Ooh Ooh Ooh, Complete CLASH POLL (that's a laugh) - ILX Artist Poll #41 (?) - Voting Ends July 9th at Midnight (EST)

I'll be doing it in the morning, promise

I'm a big believer in the Clash mythology, but I don't think Bobby Fuller is quaint. (Sorry if that's just semantic nitpicking.)

I'm slightly bummed that I'm going to be out of town for a week and will be following the rollout in snatched moments during my Chicago trip.

dude I'm still bummed that I can't even do a ballot due to travelling, let alone follow any of the rollout

disco poll is going to be worse though

Bobby Fuller isn't quaint, per se. But the Clash version takes that song and pretty much owns it.

This is practically (for obvious reasons) Buddy Holly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ

Of course, Buddy Holly is one of the few acts I may love more than the Clash. Quaint ain't the same thing as bad!

Gukbe, are you sending confirmation mails?

― g simmel, Monday, July 8, 2013 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I was but I've been slacking. i'll get on it.

btw I'm not sure when the rollout will commence. I put the deadline on a Tuesday night because of the holidays, but I loathe stopping a rollout on a weekend. I guess it'll come down to how fast I can tabulate the results, which I won't be able to get to until Wednesday afternoon (US Time).

They pretty much OWN "Police on My Back" as well!

Sent!

notable that when the Mescaleroes started, Joe was playing a huge amount of Clash songs and solo material in their sets -- but within a couple of years, he'd quietly dropped all Strummer/Jones originals and was only playing Mescaleroes stuff and covers that the Clash had done

I want to say when I saw Strummer tour in I think 2001, he really only played a couple, like "London Calling" and "White Man in Hammersmith," Then at the end, he had the audience vote which one they wanted to hear a second time.

so glad I have until tomorrow, I have a bunch of songs but no real order yet

They own all their covers in a way, but the Equals' "Police on My Back" is a thing of unsurpassed beauty.

JiC - the show I saw had four encores and ended up with him doing a 1989 solo b-side acapella because they'd ran out of songs the band knew. But that was January 2000 and the band only existed from 1999-2002!

<3 Bobby Fuller's drummer, hunched over on the bottom bunk. He does the pop pop pop pop pop pop as well.

Guys, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxcYa_6_HM8

It's a lot of things, quaint it aint!

Voted. No sensible way to separate anything after about no.15 tbh. Normally that means the band have run out of gas - but not The Clash, they have so much good stuff.

Any failure by this poll to place Rudie Can't Fail in the top 10 will erode my faith in humanity.

Need someone for a savior?

First I'll have to cure my temper.

voted!

Any failure by this poll to place Rudie Can't Fail in the top 10 will erode my faith in humanity.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 July 2013

cf Death or Glory imo. expect it'll tank in this poll due to antirockist bias but to my ear it's nothing short of a complete musical and spiritual triumph and kinda encapsulates everything i love about the band. it rocks, it rags, it rages and it's wise enough not to exclude itself from criticism. catalogs tyrannies of class and commerce on its way to a long hard look in the mirror at the subtle tyranny of narrative and the personal cost of punk mythmaking.

man... the bridge alone is better than a lot of bands ever get. gonna raise trouble, gonna raise hell, gonna fight you brother, gonna fight til you lose.

I really want to poll Overpowered By Funk vs The Crunge

I really want I'm Not Down to be the big sleeper LC hit, but fear it'll be getting overlooked instead

xpost i'm on a roll here hell just the intro even i mean come on. like muscles rippling under a tiger's skin, set to explode at any moment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwzMuuGOsVI

can't hear that second verse anymore without thinking of c0bian tbqh

I think the idea is to not give away too much of what we voted for til the results start rolling out, but I will say that I had 11 LC tracks on my ballot.

Me too! Pretty certain that comfortably outscores any other album in any of my previous ballots.

though Sandinista! did pretty well too

I really tried to rein in the LC love too, but I know I was lying to myself. I also tried to excise some of their singles, 'til I realised that was just being stupid.

I tried to not let Sandinista dominate my ballot

My album breakdown (at least as I define "album")

The Clash (US): 6
Rope: 3
Black Market: 2
London: 9
Sandinista: 4
Combat: 4
Crap: 1
Non-album: 1

This ballot was surprisingly easy for me because I had 20-some tracks that were just absolutely going to be on there, no question. So I only really had to make hard calls about 7 or 8 (out of 40-plus more that were serious contenders).

Yeah, I'm not even sure I could hazard a stab at this.

Hazard it!

Deadline is today? No way.

You're kidding me Josh, you've got to do this. You're only like 3% of the electorate at this point anyway.

Well you really have until tomorrow afternoon.

You don't have to think about it too hard. The Clash is a feeling, man.

I feel like voting for everything except two or three tracks.

Oh, I can do it later, I guess.

I left "Train in Vain" off and feel no regrets.

I'll go to bat for Death Or Glory. I'm a sucker for anthems. It's their Born To Run for me.

On that note, I think they played the song all of maybe 5 times? How did that happen? It was pretty great each time, too. It seems like a bizarre setlist omission to me, to not play Death Or Glory and let Paul Simonon stagger through increasingly painful versions of Guns Of Brixton.

Well, it's *his* song, innit?

Then again, Topper never sang his one, did he? (Ivan/GI Joe)

Also, I wanna put Three Card Trick on my top 30, based on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1gWBPRXGJ0

Don't think I can though because the studio version isn't even in the same ballpark. To this day I'm amazed at Cut The Crap. I like most of the songs better than Combat Rock, but then they just systematically ruined everything in ways I didn't even think were possible. Guitar tone ruined, solid drummer replaced with drum machine, 1985 keyboards all over the place. Great songs deleted and replaced with last-minute songs that barely qualify as music. Pitch-shifted vocals for no reason. How does Jericho and In The Pouring Rain not make that album and Play To Win does? It boggles the mind.

Topper sings "Ivan Meets GI Joe" on that Amsterdam 81 show I was raving about upthread. It's a really strong performance actually.

Probably because they couldn't't be made to fit the blueprint..

I do have a Clash2 boot it's pretty great

xpost wtyg

I got given redund notice at one place of work, and accidentally on my last 2 days I got given unfettered internet, like really fast broadband when I find't have it at home. I downloaded tons from The Clash Zone, fully expecting that it would't be there long (I was right, it's long gone now)

I've got my good speakers on tonight and hearing unexpected really low vocal parts on I'm Not Down and Guns Of Brixton, almost like growls and barks. They're new to me anyway. With that and the weird mixing that brings out all these hidden hooks (as noted upthread), LC's production is impeccable.

A friend of mine saw Clash2, and had seen Clash1 w/ Chimes in '82. He said both shows were equally great, and even gave a slight edge to Clash2 (for the drumming). When he heard CtC he was profoundly baffled and disappointed; nothing in the Clash2 show indicated a new album would be anything but great.