To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

more decade defining rock brilliance:

Negura Bunget - Cunoasterea Tacuta

atmospheric avant progressive post-black metal from Romania

taken from the esteemed 2006 album: Negura Bunget - OM
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/negura_bunget/om/

The tragedy is that DJ Martian is posting brilliant, brilliant songs, but the fact they're on this thread will mean they get nothing but derision

"Christmas" is my favourite track on my favourite album of the decade

The tragedy is that DJ Martian is posting brilliant, brilliant songs, but the fact they're on this thread will mean they get nothing but derision

― country matters

*sob*

Well, the derision's kinda earned. This is more a thread to be discussing Linkin Park, Chikinki and maybe The Darkness on. A Dom thread.

They are brilliant tracks, but moving pretty far away from any sort of "canonical" look at the decade.

The brilliance is lost on me. Perhaps I am not a "rock fan".

And yeah, even taking this thread at all seriously, jon otm. Stevem, I think it's more that you're not an experimental black metal fan tbh

i don't know, man - that djmatian approved u-tube rawk is fine for what it is, while it's on, but instantly forgettable thereafter. at least Wolfmother have hooks.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Muse. What about Black Holes and Revelations? Definitely a very popular rock record and very much of this decade.

Also, Rush - Snakes and Arrows - where's the love, folks?

Oh shit, that reminds me

Frances the Mute - The Mars Volta

That was one universally beloved record!

lol @ the last 4 posts

I believe a Muse record kicked off this discussion, but it was Origin of Symmetry.

(I actually LOVE FtM but was kinda hoping TMV wouldn't make it onto this thread)

exactly jon, but I somehow think Moodles is operating to a plan on this thread

I'm not operating on any plan. Those two records would definitely be in my top 10 for rock records of the decade.
Rush may not get much love from anyone else, but I think the Muse suggestion is reasonable.

I'm kind of ignorant of Muse's earlier records, so I didn't realize that Origin was their's too.

if Depeche Mode turned in a experimental trip-rock band they might sound like this

thanks for ensuring I'll never listen to them!

some records that came out

2000:
relationship of command - at the drive-in
parachutes - coldplay
the white pony - deftones
the sickness - disturbed
veni, vedi, vicious - hives
hybrid theory - linkin park
mad season - matchbox 20
kid a - radiohead
1000 hurts - shellac
all hands on the bad one - sleater kinney

2001:
love and theft - bob dylan
vision creation newsun - boredoms
sinner - drowning pool
gorillaz - gorillaz
origin of symmetry - muse
silver side up - nickelback
rock steady - no doubt
come clean - puddle of mudd
oh, inverted world - shins
break the cycle - staind
is this it - strokes
toxicity - system of a down
lateralus - tool

2002:
source tags and codes - ...and you will know us by the trail of dead
i get wet - andrew WK
beaches and canyons - black dice
yoshimi battles the pink robots - flaming lips
oceanic - isis
neon golden - notwist
songs for the deaf - queens of the stone age
yankee hotel foxtrot - wilco

2003:
transatlanticism - death cab for cutie
a mark, a mission, a brand, a scar - dashboard confessional
kid rock - kid rock
hypermagic mountain - lightning bolt
de-loused in the comatorium - mars volta
sing sing death house - the distillers
the real new fall LP - the fall
elephant - white stripes
fever to tell - yeah yeah yeahs

2004:
sung tongs - animal collective
funeral - arcade fire
crimes - blood brothers
franz ferdinand - franz ferdinand
american idiot - green day
they were wrong, so we drowned - liars
leviathan - mastodon
vol. 3: the subliminal verses - slipknot
burned mind - wolf eyes

2005:
X&Y - coldplay
from under the cork tree - fall out boy
blessed black wings - high on fire
wonderful rainbow - lightning bolt
frances the mute - mars volta
gimme fiction - spoon
black one - sunn0)))
hypnotize - system of a down
standing in the way of control - the gossip
separation sunday - the hold steady

2006:
the warning - hot chip
blood mountain - mastodon
black holes and revelations - muse
the black parade - my chemical romance
pearl jam - pearl jam
10,000 days - tool
return to cookie mountain - tv on the radio

2007:
new wave - against me!
mirrored - battles
pink - boris
infinity on high - fall out boy
in rainbows - radiohead

2008:
saint dymphna - gang gang dance
vampire weekend - vampire weekend
oracular spectacular - MGMT
when the world comes down - all american rejects
pretty. odd - panic at the disco

2009:
merriweather post pavilion - animal collective

somewhere in there = a definement of sorts. plus why am i supposed to care who started this thread?

lol louis and DJ, yeah i could sit here and post shit off like the first blind shake record and all this other obscure shit i like but they are not going to be canonized.

lot of that stuff i listed isn't gonna be canonized, either, but i expect that pretty much all of it will be listened to and talked about and playlisted and soundtracked and passed on for a long, long time. defining the decade, defining "rock music" in some sense, defining whatever comes next. some of it canonized by people who do that for a living, most of it just listened to by people.

You've left out LCD Soundsystem, which has cheered me up a bit. Seems a fairly accurate reflection of consensus. Listened to MPP last night again, and despite the occasionally pleasant melody, I REALLY don't get why it's so beloved, beyond "it has a big sound and lots of spangly noises". Good opening track, but pretty dull when faced with its plaudits.

This thread was started as obvious trolling for challopry and general amusement; taking it seriously undermines the deliberately crass gaucheness of the question (i.e. clearly there isn't one canonical, agreed-upon album, especially a "rock" album, whatever that means, and to claim that there is one is in a word stupid). You've done slightly different and given a list of albums from all popular genres that you reckon would figure largely in end-of-decade thoughts.

