Pearl Jam - C or D?

Haha awesome.

I looked at their London setlist from the other night, it was so close to my ideal PJ set. Really hope I get to see the Baltimore show on this tour.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/07/live-review-pearl-jam-at-chicagos-wrigley-field-719/

some dude, my blood ran cold until i realised the pj show was in london ontario and not london england.

lol sorry, the PJ twitter was just listing off the setlist with #PJLondon so it didn't even occur to me which London it might be

New track from Lightning Bolt, "Sirens"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXP6TDtW0w

Ok, I unabashedly love "Sirens" and it has me really excited for the album. I mean, I know it's Pearl Jam ballad by numbers, but it's the best one they've pulled off in a long time.

it gets good by the end but the beginning is pretty corny. will prob need to appreciate in the context of the album. kinda love "Mind Your Manners" now, though.

first few times i listened to sirens i thought it was crazy corny, but after playing it a bunch of times i gave in and love it now. the album has a number of moments like that - it's their most 'accessible' album in a long time, in my opinion, but it's good.

they've been making "their most 'accessible' album in a long time" for so long that i kinda wish they'd go back to being a little weird again tbh. but i love them, i'm still excited to hear this.

this is definitely a not-remotely-weird album. and i was disappointed at first. but it's a grower.

i like the big chorus & mikey's short guitar solo...verses might take a bit to grown on me, they feel kinda wordy & clunky somehow atm

new album streaming on itunes now fyi

'infallible' my favorite track right now -- something faintly 'tremor christ' about it, dunno if it's the bassline or just the beat or something, but it's hooked me!

my but aren't there a lot of pearl jam threads…I suppose this one will do, but if there is another one more suitable, my bad…

from the instant I heard them — opening for RHCP in 1991— I despised this band. Have never ever heard a song by them that did not make my skin crawl. Wrote a takedown of them in 1996 called "pearl Sham" which was, pre-innuhnet, the most controversial thing I ever scribbled.

Awful awful rhythm section. entire band is predicated on a rigorous, almost anti-pleasure foundation, as if rock and roll is serious business, no friviolity, like the Who if they never had a past as fun, hormonally-jacked up teenage hooligans …plus they looked really fucking stupid when they came out…

So this is just to say that while I think the band is dreadful, like many acts I don't like, I find them interesting. So when I turned on VH1 Classic and saw they were playing the cameron Crowe doc on the band (perhaps some reading these words has also been on the mega-Eagles thread where CC's annotations on each song have been reproduced)…I watched most of it. and what I might share from having watched it?

1. Eddie vedder seems kinda stupid. like, other acts I viscerally dislike that approach the altitude of iconic success seem to have a frontperson or a creative axis that appears to be bright. but he seems to be a dopey surfer who thinks he's smart…

2. did not address that they got rid of Dave abrrusezze cuz he was a happy rock drummer who could have found himself playing with Pretty Boy Floyd but hit the fuckin lottery, but had the gall to do an interview with Modern Drummer. How dare he!

3. again, the other guys seem to be nice, super-fuckin' lucky dudes…but yikes! mother love bone? was that andy wood guy any good? seems. from my limited understanding, to be a guy who had his eye on Trixter or Warrant and then got into Jane's addiction or some shit…

Pearl Jam are one of those bands that I used to love when I was 12-14 or so and now when I hear them I simply cannot believe I used to like them.

I'm what Christgau used to say about Elvis Costello: an admiring non-fan. So everything you said except for the part about the bleh rhythm section is wrong, veronica. Sorry.

and they've written at least a dozen songs that top the Eagles. Now HERE'S a band with good album tracks worth rediscovering.

definitely

now that is a gauntlet thrown down! I am truly interested as to which 12 songs by PJ that Herr Sotosyn, a contributor of some note on this forum, are better than the cream of the Henley frey and co.

please enlighten me as I think anyone who believes that is truly fucked and must also be a "PJ is vaguely tethered to some nebulous notion of indie rock/ seattle realness that is intrinsically better than post-Laurel canyon navel-gazing" dead-ender. both paradigms are smug and self-satisfied.

put 'em up! which 12 PJ are better than the bloody corpus of the eagles!

also: does Vedder not seem kinda dumb?

just as I was writing this, my wife is watching the Portlandia bit where carrie brownstein can't deal with the prospective boyfriend who has an eddie V. tattoo…

Carrie brownstein: a great great comic actress who was in a truly shitty rock band that inexplicably many people thought was the savior of music in the 90s, etc etc…

ok now we're getting crazy wrong, A DISSUHDENT IS HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

I don't care whether Vedder is dumb -- that's biographical info. He's a good singer, often the best part of his band.

