Most definitely. I always love when this thread gets bumped.
I think sleeve's strobe light story is actually Teresa, the 2nd drummer's? From what I remember of OBCBYL, the dancer wasnt much of a talker and refused to shower, so it seems kind of contrary to her character...? Just a Just how I remember it; sorry for bein nitpicky.
Ums i remember you saying something about Flaming Lips bein classic rock frat dudes who stumbled into a cult audiencr; I def feel this is in sone ways even more true for the Surfers.. Except that they were total music nerd/performance artist freaks at the same time. EZ came up with a great term for fratboy/avid rock strain of pigfuck tho: 'bro-hemian'
― the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:07 (ten years ago) link
Anywats RPH is the only one of the 1st 4 LPs thst I havent spent much time with, and now I feel like,I really need ti rectify this, but I am p much a big fan. Also I dont hate Piouhgd...
― the gospel of meth (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link
piouhgd is tough. i don't hate it, but it's definitely the weakest of their indie albums, might even prefer IWS. for one thing, the production is horrendous, completely stripped of detail and intensity. worse, it sounds forced, like they're trying so hard to be all "hey, the butthole surfers, we're so wacky!" instead of just being themselves and doing it.
i made an edit while back, re-glued the jams arbitrarily broken into separate tracks (the 2 parts of "revolution", "blindman" + "ironman"). included just those two plus "hurdy gurdy man", "something", "P.S.Y." and "barking bogs". sounded pretty good to me, but still a low water mark.
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't Pioughd their fuck-off to Rough Trade? I seem to remember it being a contract-filler so they could get started with Capitol.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 11 July 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
Haha brohemian is perfect
The whole SST crew fits that too
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Haynes: Nixon was a good president.Coffey: Yeah, but he had a potty mouth.Haynes: LBJ had a potty mouth.Leary: He used to bark his orders to his aides from the toilet. I used to work for a guy like that at the lumber yard.
Coffey: Yeah, but he had a potty mouth.
Haynes: LBJ had a potty mouth.
Leary: He used to bark his orders to his aides from the toilet. I used to work for a guy like that at the lumber yard.
― Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Thursday, 11 July 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Is that from the forced exposure interview? I'd love to read that again...
― Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 11 July 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
starting off again halfway thru Locust Abortion Technician
got kind of exhausted yesterday!
this is good...i think i might slightly prefer Psychic Powerless but it's close...
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
it's from this, Jon: http://ngro_obsrvr.tripod.com/articles/pachuco.html
― Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Following a final EP for Touch and Go—1989's Widowermaker—the band left their longtime recording partners to sign with longtime supporter Terry Tolkin at Rough Trade Records who had also brought them to Touch and Go, for a reportedly generous one-album deal.[44]
the band signed with capitol the year after rough trade collapsed.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
didn't they fuck over corey rusk?
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
yes
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
"22 Going On 23" is pretty fuckin gross :/
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
nah backstory behind it is hilarious
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
(ie woman was a habitual caller to the radio show, made up different shit every night etc)
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
so the story was fake?
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
features a tape of actual radio call-in show (Dr. Harry Reubens' to be specific) in which a woman described being sexually assaulted - it's a terrifying listen, although as it turns out, the woman was a pathological liar who called the show every night - This Band Could Be Your Life
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
The guitar part at the end of "22 Going on 23" is pretty damn righteous ....
― grandavis, Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
They seem like actual bad ppl not just nerds acting toughl like big black or Jesus lizard. Like they would probably steal from you if let them stay at your place
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:14 PM (Yesterday)
this comment is a great testament to the quality of their art tbh. albini's ooh-I-said-a-dirty-word steez always struck me as more weirdly conservative in bent than these filth-bathers, who were pro-gay and pro-woman in their actions (frequently playing gay bars, one of the few early T&G mixed gender bands which was a very dude-ly label), if not their art, which to my mind was an exorcism of america's fecal id and not necessarily a reflection of their own point of view. yes, there's an openly savage nihilism running through their best work, and a v real scariness, but you could say the same about throbbing gristle or the birthday party or flag-era rollins or hunter s thompson or w/e. plus I was an unfortunate witness to the moment when the abyss dumped back on them - when teresa was assaulted by the crowd at the ritz in '89 - and in retrospect their backing away from the edge during the 90s makes perfect sense.
that said, what they did to T&G was unconscionable, and I coined the phrase "the buttholes are assholes" after a run-in w/ their organization circa '91. but the 80s underground is littered with great, great music made by ruthless assholes and/or prejudiced jerks, i.e. greg ginn, bad brains etc.
ps rembrandt pussyhorse rules
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
hate that song. would always skip it, still do. back in the day, i figured the caller for a voice-modulated band member or friend making a prank call, but that didn't make it seem any funnier to me. whether or not we believe the story, there's something seriously ugly about the joke, moreso than gibby's usual "touch me doctor" grotesquerie.
too weak for the butthole surfers i guess...
