Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

...and then if you think about the stuff that Ashley Hutchings has been an integral part of you have Steeleye Span and the Albion Band, and Dave Swarbrick made a bunch of albums with Martin Carthy, and Dave Mattacks played drums on Bryter Later and a whole bunch of other stuff and ... well, it's not my poll but I reckon you might as well say fuck it and just do a UK folk rock genre poll instead.

Dave Mattacks also played with the Chills and Kajagoogoo. Who knew?

stoked for fairport poll on it's own but an electric eden type brit folk rock poll would be fantastic and also a way to bump that poll up the calendar winkwink

are you joking? i would die!

I think an artist poll should start. Spottie or Chap...?

Hmm, would there be any interest in a Rush poll?

YES

Fahey artist poll momentum building on the "Why Is John Fahey So Boring" thread...

Go for it! You'll have a couple of years to change your mind.

43. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope
44. Tom Waits - chap

With Motown done and Jay-Z results about to roll out, time to get one of these rolling, yeah?

Yeah start up Tom Waits, I'm gonna wait one or two slots while Jay Z goes and such.

Bummed about abandoned vu solo poll :(

DOUG MOE LOU CALE Sterling.

shakey why don't you do the vu solo poll? or maybe make it velvets + solo and just have really long ballots and a really long rollout?

was there one for the smiths/moz and i missed it?

and marr/others, sorry

jay results have begun:
JAY-Z ILM TRACKS POLL RESULTS - WORD TO THE HYPHEN IN MY NAME

I will take the vu solo poll but it will have to wait until I'm back from hawaii (ie next week). I assume thats not a problem.

Nobody's gone for the Smiths LL, this is your time to shine

man i hope that's VU *plus* solo careers and not just the solo careers.

I can see the merits of both, but there would probably be more voters with VU included.

i was just really wondering what ilm's top 20 smiths songs were and if anyone had asked
not sure i could handle a poll, but i do know the catalogue backwards and forwards for someone from the usa, still, i cannot possibly be the best candidate for this position.

fwiw, the answer is "Stretch Out and Wait" and then a bunch of others in some order that doesn't matter too much.

Although, thinking about the image possibilities for a Smiths results rollout is quite intriguing.

A bunch of library/archive photos with color overlays and serif type.

it would be v pretty

Nate Woolls signed up for the Smiths recently -- it's at #86.

oh good! problem solved. thank you.

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre (cancelled)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy, clemenza and Johnny Fever (finished)
39. Stax - seandalai
40. Disco - Tuomas
41. Jay-Z - some dude (RESULTS ARE ROLLING OUT)
42. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
43. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope
44. Tom Waits - chap
45. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (tentative)
46. Elvis Costello - kornrulez
47. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h
48. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom
49. Steely Dan - Bee OK
50. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra
51. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain
52. Outkast - The Reverend
53. Autechre - Leee
54. Brian Eno - WmC
55. Chic Organization - Donna Rouge
56. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom
57. Radiohead - nate woolls
58. Yo La Tengo/Dump - clemenza
59. P-Funk - Shakey Mo Collier
60. Iggy Pop, incl. Stooges - flopson
61. Boo Radleys - Bee OK
62. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier
63. Italo - daavid
64. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy
65. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt
66. “Epics” (non-classical division) - Leee
67. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life
68. Extreme Metal - Viceroy
69. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
70. Pixies - Johnny Fever
71. Metallica - Pleasant Plains
72. Spoon - Bee OK
73. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
74. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
75. Queen - charlie h
76. Dinosaur Jr. - Z S
77. Tom Petty - rogermexico
78. Elton John - Johnny Fever
79. Ramones - tipsy mothra (tentative)
80. Jimi Hendrix - WmC
81. Sightings - Raymond Cummings
82. John Coltrane - Tarfumes the Escape Goat
83. Stereolab - Moka
84. Bauhaus/Love and Rockets-Tones on Tail/Peter Murphy - Bee OK
85. Genesis + solo - NickB
86. The Smiths - nate woolls
87. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl
88. The Burt Bacharach songbook - WilliamC
89. Dead C - Raymond Cummings
90. Royal Trux + side projects - Drugs A. Money
91. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?

stretch out and nate

rubber zing

I'm up for running a Rush poll, if there's suitable interest. Won't be for about 2 years anyway, which gives me time to invite a load of dorks from the Rush forum over here for a Cygnus X-1 voting block.

Velvets material would crowd out the solo stuff almost entirely I would guess. Could do two separate polls I suppose. Surprised the vu catalog hasnt been done already tbh

I would be much more enthusiastic about VU + solo together. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think a solo-only poll would lose some people like me who couldn't get together a list of 10 songs. (I have a number of albums, but would only list Cale/Nico/Tucker--not a big Reed fan.) VU + solo, while it would indeed be dominated by the former on a short countdown of 40 songs, would produce an interesting mix, I think, if you counted down 75 or something, and you could see where the solo stuff stands in relation to the core VU songs.

I'm biased. A countdown filled with those '80s Lou Reed albums would be much less interesting than a mixed countdown.

yeah do a top 100 and let ppl vote for 40 or 50 tracks (artist ballots are allowing 30 lately and we're talking stuff like the clash, not the deepest catalog). think including vu would greatly increase voter turnout and yeah a velvets track would almost definitely win but i don't think you'd have many ppl strictly velvets (and if they did their ballots would probably be like 10 tracks right?) and it'd be interesting to see what cale and reed solo could make the final round or whatever. plus i can think of 4 easy sidepolls: best vu album, best solo album, best live album (combined), fave member.

Ian Paice in a walk for the last category.

So has Tuomas checked back in at all? I guess I could send him an email to see what's up. Either we have disco running through August or we do Stax, I don't mind.

He hasn't posted in a month.

He was supposedly going to be out for the first three weeks of July, and on vacation for a few weeks after that.

Not to stage a coup or anything, but I would be willing to handle the ballot tabulation for a disco poll if Tuomas doesn't return in the next couple weeks, if someone else wants to handle images.

eh Tuomas signed up to do it, just let him have his vacation and do it when he comes back.

Yeah, that's probably the best thing to do. Should I run Stax through August then?

(question not just pointed at some dude, in case that wasn't obvious)

no it's ok leave the decisions to me lol

Run Stax. I was looking forward to a break in between Motown and Stax, because the Motown thing left me more fatigued than I thought it would, and disco would've cleansed the palate. In the end, Stax is different enough that it won't just seem like a continuation of the last month's worth of Motown listening. (But close.)

Both Stax and disco would have a sense of continuation in my case ... I mean, had I gotten myself together and voted in Motown.

STAX! failing disco, then I say yes to Stax

(artist ballots are allowing 30 lately and we're talking stuff like the clash, not the deepest catalog)

tbf they had the equiv of nine LPs (ten if you count Spirit Of St Louis, which no-one did), a few EPs, and most of their singles (& all their b-sides) were non-album - lots more than the VU

Paging chap! Time for a Tom Waits poll!

btw I dislike the stretching of ballots to 30 or 40 or more; it makes voting feel a much more onerous task and I'm sure puts people off.

^^ agree. plus i'm all for forcing the hard decisions. not being able to vote for everything is part of the fun.

Absolutely.