Pearl Jam - C or D?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK1njeQdAVk

At just after 1:00, is that a snippet of something new? It may not be, but it doesn't immediately sound familiar either.

pumped that there's a Baltimore date, hopefully I'll get to see it.

started making playlists of fav songs from each drummer/era, goddamn i love these Jack Irons songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhODYyZVL6Y

spin spin spin the black circle

It's so cute when they write punk tunes

Production's got a dispiriting digital sheen to it, moreso than usual?

Backspacer was produced extremely "clear" too.

True, but things like the many Vedder vocal overdubs and too-clean starts and stops feel like another step further.

Eew. I like this song, and I'm sure I'll like many of the other songs on the album, but it's an album called Lightning Bolt and its cover looks like clipart.

Really? Lightning Bolt?

http://cdn.antiquiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/lb_cover.jpg

super meh

Sounds a little like Clutch w out the fury. I like it, good hook.

like the song quite a bit. art is whatever, but its better than the avocado one and the more i think about it, they really haven't had a decent cover since Vitalogy and even the ones before that sucked

I like the song when it shifts away from the Spin the Black circle style -- it's growing on me

And I like the mostly red/black version of the album cover, rather than the white one which looks odd to me.
But with the red background, from slightly further away, it looks like a cyclops robot!

pretty big fan of the no code polaroids

Vitalogy, No Code and Binaural are all faves, art-wise. The rest range from "eh" to "God, No!"

otm. no code artwork/packaging was kinda legendary to me as a teenager.

The cassette version of No Code was released in 8 or 9 different versions. I had the one with the bloodshot eyeball.

The ultra bleak/dour Riot Act cover suits the contents.

That cover is awful. For fuck's sake.

nov 26 Oracle Arena, Oakland - reserved fanclub tickets purchased :D :D

I have been whining for soooooooooo long about when am I going to get a real concert when are they going to tour when when when and now I am v happy

albums are nice but the live show is where it's at for me with these guys

Did anyone else call them "Pearl Cream" when they first came out? Oh that was just me and my gang? Ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaD_fvehAaU

I am beyond pissed that they're doing Pittsburgh but not Cleveland.

more like hurl spam

^such a joy

Loving all the grunge discussion on ILM these days, both here and in the Soundgarden album poll-threads. Tuning in for a proper revival.

Plus, finally got around to check out the O'Brien-remix of "Ten". Packs a good punch.

Wow, didn't go last night, but I guess the Pearl Jam show - like Pitchfork and Phish - got screwed up by the thunderstorms. The band played 7 songs, then Wrigley Field was evacuated. But PJ tweeted that it planned to play a full set, and indeed went on at midnight for another two hours. Show ended at 2am, 32-songs and three hours past curfew.

Haha awesome.

I looked at their London setlist from the other night, it was so close to my ideal PJ set. Really hope I get to see the Baltimore show on this tour.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/07/live-review-pearl-jam-at-chicagos-wrigley-field-719/

some dude, my blood ran cold until i realised the pj show was in london ontario and not london england.

lol sorry, the PJ twitter was just listing off the setlist with #PJLondon so it didn't even occur to me which London it might be

New track from Lightning Bolt, "Sirens"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXP6TDtW0w

Ok, I unabashedly love "Sirens" and it has me really excited for the album. I mean, I know it's Pearl Jam ballad by numbers, but it's the best one they've pulled off in a long time.

it gets good by the end but the beginning is pretty corny. will prob need to appreciate in the context of the album. kinda love "Mind Your Manners" now, though.

first few times i listened to sirens i thought it was crazy corny, but after playing it a bunch of times i gave in and love it now. the album has a number of moments like that - it's their most 'accessible' album in a long time, in my opinion, but it's good.

they've been making "their most 'accessible' album in a long time" for so long that i kinda wish they'd go back to being a little weird again tbh. but i love them, i'm still excited to hear this.

this is definitely a not-remotely-weird album. and i was disappointed at first. but it's a grower.

