Pearl Jam - C or D?

Vitalogy > No Code > Ten > Yield > Vs. > Binaural > Backspacer > Riot Act > s/t

"In My Tree" is such a jam, if we polled these guys my #1 easy, & the drumming is the main reason why: he doesn't ride the cymbals so they hit harder, and I make a rock face every time they pop

Riot Act just has kind of a bad vibe feel. Love Boat Captain is the only reprieve for me

yeah 'in my tree' is rad

Can anything really challenge "Bushleaguer" as their worst song ever?

why so beleaguered?

ugh Bushleaguer :(

Dudes, I never said they should have kept Dave. Just that I think they do better with a more expressive drummer.

I also never said they should have made an album like "Automatic." I just think they might have made more interesting albums if they weren't always in rock mode. Though of course there are plenty of cool non-rock things scattered throughout the catalog.

Like, I am at best a casual fan, but I have always been intrigued enough by the band and its potential - and actual accomplishments - to follow along.

I never saw Dave as expressive so much as he liked to hit things hard

some patches of his playing had soul

he had soul but he wasn't a soldier

i've probably yelled about this here before but they left the best songs off of binaural. "sad" is probably my favorite pj song

i love riot act bc it's so dark and weird and cameron seems more fused to the band but yeah it's waaaay too long

a great song from the back half of riot act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp48rFR92W8

how do you leave this off a record and not feel regret about it literally all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V-DHL9xzfI

I like "Green Disease." I'd like it more were it not for "G...R..EED" etc

haha i think it's cute

I'm Riot Act fan. I think it was a "cleaner" album in that some of the normally rough edges were smoothed out (and Eddie didn't yell) but despite that, I thought the songs were tightly written.

I'm listening to "Backspacer" for the first time. Solid!

"The Fixer" is fun to sing in the car.

yeah it's a pretty good rocker. a few bung notes here and there (Johnny Guitar's not a favorite).

i think 'just breathe' is one of their lovelier songs, it always makes me bawl

Supersonic is my favorite

"Just Breathe" sounds like a cousin of "Man of the Hour."

it does! I never thought of that

lol they changed the lyrics of Supersonic for one of their Seattle shows <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90VmGGzxTY

i love the concept and much of the execution of backspacer, i just miss mike's solos

Why am I enjoying this thread so much?

we cool

There's a nice detente to the Pearl Jam debate, or lack thereof. The band pretty smartly ceded the center to others early on, which by default left it just enough left of center, straddling the totally palatable place between "alternative" and "mainstream." Which is to say, there's nothing not-mainstream about the band, particularly, save the fact that it is not (at all) distant bastard relative Nickelback, but that's a pretty huge difference. People might not like Pearl Jam, but I don't think many truly hate them anymore, which is total counter the animus engendered by the, well, alternative.

REM, Radiohead and yes, even U2 did much the same thing. There were enough pale imitators and opportunistic copycats that even at their most insufferable they became totally defensible by dint of not being ... Coldplay, I guess.

So I watched the documentary PJ20 and actually really enjoyed it. They do seem to have dignity to them as a band. Stone Gossard seems like a nice guy.

Yeah, I mean it's basically a love letter to them from Cameron Crowe, but even with that knowledge they still seem like grounded and dignified fellas.

http://pearljam.com/countdown

Tour + a new 3-day countdown clock.

North American tour. But still another countdown clock set for three days from now, maybe that'll be the new album or single.

(xpost - beat me to it)

But of course no other Chicago stop, since they completely fucked up the pre-sales for the Wrigley shows and fucked a lot of people over.

Did they? It's the same weekend as the Pitchfork Fest. And Phish. Lots of committed fans scattered in different directions that weekend.

OAKLAND WOOOOOOOO

mr veg already called me this morning to give me the good news <3

Well, I guess they didn't really fuck it up, but I guess the Wrigleyville area has been really bitching about all the big concerts lately so apparently the residents asked for some exclusive first rights to tickets or something. Anyway, there was a special pre-pre-sale for Wrigleyville residents which ended up eating up way, way, way more than the band expected. Almost all of the residents bought the max allowed to flip. So even Ten Club members ended up being completely shut out of even getting a shot at tickets at face price. Last time I checked, tickets were going for upwards of $500 a pop on StubHub. I like Pearl Jam a lot and I'd have loved to have seen a show at Wrigley, but not for that much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK1njeQdAVk

At just after 1:00, is that a snippet of something new? It may not be, but it doesn't immediately sound familiar either.

pumped that there's a Baltimore date, hopefully I'll get to see it.

started making playlists of fav songs from each drummer/era, goddamn i love these Jack Irons songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhODYyZVL6Y

spin spin spin the black circle

It's so cute when they write punk tunes

Production's got a dispiriting digital sheen to it, moreso than usual?

Backspacer was produced extremely "clear" too.

True, but things like the many Vedder vocal overdubs and too-clean starts and stops feel like another step further.

Eew. I like this song, and I'm sure I'll like many of the other songs on the album, but it's an album called Lightning Bolt and its cover looks like clipart.

Really? Lightning Bolt?

http://cdn.antiquiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/lb_cover.jpg

super meh

Sounds a little like Clutch w out the fury. I like it, good hook.