Not if you're the Clash! Or me!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)
I'm such a tuning loser.
If the US Festival show is any indication, Joe's yapping gave Mick plenty of time to retune.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)
Sent!
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:15 (twelve years ago)
It's hard to tell if something is in an open tuning (especially E) until you hear the harmonics. Then the lightbulb goes off.
Like, I had no idea until a couple years ago that a bunch of Keef's Stones riffs were in open tunings, largely G, because I'd never really tried to learn them with any real sense of purpose. I just figured he had a knack for complex chords. Then I saw a thing on youtube about Stones riffs and it all made sense.
I bet there's a lot of BAD/BADII/Big Audio stuff that Mick plays that's in open tunings. The opening chords of "The Bottom Line" just don't sound like they're played in standard tuning.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:22 (twelve years ago)
Opening tuning, G, E ... how can you guys tell?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:24 (twelve years ago)
oh! nm
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:29 (twelve years ago)
Ha, the easiest way to tell is when you try to play something and you can't figure it out, or it sounds wrong, and then someone tells you it's in an alternate tuning. See also: capos.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:32 (twelve years ago)
Thank goodness, it sounded like you were idly skipping through London Calling going "A .. G ... open E"
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 15:37 (twelve years ago)
Keef's whole open-tuning deal was just to make the songs as easy to play as possible, right? Feel like I read something about him saying you should never need more than two fingers.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 8 July 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)
I worked it out years ago in standard tuning, E and Amaj7, adding fingers to the 4th fret to make the riff. Had no idea it was in open E.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)
Open G takes about 30 seconds to do, I used to know how when I played guitar but have long forgotten.
Just voted. I cannot believe the quality of songs that didn't make my ballot. The Clash were just insanely good.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)
Open G is a pretty easy alternate tuning. Keith didn't really start using it a lot until the late '60s, maybe 1969. But it's pretty key to a lot of his stuff from "Honky Tonk Women" on up.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, my song list after the first cut was still 120 or so. Chopping down to 30 was the hard part, then I ordered the crucial top 15 or so, then just left the rest in whatever order they happened to be in.xp
― WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)
My list of absolute essentials was at 38. This was gruelling.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:40 (twelve years ago)
The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good. The Clash were just insanely good.
Yes.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Monday, 8 July 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
I got it down to 32 with some brutal cuts. I feel like I'm killing my children.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
Poor Sean F. Snappin!
― WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 17:23 (twelve years ago)
Ballot sent. Fuck, that wasn't easy. First draft of my ballot was pretty much their entire output (minus CtC).
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 8 July 2013 17:23 (twelve years ago)
I might excise some sacred cows I know everyone will vote for.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 17:24 (twelve years ago)
I did a good bit of that.
― WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
Ballot sent. Only voted for one set of the original & dub versions. Ditched a whole bunch of "hits"
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)
Okay, that's 26 ballots in so far.
― Gukbe, Monday, 8 July 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)
Okay, I lied and picked two songs and their dub counterparts. I love dub Clash!
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)
so a propos of this thread I heard "I fought the law" on of all things sf drivetime radio a couple days ago. clearly summoned by this thread. still had just incredible stopping power. urgency, immediacy, all that cliche stuff. but and this is what makes the clash stand out wrt the punk/noise convo upthread this incredible clarity too.
and that's sandwiched between modern brickwalled-for-radio stuff. glad I haven't sent in a ballot yet bc this track clearly needs to be higher than I had it.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)
Nobody forget to vote for:
Stay FreeOne More TimeWashington Bullets
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:14 (twelve years ago)
I voted for one of those, and another was a one of my very last cuts.
― WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)
I voted for one too.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)
Two of them in my top ten so far, no worries.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:30 (twelve years ago)
one of those songs is my no.2
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)
sent my ballot!
― some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)
mine too
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:35 (twelve years ago)
I'm slightly bummed that I'm going to be out of town for a week and will be following the rollout in snatched moments during my Chicago trip.
― WilliamC, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:42 (twelve years ago)
I Fought The Law xp - totally agree that there's a mysterious power to that track. I was iirc the first to nominate for our 20th century poll and that was one of the first things that immediately leapt to mind - which I can't explain at all, it was never more than a ditty to me at that point.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 21:51 (twelve years ago)
also obv the sweet percussion action on "robbing people with a - pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop - six gun" but yeah that alone doesn't explain what they drew out of that old chestnut.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 July 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)
They give it oomph and danger? I love the original, but it is quaint.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:18 (twelve years ago)
Washington Bullets would have made my list if we went to 40.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)
hope i'm not the only one voting the shit out of Give'Em Enough Rope.
Gukbe, are you sending confirmation mails?
― g simmel, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)
i will be voting tonight :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:24 (twelve years ago)
no you weren't!
xpost
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)
I'll be doing it in the morning, promise
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)
I'm a big believer in the Clash mythology, but I don't think Bobby Fuller is quaint. (Sorry if that's just semantic nitpicking.)
― timellison, Monday, 8 July 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)
dude I'm still bummed that I can't even do a ballot due to travelling, let alone follow any of the rollout
― pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Monday, 8 July 2013 23:31 (twelve years ago)
disco poll is going to be worse though
Bobby Fuller isn't quaint, per se. But the Clash version takes that song and pretty much owns it.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)
This is practically (for obvious reasons) Buddy Holly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ
Of course, Buddy Holly is one of the few acts I may love more than the Clash. Quaint ain't the same thing as bad!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:06 (twelve years ago)
― g simmel, Monday, July 8, 2013 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
I was but I've been slacking. i'll get on it.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:14 (twelve years ago)
btw I'm not sure when the rollout will commence. I put the deadline on a Tuesday night because of the holidays, but I loathe stopping a rollout on a weekend. I guess it'll come down to how fast I can tabulate the results, which I won't be able to get to until Wednesday afternoon (US Time).
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)
They pretty much OWN "Police on My Back" as well!
― timellison, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 00:41 (twelve years ago)
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 01:16 (twelve years ago)