To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

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masterful use of commas

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I have one Cave In record and it is very not good. I think I might have bought the wrong one though.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Cavein - Jupiter - is the masterpiece

http://www.cavein.net/disc/hh66652.htm

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Always get Cave In, Capdown and Kapowski confused.

Coyote Ultra Nate (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

not one Chinese Democracy nod...

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

at the drive in?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

What about Chikinki? xxp

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol I remember Chikinki

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

Thanks!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I was going to say Hybrid Theory myself upthread, but was worried I'd be ostracised. If we really are taking this seriously, how about Back to Black?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

re: you listen to the wrong type of rock

that statement was a response to:

If this is honestly what people think, then why did any of you bother listening to any rock since 2000?

― billstevejim

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Word. Isis and Cave-In are awesome, (I haven't heard the rest of your list), but I doubt they're contenders for the canonical rock album of the decade.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

good call on linkin park, whoever. plus also the big obvious overlooked, decade framing, present-anticipating rock steady, courtesy of yr no doubt

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

forgot that one yesterday, but seems super obv in retrospect

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

reminder of what ilm voted the best albums of the first half of this decade
http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

and thank you dj martian for posting approved listening list. i'm glad people still do that

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

try: Ephel Duath, Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Miriodor, Supersilent, Scott Walker, Ulver, Cave In, Dark Tranquillity, Earthtone 9, Neurosis

No I don't.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lol two of my favourite bands are in that DJ Martian list

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

lot of stuff on mid-point ILX hot list that still might be worth considering: shellac 10000 hurts, real new fall, gallowsbird bark, le tigre, fever to tell, VCN, etc. most unlikely to emerge as among THEE albums, except maybe that yeah yeah yeahs thing, i dunno

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"Kid A" isn't a rock album, thus, I don't understand its mention here.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol two of my favourite bands are in that DJ Martian list

Which ones, country matters?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i think we have to wait until the lil wayne rock album drops before we decide this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

kid A: tops rym decade list, ilm mid 00s and ondarock

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Boringly, Neurosis and Ulver

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

a good time to covert more followers to the mighty Ulver

http://www.myspace.com/ulver1
track: Christmas [from Ulver: Blood Inside]

if Depeche Mode turned in a experimental trip-rock band they might sound like this

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yer all high. the answer is somethin' by the RHCP (ick!).

Ioannis, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

rock music in the 00s doesn't get better than this:

the atmospheric brilliance of:

Agalloch - Not Unlike the Waves

from the esteemed 2006 album: Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/agalloch/ashes_against_the_grain/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

goths keep swingin'

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

more decade defining rock brilliance:

Negura Bunget - Cunoasterea Tacuta

atmospheric avant progressive post-black metal from Romania

taken from the esteemed 2006 album: Negura Bunget - OM
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/negura_bunget/om/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The tragedy is that DJ Martian is posting brilliant, brilliant songs, but the fact they're on this thread will mean they get nothing but derision

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"Christmas" is my favourite track on my favourite album of the decade

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

The tragedy is that DJ Martian is posting brilliant, brilliant songs, but the fact they're on this thread will mean they get nothing but derision

― country matters

*sob*

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, the derision's kinda earned. This is more a thread to be discussing Linkin Park, Chikinki and maybe The Darkness on. A Dom thread.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

They are brilliant tracks, but moving pretty far away from any sort of "canonical" look at the decade.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The brilliance is lost on me. Perhaps I am not a "rock fan".

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Ioannis, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

And yeah, even taking this thread at all seriously, jon otm. Stevem, I think it's more that you're not an experimental black metal fan tbh

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know, man - that djmatian approved u-tube rawk is fine for what it is, while it's on, but instantly forgettable thereafter. at least Wolfmother have hooks.

Ioannis, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Muse. What about Black Holes and Revelations? Definitely a very popular rock record and very much of this decade.

Also, Rush - Snakes and Arrows - where's the love, folks?

Moodles, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh shit, that reminds me

Frances the Mute - The Mars Volta

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

That was one universally beloved record!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ the last 4 posts

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I believe a Muse record kicked off this discussion, but it was Origin of Symmetry.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

(I actually LOVE FtM but was kinda hoping TMV wouldn't make it onto this thread)

exactly jon, but I somehow think Moodles is operating to a plan on this thread

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not operating on any plan. Those two records would definitely be in my top 10 for rock records of the decade.
Rush may not get much love from anyone else, but I think the Muse suggestion is reasonable.

I'm kind of ignorant of Muse's earlier records, so I didn't realize that Origin was their's too.

Moodles, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

if Depeche Mode turned in a experimental trip-rock band they might sound like this

thanks for ensuring I'll never listen to them!

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

some records that came out

2000:
relationship of command - at the drive-in
parachutes - coldplay
the white pony - deftones
the sickness - disturbed
veni, vedi, vicious - hives
hybrid theory - linkin park
mad season - matchbox 20
kid a - radiohead
1000 hurts - shellac
all hands on the bad one - sleater kinney

2001:
love and theft - bob dylan
vision creation newsun - boredoms
sinner - drowning pool
gorillaz - gorillaz
origin of symmetry - muse
silver side up - nickelback
rock steady - no doubt
come clean - puddle of mudd
oh, inverted world - shins
break the cycle - staind
is this it - strokes
toxicity - system of a down
lateralus - tool

2002:
source tags and codes - ...and you will know us by the trail of dead
i get wet - andrew WK
beaches and canyons - black dice
yoshimi battles the pink robots - flaming lips
oceanic - isis
neon golden - notwist
songs for the deaf - queens of the stone age
yankee hotel foxtrot - wilco

2003:
transatlanticism - death cab for cutie
a mark, a mission, a brand, a scar - dashboard confessional
kid rock - kid rock
hypermagic mountain - lightning bolt
de-loused in the comatorium - mars volta
sing sing death house - the distillers
the real new fall LP - the fall
elephant - white stripes
fever to tell - yeah yeah yeahs

2004:
sung tongs - animal collective
funeral - arcade fire
crimes - blood brothers
franz ferdinand - franz ferdinand
american idiot - green day
they were wrong, so we drowned - liars
leviathan - mastodon
vol. 3: the subliminal verses - slipknot
burned mind - wolf eyes

2005:
X&Y - coldplay
from under the cork tree - fall out boy
blessed black wings - high on fire
wonderful rainbow - lightning bolt
frances the mute - mars volta
gimme fiction - spoon
black one - sunn0)))
hypnotize - system of a down
standing in the way of control - the gossip
separation sunday - the hold steady

2006:
the warning - hot chip
blood mountain - mastodon
black holes and revelations - muse
the black parade - my chemical romance
pearl jam - pearl jam
10,000 days - tool
return to cookie mountain - tv on the radio

2007:
new wave - against me!
mirrored - battles
pink - boris
infinity on high - fall out boy
in rainbows - radiohead

2008:
saint dymphna - gang gang dance
vampire weekend - vampire weekend
oracular spectacular - MGMT
when the world comes down - all american rejects
pretty. odd - panic at the disco

2009:
merriweather post pavilion - animal collective

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

somewhere in there = a definement of sorts. plus why am i supposed to care who started this thread?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol louis and DJ, yeah i could sit here and post shit off like the first blind shake record and all this other obscure shit i like but they are not going to be canonized.

Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

lot of that stuff i listed isn't gonna be canonized, either, but i expect that pretty much all of it will be listened to and talked about and playlisted and soundtracked and passed on for a long, long time. defining the decade, defining "rock music" in some sense, defining whatever comes next. some of it canonized by people who do that for a living, most of it just listened to by people.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link


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