Matt OTM, and I wasn't actually suggesting for a second that Ulver should be part of a general "canon". They make music for only the most inquisitive listeners to pursue at their leisure.

*something slightly different

i thought about LCD soundsystem, then retardedly left em off the list! no idea why. debut and SOS definitely should be on there. easy money canon fodder.

also, i'm a moran for leaving up the bracket and libertines s/t off the list. so transatlantic aphasias. teaches of peaches?

silver side up - nickelback
rock steady - no doubt
come clean - puddle of mudd

^^among these imo

rock steady - no doubt

^am v. happy with how much love this is receiving

i have to figure that funeral wd be the archetypal 00s album bcz the 00s is where i stopped giving a f*ck abt current music, and arcade fire actually played a pretty big part in that...

funeral - no one then knew that what they were mourning was Time Itself..

They make music for only the most inquisitive listeners to pursue at their leisure.

Do you even notice anymore when your semantics are contradictory?

other albums i've been wanting to check out:

wolf eyes - burned mind
shellac - 10000 hurts
sunno))) - black one
comets on fire - blue cathedral
ulver - blood inside (thx lj!)
avey tare and panda bear - spirit theyre gione spirit theyve vanished
melt banana - cell scape

also:

the clientele - strange geometery

xpost

i think he meant they make music for columbo

teaches of peaches?

my pretend girlfriend's favourite album (don't ask)

xp lol (ahh columbo)

blue cathedral is cool, not mind-blowing or anything
burned mind is totally awesome but only when you're in the mood
cell-scape is flat-out brilliance

and black one is like burned mind but even more mood-specific, can be a right old slog if you're not in full-on zombie-zen patience mode

the first comets on fire, field recordings on the sun, it way more mind-blowing but i like blue cathedral more as the middle ground between total freakout and becoming sort of more like the Dead.

yeah, what i've heard of "field recordings from the sun" is way more freaked-out than blue cathedral, which is more "classic rock" if anything, albeit with some mighty noised-out moments, especially towards the end of the album ("blue tomb" is really, REALLY nice)

10000 hurts and blood inside are both great.

i am 100% ignorant when it comes to comets on fire, prob should fix that, although the whole turning into the dead thing makes me squeamish.

i like sunn o))) in concept but never actually enjoy them in reality.

^^^^sorta this, although Black One really clicks in specific circumstances.

I wasn't gonna further comment on Blood Inside because I've already done enough of that tbh. Would like to hear the Shellac record.

its genius and is really the only shellac record that kind of scrapes at the big black catologue in terms of awesomeness. (note: have not heard italian greyhoud. anyone know if the vinyl has the same "accessory" as 100 hurts?)

left a zero out to make up for the extra one i already used.

this might be my noms for outerspacial timecapsular "00 teh canon", ranked:

1) standing in the way of control - the gossip (2005)
2) elephant - the white stripes (2003)
3) rock steady - no doubt (2001)
4) all hands on the bad one - sleater kinney (2000)
5) kid a - radiohead (2000)
6) songs for the deaf - queens of the stone age (2002)
7) LCD soundsystem - LCD soundsystem (2004)
8) is this it - strokes (2001)
9) franz ferdinand - franz ferdinand (2004)
10) gimme fiction - spoon (2005)

not my favorite rock records of decade by any means, but some split between my tastes and what seems retrospectively "important" / likely to be widely remembered & loved. nothing after 2005, which is funny: no contemp indie beardo shit. no wolf parade or fleet foxes or shins or arcade fire or whatever. probly just a reflection of waht DAM said (my finally disconnecting from the pop rock mainstream somewhere around the 06).

plus, drugs, you should totally get into those wolf eyes (burned mind, dread, dead hills), shellacs (1000 hurts = GR*!), sunns (black one is the only real necessary). and cell-scape yah! on the fence, re: the blood inside.

JJ-

yep italian greyhound comes with a loose CD, the vinyl packaging is quite simple to die for, as per usual.

my personal ranking of shellac records:

1) Terraform
2) At Action Park
3) 1000 Hurts
4) Excellent Italian Greyhound

NOTE: whisper thin margin between the first three...much larger separation between the 3rd and 4th

Greyhound is "okay"...has a handful of super classic Shellac jams, esp End of Radio...some of the filler feels really slight. too much Bob singing.

is this thread too nood without mention of pink, avril, k clarkson, etc?

i guess i consider those artists pop music that uses some rock sonic signifiers rather than actual rock music.

me too, but i'm not sure that "i consider" is the most significant issue here. do a lot of other ppl think of them as rock artists? in 10 or 20 years time will they seem to represent "rock in the new millennium"?

[this might be my noms for outerspacial timecapsular "00 teh canon", ranked:

1) standing in the way of control - the gossip (2005)

do you live in not America?

i guess i consider those artists pop music that uses some rock sonic signifiers rather than actual rock music.

― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:37 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me too, but i'm not sure that "i consider" is the most significant issue here. do a lot of other ppl think of them as rock artists? in 10 or 20 years time will they seem to represent "rock in the new millennium"?

― contenderizer, Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:41 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this made me think about shit

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in the 70s or 80s was there shit we would now consider rock no question but at the time folks was like "id consider this pop that uses rock signifiers" or whatev

"rock signifiers" only came into being when pop when all robot beats and keyborads. they were still using live guitars and keybs until the mid-80s