i like the big chorus & mikey's short guitar solo...verses might take a bit to grown on me, they feel kinda wordy & clunky somehow atm

new album streaming on itunes now fyi

'infallible' my favorite track right now -- something faintly 'tremor christ' about it, dunno if it's the bassline or just the beat or something, but it's hooked me!

my but aren't there a lot of pearl jam threads…I suppose this one will do, but if there is another one more suitable, my bad…

from the instant I heard them — opening for RHCP in 1991— I despised this band. Have never ever heard a song by them that did not make my skin crawl. Wrote a takedown of them in 1996 called "pearl Sham" which was, pre-innuhnet, the most controversial thing I ever scribbled.

Awful awful rhythm section. entire band is predicated on a rigorous, almost anti-pleasure foundation, as if rock and roll is serious business, no friviolity, like the Who if they never had a past as fun, hormonally-jacked up teenage hooligans …plus they looked really fucking stupid when they came out…

So this is just to say that while I think the band is dreadful, like many acts I don't like, I find them interesting. So when I turned on VH1 Classic and saw they were playing the cameron Crowe doc on the band (perhaps some reading these words has also been on the mega-Eagles thread where CC's annotations on each song have been reproduced)…I watched most of it. and what I might share from having watched it?

1. Eddie vedder seems kinda stupid. like, other acts I viscerally dislike that approach the altitude of iconic success seem to have a frontperson or a creative axis that appears to be bright. but he seems to be a dopey surfer who thinks he's smart…

2. did not address that they got rid of Dave abrrusezze cuz he was a happy rock drummer who could have found himself playing with Pretty Boy Floyd but hit the fuckin lottery, but had the gall to do an interview with Modern Drummer. How dare he!

3. again, the other guys seem to be nice, super-fuckin' lucky dudes…but yikes! mother love bone? was that andy wood guy any good? seems. from my limited understanding, to be a guy who had his eye on Trixter or Warrant and then got into Jane's addiction or some shit…

Pearl Jam are one of those bands that I used to love when I was 12-14 or so and now when I hear them I simply cannot believe I used to like them.

I'm what Christgau used to say about Elvis Costello: an admiring non-fan. So everything you said except for the part about the bleh rhythm section is wrong, veronica. Sorry.

and they've written at least a dozen songs that top the Eagles. Now HERE'S a band with good album tracks worth rediscovering.

definitely

now that is a gauntlet thrown down! I am truly interested as to which 12 songs by PJ that Herr Sotosyn, a contributor of some note on this forum, are better than the cream of the Henley frey and co.

please enlighten me as I think anyone who believes that is truly fucked and must also be a "PJ is vaguely tethered to some nebulous notion of indie rock/ seattle realness that is intrinsically better than post-Laurel canyon navel-gazing" dead-ender. both paradigms are smug and self-satisfied.

put 'em up! which 12 PJ are better than the bloody corpus of the eagles!

also: does Vedder not seem kinda dumb?

just as I was writing this, my wife is watching the Portlandia bit where carrie brownstein can't deal with the prospective boyfriend who has an eddie V. tattoo…

Carrie brownstein: a great great comic actress who was in a truly shitty rock band that inexplicably many people thought was the savior of music in the 90s, etc etc…

ok now we're getting crazy wrong, A DISSUHDENT IS HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

I don't care whether Vedder is dumb -- that's biographical info. He's a good singer, often the best part of his band.

Faithfull
Wishlist
Sometimes
Worldwide Suicide
Unemployable
Yellow Moon
In My Tree
Given to Fly
Dissident
In Hiding
Last Kiss
The Fixer

There's twelve.

from my tree of smug self-satisfaction

when albini prank called evan dando and eddie vedder, it was vedder who figured it out.

i love a few of those, but for the most part that list is a pretty bizarre highlight reel imo. soto taste is a wild unpredictable beast as ever.

I avoided the first-three-albums-are-awesome line.