I've reached The Perfect Girl and this is a super album.
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:28 (seventeen years ago)
A1 The Kiss 6:14B3 The Snakepit 6:59C1 Just Like Heaven 3:30D3 A Thousand Hours 3:23
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:34 (seventeen years ago)
On side A, I vacillate between "The Kiss" and "Catch".On side B, it's "How Beautiful You Are..." and "The Snakepit".On side C, it is literally all of them. fucking hellOn side D, it's "The Perfect Girl", "Shiver and Shake" and "Fight".
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)
Like Dan this was my Cure gateway, but I gotta admit that the protracted introductions bore me now (Christgau: "Samey samey samey is the strategy--repeat repeat repeat repeat the same four-bar theme for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight, sixty-four bars"). I suppose I can defend them as proto-trance or something, but I won't bother, with the exception of "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep," whose Around the World in a Day version of Far Eastern music depends on samey samey samey.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:43 (seventeen years ago)
I think the builds of "The Kiss" and "The Snakepit" are flat-out genius, rivalled in their catalog only by "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey".
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:44 (seventeen years ago)
I still find absolutely charming their dilettantish approach to "world" music and different styles (fake French accordeons, fake sitars, sloppy funk work-outs etc).
― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:47 (seventeen years ago)
I still think the video to "Why Can't I Be U?" is one of the funniest things ever filmed.
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:48 (seventeen years ago)
This album is the sound of a band having fun in the studio.
― Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:49 (seventeen years ago)
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-cure-why-cant-i-be-you/1016802999/?icid=VIDLRV01
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
lol also why did I go all Prince for a second
with the help of red wine and heaps of drugs.
(xxpost)
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
ooooh boy we're gonna have words (when I've worked out just how many awesome Cure build you've snubbed)
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (seventeen years ago)
*builds
I'm more fond of "Open" as a, well, opener.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:59 (seventeen years ago)
Some of The Cure's great builds aren't at the start of the song, see for instance the build to the second chorus of "The Promise"
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:04 (seventeen years ago)
looking forward to watching LJ school Dan on the cure
― From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:21 (seventeen years ago)
So much wisdom will be revealed.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:22 (seventeen years ago)
Even something like "The Caterpillar" (which just came on) has a genuinely brilliant, in fact near-perfect build-up, introducing so many musical and emotional themes with busy percussion, playful piano leads and some dramatic off-kilter strings. It's not quite as spectacular as, say, "The Kiss" or "Pornography" or "Homesick" or whatever, but it further adds to the fact that Smith really knew how to write a motherfukken song, and REALLY knew how to make a song's sound work with its title and lyrical themes.
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
that should read "MERELY with busy percussion..."
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:27 (seventeen years ago)
The sounds and themes of a caterpillar.
― i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, but also themes of doubt, of excitement, of confusion, hesitancy, which all tie in with the song's allegorical romantic purpose. All of these themes are musically conveyed by that 30-second intro.
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:33 (seventeen years ago)
My brother does an amazing fucking impression of how Robert Smith acts in videos.
― i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:36 (seventeen years ago)
yeah dude for practical intents and purposes 30 seconds is not long enough for something to qualify as a build in a Cure song
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:41 (seventeen years ago)
and both "Faith" and "All Cats Are Grey" are better than "Homesick"
You can have "All Cats Are Grey" any day of the week, amazing song. Not so sure about "Faith" yet. *amends iTunes selection*
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:43 (seventeen years ago)
When that water-drop sound-effect comes in with the keyboards, it's like the saddest moment in music or something
...and even then, it isn't my favourite track on the album (that would be "The Drowning Man")
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:46 (seventeen years ago)
No, "All Cats Are Grey" owns that album IMO (altho the segues on the second half are among the greatest achievements in Western music)
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
whoa
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:49 (seventeen years ago)
It's definitely up there ALMOST alongside "The Drowning Man" for me, somewhere near "The Funeral Party" in a sort-of tie for second. The organ/piano call and response in the outro as well...oh man.
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
ENOUGH FAITH TALK, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT KMx3
I think the most underrated song on this album is "The Perfect Girl".
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:51 (seventeen years ago)
I REALLY liked "The Perfect Girl" on my Big Listen-Through just now
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:52 (seventeen years ago)
(fwiw, on listening just now, for the first time in a while, it's clear that ACAG is MILES ahead of TFP)
― Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:55 (seventeen years ago)
"A Letter to Elise" is an inferior version of "The Perfect Girl."
