Search and Destroy : New Order

OK, time zones it is..

Anyhow,

Can't say I ever noticed how much Gerry and the Holograms sounds like Blue Monday

It's the same bassline, it's the same tune!

Blimey.

check: http://www.go-quick.co.uk/Holograms.MP3

Doesn't want to load, mate. Sorry. Anyway, drunkards on this side of the Atlantic who have to go to work at a 9 to 5 tomorrow need to go to bed now. It's 2:20 AM. Goodnight.

http://www.go-quick.com/holograms.mp3

(Think I'd know my own website address...!)

@J0hn D:

I was at that same Billy Barty's Roller (Disco) Fantasy gig in 1983, as well as the Florentine Gardens show a couple of nights earlier. Fantastic show. Love it that someone recorded it from the soundboard and it's out there in FLAC. (I'd forgotten Barney's "If you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan." quote - classic)

Just such a bizarre venue for a gig. A GoldenVoice one at that.

Strangely, in an interview Tom (their US label guy) said the Florentine Gardens show was "crap". Yet I clearly remember at one point thinking, "My entire reason for being is to be standing here seeing this magnificent band play this music." (OK, so I was young and overwhelmed.)

@Millsner:

"Cries And Whispers" is my all-time favorite NO track. They only played it live a few more times after that Billy Barty's gig. I'm glad (and lucky) I heard them do it, in retrospect.

seen this yet?

http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/

spaaaaffff

thanking u

Very cool! Thanks for posting the link. Most exciting is this from the August 4th post:

Once the remaining ten singles are done there'll be some more surprises to wrap up New Order's Factory years. Remember that rarities box set you wished Retro was going to be? Yeah.

i expect to see NO back at the top of the ilx last.fm charts this month

yessss...<3

I remember grabbing one of two of these that were posted to the NOO forum as previews, but didn't know anything about the blog. Glad to see the project bore fruit!

Finally having time to go through these and they are amazing.

On the other hand Bad Lieutenant's first single is now streaming on myspace and it's quite disappointing.

Thanks for that link! I've been looking for that Record Mirror mix of Subculture for a few months now. Best version, IMHO. Awes.

oh my god, that Recycle blog is the single greatest thing I have ever seen on the internet

I'm glad this blog is getting attention, hosted by the husband of my friend and sometime ILM contributor Thomas Inskeep. Some of these cuts are revelatory.

Someone stole my idea for a blog. I have most of these. Took me around four years.

loving the 12" version of Shellshock so much right now

so i love New Order, but I'm not a crazed superfan -- what's the deal with all of this material? It's all OOP/unavailable? For god's sake, why? Fill me in here!

Because Rob Gretton is dead, the band don’t speak to each other, and the record company are so incompetent wrt the catalogue that they had to recall the entire pressing of double-disc remasters they put out last year due to sub-par sound quality and wrong songs.

in a nutshell

loving the 12" version of Shellshock so much right now

^^^This.

too bad the blogger is not a big fan of Robie's edits. As a fan of that style of editing, and Robie in general, I love Shellshock. Backing vocals and all.

heh, thanks for the sum-up, sic. God bless the Internet!

xpost OTM

I am not a fan of Robie either. He came off as a prick in New Order Story. I feel like he ruined both Sub-Culture and Shellshock. Both songs sound much better live although the Record Mirror mix of Sub-Culture is the best mix (mostly because it's a beefed edit of the album version sans idiotic repeating sampler jack-offery and sans that horribly out of time bass sequencer).

Funny, I didn't think him at all prick-ish in NO Story...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhepHqsO8E

John Robie clip.

Yeah, doesn't bug me at all, but maybe I'm predisposed to like him because I think he's a genius.

If I don't like the 2 mixes he did for New Order, can you recommend some other mixes he did that you consider contributions to his 'genius' status?

Love this blog, thanks Electric Sound!

Is robie listening to Fancy's Come Inside?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1fQZg2oVno

beyond "mixes", stuff like Planet Rock and One More Shot pretty much solidify Robie's cred. Hip Hop Be-Bop Don't Stop, Play At Your Own Risk, Pack Jam, etc.

Rumors have it that Robies contributions have been understated while Bakers have been overstated.

Sounds about right. (Just listened to the full-length "Sub-Culture" remix and while it's a product of its time as the blog notes I always thought it was pretty amazing.)

xpost, also Bambaataa's "Looking for the Perfect Beat" and Freestyle - "Don't Stop the Rock".

The thing about the "Sub-Culture" remix is that it's so densely packed and seemingly random at moments yet you notice how incredibly precise elements drop in only after they happen. The reverbed syncopated kicks are my favorite part.

Glad to see the Robie Sub-Culture mix getting a good reception here. Much better than the album version imho.

So I'm trying to figure out what the rest of these entries will be assuming 20 entries total and going up to "World in Motion" and I think I have it:

13. Bizarre Love Triangle
14. True Faith
15. Touched by the Hand of God
16. Blue Monday '88
17. Fine Time
18. Round and Round
19. Run2
20. World in Motion

I love the Subculture mix with all my heart except for that damn farty bass sound- it's bugged the shit out of me for well over a decade now. Had a similar problem recently with the clonking cowbell (or whatever it is) in Capracara's "King of the Witches" but I've finally gotten to the point where it doesn't stick out so much.

And that blog has absolutely made my week.

(and did they ever put out corrected versions of the reissues?)

They're due soon.

I can't seem to find an announcement, are they just replacing discs or are there new discs going to retail?

holy shit this blog is amazing

The Recycle blog's currently working on 'Bizarre Love Triangle'. And the running order of the rest is confirmed, pretty much like I figured:

True Faith (already done)
Touched By The Hand Of God
Blue Monday '88
Fine Time (already done)
Round & Round
Run 2 (already done)
World In Motion

Will be utterly fantastic to have a definitive Run 2 single available.

Hope TBTHOG includes the early mixes, too (from 'Salvation!'?), since they're pretty fantastic.

Hm, now I know what my favourite adjective is when I've been drinking.

Hi there, I'm Jeb - the fellow who is doing the Recycle blog. It makes me really happy to see other people excited about the work we're doing.

@millsner - the Salvation! tracks will be on one of five additional listening discs that sit alongside each of the 80's studio LPs:

New Order Factory Irregulars
1. Additional Listening 1980-1981
2. Additional Listening 1982-1983
3. Additional Listening 1984-1985
4. Additional Listening 1986-1987
5. Additional Listening 1988-1990

Each disc is about an hour-long collection of rare, soundtrack, compilation, demo, and live material. There's a significant amount of material that's never been released. They also come with full artwork that compliments each studio album.

At that point the Recyle blog will contain everything the band officially released between 1980-1990 in remastered form, except for the studio albums, because they're still in print.

Sir, you are doing good deeds beyond compare. :-)

yeah, this is basically the best argument yet for bands putting reissue campaigns in the hands of dedicated fans. for real!