i'd agree with that re: production
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:43 (twelve years ago)
i just don't think they ever had an idea of what kind of band they wanted to be
I wish they'd decided to be the band that made "Salvation" and songs like "Salvation" forever. People who call her voice annoying should really think for a second about their Siouxsie and E Fraser fandom bc some women sing like that and it is awesome
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)
yeah. i like when her singing gets guttural because it is sort of unexpected based on what her voice usually sounds like, and it sounds like she is straining to sing like that which produces a compelling kind of tension. also in zombie, the quivering/cracking thing she does is perfectly executed. that song is anything but a "slog"
― Treeship, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)
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Yeah, but then Delores sings like that and it doesn't sound awesome. In my opinion, anyway. The sad thing is, after the success of 'Zombie', and then To The Faithful Departed, Delores never quite regained the softer voice she once had on the first album and portions of the second album. Even when they tried to return to their early sound on some of their later albums, Delores' voice was still in jackhammer mode, as if it were poised to belt out 'Hollywood' for all eternity.
― I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:50 (twelve years ago)
And as for Delores herself, her transition from shy/butter-wouldn't-melt circa the first album to the arrogant, preachy and downright nuts woman she was circa the third album was quite something.
― I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)
she was good in that Father Ted episode tho
― Mancunian stagger (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)
heard "dreams" on the local classic rock station last week, which struck me as an odd song to cross over in that direction.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)
jesus, i can muster up some defenses of delores but she's not even in the vicinity of e. fraser.
sometimes it seems like delores did not have much of a natural ear.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 01:58 (twelve years ago)
I'm thinking "Garlands" -> "Treasure" E. Fraser and there is not an ocean between them. There is a river and some mix decisions
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 02:48 (twelve years ago)
Beyond that tho yeah there's an ocean and a continent
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)
i like the 2 cranberries songs i have heard and honestly did not realize ppl were so angry about them for ages
― dyl, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 05:13 (twelve years ago)
Salvation is bellowy dolores at her worst imo, zombie is fine, dreams and linger great, ode to my family i find in my head more than any of em
Terrible live iirc
― esperantzen (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 09:23 (twelve years ago)
darragh otm. I think my favorites of theirs melody-wise may be "Empty" and "Free to Decide," the lyrical silliness of the latter notwithstanding.
― it itches like a porky pine sitting on your dick (Phil D.), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 10:44 (twelve years ago)
Every time I think of this band now I get the song "Bosnia" stuck in my head and I can't stop giggling
― "Post-Oven" (DJP), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 12:34 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 16:13 (twelve years ago)
aaahaha fuck, beaten to the punch on that video. oh well. warrants a second viewing, certainly
i miss the random googlers
― nurse with attitude (get bent), Sunday, 1 June 2014 21:43 (twelve years ago)
Think I'll revive this thread instead of some of the other ones. Dolores O'Riordan has suddenly passed.
https://www.rte.ie/amp/933526/?__twitter_impression=true
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:19 (eight years ago)
oh shit! whoa. that's really too bad. I can't say I liked anything after the first two albums but those records were good enough at the time.
― akm, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:22 (eight years ago)
wtaf
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:23 (eight years ago)
I loved 'Linger': a special record. And admired the whole first LP: it was always curious how good it was.
― the pinefox, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:23 (eight years ago)
Horrible news. The only people who dislike Linger and/or Dreams are soulless hipsters.
― treeship 2, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:26 (eight years ago)
this is devastating
― infinity (∞), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:28 (eight years ago)
she was having some sort of breakdown last year, i hope its not suicide
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:28 (eight years ago)
Dreams and Linger are great songs yes
RIP :(
― Jeff W, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:30 (eight years ago)
Zombie is also a great song.
― treeship 2, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:31 (eight years ago)
"Linger" is forever
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:39 (eight years ago)
"died suddenly" suggests it could be suicide
― PaulTMA, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:42 (eight years ago)
loved those first two albums. RIP
― kinder, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:44 (eight years ago)
46 man, no age.
I'd hold off on the suicide speculation, frankly. I still remember when the God Machine's Jimmy Fernandez died suddenly as a young man during sessions for their second (and last) album, out of nowhere. More information will come as it does.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:46 (eight years ago)
can't imagine my life without 'linger'.
― Nourry, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:46 (eight years ago)
Whoa
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:50 (eight years ago)
https://youtu.be/Y95VtBO_zZA
― treeship 2, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:51 (eight years ago)
This will get a big wave of tributes in the Irish press. They look after - or, are very interested in - their own.
― the pinefox, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:55 (eight years ago)
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Agreed
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:04 (eight years ago)
i really liked them, and her. i only heard the first couple of albums so i can't speak to anything from the third album on but those first couple were pretty fine albums overall.
― omar little, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:12 (eight years ago)
Wow. I feel like I've been hearing the Cranberries name-dropped recently more than ever, it seemed the critical revival (or just rediscovery by younger listeners?) was happening.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)
aww man
Was never much of a fan of the Cranberries but Dreams is one of the all-time great songs by anyone
― silverfish, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)
They were obviously making top shelf dream pop (heavy on the pop). I don’t know what happened in the 90s but the critical ambivalence they attracted — or the idea that they were a “guilty pleasure” — made no sense.
― treeship 2, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:15 (eight years ago)
I still really like that first record a lot. She seemed troubled in recent years. RIP.
― Brave Combover (Dan Peterson), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:15 (eight years ago)
Dreams, Linger, Empty, Twenty-One, Free to Decide, When You're Gone all K-classic to me.
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:17 (eight years ago)
Her singing voice, with that Irish lilt, was absurdly beautiful.
― treeship 2, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:17 (eight years ago)
I liked the first two LP's, especially the production. The third one is where I jumped ship.
RIP.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:38 (eight years ago)
it's a slow work day today so i've put on everybody's doing it in the office
definitely takes me back
what a loss
― infinity (∞), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:41 (eight years ago)
The first record soundtracked a big period of my youth and I fell in love with D via the songs and the photographs of her in the CD insert. R i p.
― calstars, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:50 (eight years ago)
The strange thing is I was actually listening to 'When You're Gone' when the news broke. Just the weirdest coincidence.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Monday, 15 January 2018 18:50 (eight years ago)
maybe she will come back as a zombie, zombie, zombie ie ie ie
― akm, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:54 (eight years ago)