Is This It was changed to a microscopic close-up of particle collisions. RCA product manager Dave Gottlieb commented that "it was straight up a band decision", while Gentles indicated that Casablancas had wanted it to appear globally. According to the band's manager, the frontman phoned him before the Japan and Europe release and said, "I found something even cooler than the a ... picture." At the time, the Lane photograph was already at the presses and was included in the July and August 2001 versions.[24] The Strokes' 2003 biography mentions the fear of objections from America's conservative retail industry and right-wing lobby as reasons for the artwork's alteration.[23]

someone played last nite at a wedding reception i was at 30 mins ago.
sounded like it will probably get played at wedding receptions forever. unlike anything on Kid A.