To "rock fans", what is meant to be the canonical, everyone can agree on, album of the decade?

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AleXTC, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Foo Fighters seem like a pretty good call: omnipresent, neither really objectionable not terribly memorable, kind of rock ambience of the period. The sort of thing that only becomes obvious with the distance of a decade or so.

Soukesian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

"Neither really objectionable not terribly memorable" does not equal canonical, not by a long shot.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

err, isn't this thread about the album, not the band of the decade ?

AleXTC, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:46 (fifteen years ago) link

You're right. But "Neither really objectionable not terribly memorable" is what you end up with when you talk about "everyone can agree on". Canonical can be something else again.

Soukesian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Dunno, if "Nevermind" was the one for a previous decade, it's neither of those things...

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Dudes, when people say things like "everyone can agree", they do not actually mean everyone.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, even "Happy Birthday to you" can be counted as canonical, and yet people get depressed by it. It's memorable, though...

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, definitely the 2000s failed to have an 'album of the decade'. it's official. it's 2009.

people badmouth the 90s, but Nevermind and OK Computer were there. and you didn't have to like these albuns to accept the fact either one was THE album of the 90s. I'm not talking about personal opinion here.

but 'Is this it'? 'Elephant'? Even Kid A it's hard to defend without using some brainy argument.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link

brainy argument for Kid A:

the anti-tunes are as good as the tunes, man.

37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Argh argh argh we're taking Dom's lolthread seriously

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

brainy argument for Kid A:

the anti-tunes are as good as the tunes, man.

ok then. Kid A, the album of 2000s

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Too much Kid A in this thread, not enough Kid Rock.

I'd say OK ComputerDevil Without a Cause.

Who said the album of the 00s actually had to be from the 00s?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, I'd probably say "Hybrid Theory" by Linkin Park.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

another music forum came up with this list:

The Ondarock Forum Best Albums of the 00s
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/ondarockforum/the_ondarock_forum_best_albums_of_the_00s

153 album listed

note: number 1:
Kid A
Radiohead
Kid A (2000)

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Blue collar local guys will vouch for Green Day, Eminem, and Foos but not White Stripes and Strokes

― i'm pretty sure that's not what he meant by twinky train (los blue jeans), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:06 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rong

brainless popcorn (some dude), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Return to Sucky Mountain?

Yankee Hotel Sucktrot?

Fuck all of you.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this decade more than ever the gulf between the established music media [print, radio, tv] and what is going outside the mainstream has grown wider.

Just look at the crap that has been mentioned on this thread, The Hives [retro bucket wrenching crap], Queens of the Stone Age [one trick pony riff merchants], Foo Fighters [making the same radio friendly album over and over again], The Strokes [simpleton music for college kids], White Stripes [rather limited and one dimensional], The Darkness [comedy rock], the Shins [tedious indie rock drivel], The Hold Steady [trad rock tripe that needs a good critical bashing]

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

All the bands you just mentioned are good except for The Hold Steady.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Queens of the Stone Age [one trick pony riff merchants]

This one is just rong rong rong.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the Shins [tedious indie rock drivel]

Goddamnit Chutes Too Narrow is not tedious or drivel.. If this is honestly what people think, then why did any of you bother listening to any rock since 2000?

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the best straight-up rock album since 2000 is Gimme Fiction, but I'm not sure if I count as a "rock fan.."

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anybody wanna give me an OTM on Linkin Park? I think I fucking nailed it!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

try: Ephel Duath, Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Miriodor, Supersilent, Scott Walker, Ulver, Cave In, Dark Tranquillity, Earthtone 9, Neurosis

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yay!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Thread delivers

Coyote Ultra Nate (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Cave In, Dark Tranquillity

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

masterful use of commas

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I have one Cave In record and it is very not good. I think I might have bought the wrong one though.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Cavein - Jupiter - is the masterpiece

http://www.cavein.net/disc/hh66652.htm

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Always get Cave In, Capdown and Kapowski confused.

Coyote Ultra Nate (The stickman from the hilarious xkcd comics), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

not one Chinese Democracy nod...

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

at the drive in?

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

What about Chikinki? xxp

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

lol I remember Chikinki

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

Thanks!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I was going to say Hybrid Theory myself upthread, but was worried I'd be ostracised. If we really are taking this seriously, how about Back to Black?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

re: you listen to the wrong type of rock

that statement was a response to:

If this is honestly what people think, then why did any of you bother listening to any rock since 2000?

― billstevejim

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Word. Isis and Cave-In are awesome, (I haven't heard the rest of your list), but I doubt they're contenders for the canonical rock album of the decade.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

good call on linkin park, whoever. plus also the big obvious overlooked, decade framing, present-anticipating rock steady, courtesy of yr no doubt

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

forgot that one yesterday, but seems super obv in retrospect

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

reminder of what ilm voted the best albums of the first half of this decade
http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

and thank you dj martian for posting approved listening list. i'm glad people still do that

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

you listen to the wrong type of rock

try: Ephel Duath, Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Miriodor, Supersilent, Scott Walker, Ulver, Cave In, Dark Tranquillity, Earthtone 9, Neurosis

No I don't.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lol two of my favourite bands are in that DJ Martian list

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

lot of stuff on mid-point ILX hot list that still might be worth considering: shellac 10000 hurts, real new fall, gallowsbird bark, le tigre, fever to tell, VCN, etc. most unlikely to emerge as among THEE albums, except maybe that yeah yeah yeahs thing, i dunno

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

"Kid A" isn't a rock album, thus, I don't understand its mention here.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol two of my favourite bands are in that DJ Martian list

Which ones, country matters?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link

guys i think we have to wait until the lil wayne rock album drops before we decide this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 February 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link


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