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:56 (seventeen years ago)
("The Funeral Party" is my dad's favorite Cure song!)
Also Alfred OTM.
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:58 (seventeen years ago)
I always felt that "A Letter to Elise" was an inferior version of "Catch"!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:30 (seventeen years ago)
It's kind of a cross between the two, isn't it.
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
"But I used to try to catch EliseShe was the closest thing to perfect to me."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:35 (seventeen years ago)
Like Cockatoos, no hesitation― From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten)
― From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten)
Ditto.
FYI - this is my favorite snow-shoveling album of all time, I habitually pull it out every time we get a snowstorm worthy of sidewalk clearing.
― zaxxon25, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:48 (seventeen years ago)
I listened to this album during dental work once. The dentist said I could put a CD on and I was like, "Hey I have one on me!" and it really wasn't the best selection for a soundtrack to teeth drilling.
― i'm shy (Abbott), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:56 (seventeen years ago)
hahahaha
― Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 20:58 (seventeen years ago)
I think I voted too quickly (for "Why Can't I Be You?") forgetting that I have inordinate love for "Catch."
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:12 (seventeen years ago)
xxp hahahhaha
Perfect Girl is the weakest song on the album. As a Cure-obsessed teen, my fave would have been 'Snakepit'. 'The Kiss' is a con tender too but I might have overplayed it. Maybe I should stand up for If Only Tonight, which doesnt get enough love on this thread.
Also OTM to whoever wrt 'All Cats are Grey'. The build-up but also the last coda is probably this band's finest achievement.
― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)
You guys are all right about this being an amazing album. What's even more impressive (and would make this poll even more impossible) is that the B-sides released during this era were also way up there with what made it on the album. I mean if "Breathe" was on KM3 it would get my vote. As it is, I'm torn between "If Only Tonight", "Like Cockatoos", "How Beautiful...", and "The Snakepit".
And yes "All Cats Are Grey" is godlike genius.
― LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 22:28 (seventeen years ago)
it really wasn't the best selection for a soundtrack to teeth drilling.
I shudder at the thought of hearing Pornography at the dentist's instead, though.
― Coffee Table LP's Never Breathe! (Bimble), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:06 (seventeen years ago)
You'll never watch Marathon Man the same way.
"It is a simple choice between pain and relief...and it doesn't matter if we all die."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 23:25 (seventeen years ago)
I always felt that "A Letter to Elise" was an inferior version of "Catch"!I always felt Catch was an inferior version of 'A letter to Elise'.
― Josh L, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:18 (seventeen years ago)
Wow, did I love The Cure. But I loathed this album when it came out and I still do. It seemed to me to sound like the little scraps of multicolored construction paper left over from the grand spectacle of "The Head On The Door." I always thought "The Perfect Girl" was excellent, though. But I am unreliable, I think "The Top" is highly entertaining and it gets no love at all.
― Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:54 (seventeen years ago)
Adding another vote to "Just Like Heaven's" landslide. Even with such a great song as "Catch" in the competition, this is no doubt really.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:55 (seventeen years ago)
Some of The Cure's great builds aren't at the start of the song, see for instance the build to the second chorus of "The Promise" searing guitar lead in Bloodflowers
Now we're talking!
― ilxor, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:57 (seventeen years ago)
This is one of my least favourite Cure albums btw. But like most double albums, it would have worked out great as a single one.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 February 2009 03:58 (seventeen years ago)
I listened to that bright orange 12" of b-sides more than the actual album. Also I really loved the cover art during this era of the Cure, aside from the music. My favorite of all their logos!
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:30 (six years ago)
Amazed I still have my vinyl copy of this after regrettably purging so many good quality records and CDs during my teen years.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:33 (six years ago)
It's my favorite Cure album. I think "A Japanese Dream" and "Breathe" should've been on it instead of "Shiver and Shake" and "A Thousand Hours", but it was an embarrassment of riches really.
― LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:48 (six years ago)
hi!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2020 03:28 (six years ago)
speaking of b-sides that should've replaced lesser album cuts, "a chain of flowers" is actually one of their best songs, full stop.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 10 May 2020 20:45 (six years ago)