To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

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Return to Sucky Mountain?

Yankee Hotel Sucktrot?

Fuck all of you.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this decade more than ever the gulf between the established music media [print, radio, tv] and what is going outside the mainstream has grown wider.

Just look at the crap that has been mentioned on this thread, The Hives [retro bucket wrenching crap], Queens of the Stone Age [one trick pony riff merchants], Foo Fighters [making the same radio friendly album over and over again], The Strokes [simpleton music for college kids], White Stripes [rather limited and one dimensional], The Darkness [comedy rock], the Shins [tedious indie rock drivel], The Hold Steady [trad rock tripe that needs a good critical bashing]

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

All the bands you just mentioned are good except for The Hold Steady.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Queens of the Stone Age [one trick pony riff merchants]

This one is just rong rong rong.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the Shins [tedious indie rock drivel]

Goddamnit Chutes Too Narrow is not tedious or drivel.. If this is honestly what people think, then why did any of you bother listening to any rock since 2000?

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the best straight-up rock album since 2000 is Gimme Fiction, but I'm not sure if I count as a "rock fan.."

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anybody wanna give me an OTM on Linkin Park? I think I fucking nailed it!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

try: Ephel Duath, Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Miriodor, Supersilent, Scott Walker, Ulver, Cave In, Dark Tranquillity, Earthtone 9, Neurosis

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yay!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Thread delivers

Coyote Ultra Nate (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Cave In, Dark Tranquillity

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

masterful use of commas

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I have one Cave In record and it is very not good. I think I might have bought the wrong one though.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Cavein - Jupiter - is the masterpiece

http://www.cavein.net/disc/hh66652.htm

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Always get Cave In, Capdown and Kapowski confused.

Coyote Ultra Nate (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

not one Chinese Democracy nod...

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

at the drive in?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

What about Chikinki? xxp

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol I remember Chikinki

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

Thanks!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I was going to say Hybrid Theory myself upthread, but was worried I'd be ostracised. If we really are taking this seriously, how about Back to Black?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

re: you listen to the wrong type of rock

that statement was a response to:

If this is honestly what people think, then why did any of you bother listening to any rock since 2000?

― billstevejim

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Word. Isis and Cave-In are awesome, (I haven't heard the rest of your list), but I doubt they're contenders for the canonical rock album of the decade.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

good call on linkin park, whoever. plus also the big obvious overlooked, decade framing, present-anticipating rock steady, courtesy of yr no doubt

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

forgot that one yesterday, but seems super obv in retrospect

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

reminder of what ilm voted the best albums of the first half of this decade
http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

and thank you dj martian for posting approved listening list. i'm glad people still do that

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

try: Ephel Duath, Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Miriodor, Supersilent, Scott Walker, Ulver, Cave In, Dark Tranquillity, Earthtone 9, Neurosis

No I don't.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lol two of my favourite bands are in that DJ Martian list

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

lot of stuff on mid-point ILX hot list that still might be worth considering: shellac 10000 hurts, real new fall, gallowsbird bark, le tigre, fever to tell, VCN, etc. most unlikely to emerge as among THEE albums, except maybe that yeah yeah yeahs thing, i dunno

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"Kid A" isn't a rock album, thus, I don't understand its mention here.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol two of my favourite bands are in that DJ Martian list

Which ones, country matters?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i think we have to wait until the lil wayne rock album drops before we decide this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

kid A: tops rym decade list, ilm mid 00s and ondarock

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Boringly, Neurosis and Ulver

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

a good time to covert more followers to the mighty Ulver

http://www.myspace.com/ulver1
track: Christmas [from Ulver: Blood Inside]

if Depeche Mode turned in a experimental trip-rock band they might sound like this

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yer all high. the answer is somethin' by the RHCP (ick!).

Ioannis, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

rock music in the 00s doesn't get better than this:

the atmospheric brilliance of:

Agalloch - Not Unlike the Waves

from the esteemed 2006 album: Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/agalloch/ashes_against_the_grain/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

goths keep swingin'

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

more decade defining rock brilliance:

Negura Bunget - Cunoasterea Tacuta

atmospheric avant progressive post-black metal from Romania

taken from the esteemed 2006 album: Negura Bunget - OM
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/negura_bunget/om/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The tragedy is that DJ Martian is posting brilliant, brilliant songs, but the fact they're on this thread will mean they get nothing but derision

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"Christmas" is my favourite track on my favourite album of the decade

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

The tragedy is that DJ Martian is posting brilliant, brilliant songs, but the fact they're on this thread will mean they get nothing but derision

― country matters

*sob*

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, the derision's kinda earned. This is more a thread to be discussing Linkin Park, Chikinki and maybe The Darkness on. A Dom thread.

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

They are brilliant tracks, but moving pretty far away from any sort of "canonical" look at the decade.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The brilliance is lost on me. Perhaps I am not a "rock fan".

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Ioannis, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

And yeah, even taking this thread at all seriously, jon otm. Stevem, I think it's more that you're not an experimental black metal fan tbh

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know, man - that djmatian approved u-tube rawk is fine for what it is, while it's on, but instantly forgettable thereafter. at least Wolfmother have hooks.

Ioannis, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Muse. What about Black Holes and Revelations? Definitely a very popular rock record and very much of this decade.

Also, Rush - Snakes and Arrows - where's the love, folks?

Moodles, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link


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