Faithfull
Wishlist
Sometimes
Worldwide Suicide
Unemployable
Yellow Moon
In My Tree
Given to Fly
Dissident
In Hiding
Last Kiss
The Fixer

There's twelve.

from my tree of smug self-satisfaction

when albini prank called evan dando and eddie vedder, it was vedder who figured it out.

i love a few of those, but for the most part that list is a pretty bizarre highlight reel imo. soto taste is a wild unpredictable beast as ever.

I avoided the first-three-albums-are-awesome line.

hey i love No Code and Yield, i'd just never single out "Faithfull" or "Sometimes"

Sometimes might make my top 20. I love it.

Also Veronica I can't fight you with words but let's meet in the parking lot & sort this out :)

hang on you call eddie vedder dumb and yet you're proud of a feature you titled 'pearl Sham'? WE ARE THRU THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE

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how bout Mookie GAYlock

how about mother love BONE? wait, no. fuck. hmmm.

was that andy wood guy any good? seems. from my limited understanding, to be a guy who had his eye on Trixter or Warrant and then got into Jane's addiction or some shit…

iirc his idols were freddie mercury and david lee roth.

I personally don't have much time for MLB beyond Chloe Dancer/Crown Of Thorns tbh.

yeah, other than that they were basically trixter/warrant.

but like, talking about stardogs and shit.

Im quite disappointed with the new one

It's like the two most recent predecessors...a few great barnburners, maybe one good ballad, and totally disposable. I can't figure out if it's disappointing that they've settled into a comfort zone or if it's nice that they've earned the right to do that.

I prefer its predecessors but I've spun "Getaway" and "Sirens" a fuckton the last two weeks.

wtf at this sirens love

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/brainwash/siren.gif

oh who am i kidding sirens may well be great for people who's grown and evolved with pearl jam, i don't think i've heard a full-length since no code

"Sirens" sounded awful on first listen but has grown on me a lil in the context of both the album and hearing it on the radio. And I've mostly not thought much of downtempo tracks from their later albums.

^^^pretty much exactly how I felt/feel about it

sheesh! you guys aren't kidding! were a lot of you were in your early teens when they came out? that would explain a lot…

I suppose vedder is not a substandard singer, but his instincts as such are dreadful…and I would say that since his persona is being a guy with big thoughts and having noble motives as a public figure, that he seems dopey would be relevant.

the PJ doc is on VH1 classic now…Mother love bone part is on now, but this sounds like bog-standard late 80s alterna-metal…Wood looks and acts like the singer from Bulletboys…and Ament insists on playing fretless, and yet he never seems to figure out how to make it sound good…

oh no MLB are terrible

"Chloe Dancer" (or the first part of "Crown of Thorns" if you will) is pretty great, mostly just solo piano but yeah I can do without the hairmetal boogie though.

Green River are probably more notable than listenable, but their early recordings with Steve Turner on lead guitar are worth checking out if you've never heard them.

I love MLB

super glam, ridiculous lyrics, it's like a fun not taking ourselves serious version of The Cult who would have been way more fun if Astbury didnt act like She Sells Sanctuary is a ~meaningful song~

90% of the band was powered by the force of Wood's personality alone so if you don't like him or his steez then MLB collapses like Jenga. Like T. Rex. You have to buy in.

But anyway. This Is Shangrila! cmon.

hey Veronica what were the two deep cuts from The Long Run that you rode for?

I like everything on it a lot (cept for the last tune) but yeah I rilly rilly like what someone on ILM seven years ago called the dark heart of the Long Run, "king of hollywood" and "those shoes."

I like 'shoes" a lot.....didn't have the strength for the long run of that thread, tho....

If you have even the slightest inclination to see them on this tour, DO IT. Saw them last night in Oakland - no opener, they played for 3 and a half hours. 37 song setlist. Crazy good fun.