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
albini's ooh-I-said-a-dirty-word steez always struck me as more weirdly conservative in bent
otm
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
i was looking online earlier to remind myself of the details of the butthole surfers-touch and go falling out and this is a really balanced look at what happened: http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/touch-and-go-v-the-buttholes/Content?oid=898923
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
...I was an unfortunate witness to the moment when the abyss dumped back on them - when teresa was assaulted by the crowd at the ritz in '89 - and in retrospect their backing away from the edge during the 90s makes perfect sense.
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:08 PM (21 minutes ago)
jfc, never heard that story :(
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
Yeah wau!
― Thelema & Louise (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
I've never read anybody in the band talk about it, for pretty obvious reasons. that was the last show she played with them. she took an ill-advised leap into the pit, actually landed on me and knocked me to the floor. I don't want anybody's imagination running away with them, at the same time I don't really want to go into details. but it was ugly. not woodstock 99 korn ugly, but ugh why am I still even typing this
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
so uh change of subject - contenderizer is yr ilx hooked up to yr email?
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
listening to hairway to steven now
on the 2nd half of "Jimi"....dudes basically just talking over a Meat Puppets outtake at this point
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
"i saw an x-ray of a girl passing gas" is a really amazing song
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
always preferred the demo version of "jimi" from the texas trip comp... nb this may be a substance-related opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeJBl7xrwqE
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
hairway is kinda like the butthole's "up on the sun" i guess
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
iirc hairway was the first record they planned out and recorded in a studio instead of making it up as they went along at home. I like it fine but def something lost, it's more wacky hijinks than out of control crazy.
are you doing the EPs too? cream corn from the socket of davis is great (actually inseparable from rembrandt for me since my cassette had both), post-hairway widowermaker is pretty good too.
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
cream corn is the only thing that's not on spotify for some reason
just started widowmaker (it's thrown on the end of pioughed but i'm listening to things chronologically)
i guess grooveshark might have cream corn
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Cream Corn is on Spotify, just not labeled. Last 4 songs on Rembrandt. No idea why it's called "TP Parter" instead of "To Parter", though I think they'd appreciate it.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
haha ok well i already heard it then and it was good!
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
inseparable on spotify as on cassette world without end
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
xxp yeah hairway's songs had been written and honed while touring and then recorded quickly. on the previous albums the songs were mostly worked out as they recorded.
― sleepingsignal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
pioughed:
revolution pt. 2 - them chanting gary shandling over guitar soloing, etc you can definitely feel the self parody beginning
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
sounds like you moved on but this is essential hairway-era viewing
http://www.youtube.com?v=pVusQjMv114
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
er https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVusQjMv114
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
and yeah when they went from goofy badasses to just plain goofy is when the going gets tough
be sure to check out their career rarities comp humpty dumpty LSD, there are some truffles worth rooting from that trough
xp
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link
"lonesome bulldog" - if there is one thing in music i would erase from history it would be punk/underground/indie/alt rock bands' "funny" country songs. a pox on humanity.
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
here's another classic hairway-era track, don't think this ever got an official release?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3l-wS5thl8
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link
oh and this is one of my all time favorite buttholes tracks, it was on a giorno poetry systems comp from '87 or '88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiIQXzBTyfk
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
pioughed kinda sucks so far
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link
"hi, I'm gibby, and I play the soul of a dog trapped in the body of a man wrapped around the candy cane of reality"
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
you are in for a rough stretch of road dude
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link
maybe you should delay the inevitable by listening to the 89 double live alb, it's free to download from their site
http://www.buttholesurfers.com/DoubleLiveMP3.html
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
contenderizer is yr ilx hooked up to yr email?
― truth bomb lawyer mean mean pride (Edward III), Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:36 PM (4 hours ago)
well, it is hooked up to an e-mail account, but it's one i don't very often. will check in.
― twerking for obvious reasons (contenderizer), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
P.S.Y. is the only good song on pioughed IMO
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
on to Independent Worm Saloon
btw guys there's something on Spotify called "Humpty Dumpty LSD" but I can't tell what it is...album is dated 2005 but spotify is kinda weird w/dates
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link