Has Led Zeppelin Dated Poorly?

I did presume "InThru" to be the last 'jewel' in the box, do have to 'slog' through SomgRemains (hey, that's a Stump song!) as rules is rules..

PhysGraf, I do consider one of the all time "great double album, but needs lots of playing before you know it" like the Beatles' white album, and "Sandinista" (I know,etc)

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

I'd skip Song Remains The Same and pay attention instead to the BBC Sessions

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:16 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Besides the opening vocal on "Bring It On Home" (II)- one of the few Plant vocals that I really dislike - the power of that track is ALL TIME.

A good place as any to post Marcello's outstanding review of Presence: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/led-zeppelin-presence.html

I'd skip Song Remains The Same and pay attention instead to the BBC Sessions

Is not in't box.

What does the box look like?

A cube (I mean each side the same size), black, inside slides out..

http://www.toymania.com/columns/spotlight/images/s1hellraiserbox.jpg

No, more like http://image.blog.bitcomet.com/postpic/20081020/7954358_engcdf081020081511.jpeg

Isn't the version of We're Gonna Groove on CODA just the live take with overdubs?

Anyway, yes to BBC sessions and Lemon Song. Turns out that, contrary to my Jimmy Page-worshipping teens, every Zep song I truly love has JPJ's funk at its core: Lemon Song, Travelling Riverside Blues, How Many More Times, etc. etc.

Yeah, Royal Albert Hall recording w/overdubs. xpost

I know the OP is 5 years old now but I hear variations on this sometimes:

Jimmy Page's solos ("Heartbreaker" for one) were always ridiculously slapdash

Are there even any 'slapdash' moments after the first two albums, let alone ones that are ridiculously so? I definitely don't think this is a sensible thing to say about e.g. "Achilles's Last Stand".

The comments about the production seem insane too.

Hot dog solo is remarkably pathetic

OK, I don't listen much at all to that album, admittedly, and never thought of "Hot Dog" as more than throwaway filler. "Always" is pretty OTT though.

"Good Times, Bad Times" is one of the greatest Album 1, Side 1, Track 1s of all time. OF ALL TIME.

― This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, July 4, 2013 8:16 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also, "I'm Gonna Crawl" one of the most affecting Last Album, Side 2, Last Tracks of all time.

no

yes.

even if it wasn't intended to be their last album, but that's part of why it's so affecting for me.

"In Through The Out Door" was the only Zep album i'm old enough to rembember when it was new. I only listened to pop/top-40 radio at the time, and it sounded like nothing else I'd ever heard on the radio. It also didn't sound much like any other Led Zeppelin album. I still think it's underrated, at least compared to their other albums.

they sound a hell of a lot better to me now than they did in the 80s, so i figure they've dated rather well

Hot dog solo is remarkably pathetic

― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They really should have flown in James Burton to overdub that one. Jimmy was aiming for it, but the H was taking it's toll that day.

Eh, so his timing and articulation are off a bit. I still think "Hot Dog"'s a great little anomaly in the Crunge/D'yer Maker tradition.

Ha, those are the two songs that bring down HotH from 10/10 status for me.

I mean, it would be hard to flawlessly master all the styles Page tried to play with.

But e.g. "The Rover" and "Stairway" are two more really elegant, memorable solos on top of the one I mentioned. Pretty much everything on Presence is very well-played and well-constructed imo.

Some of JP's weeeirdest soloing on "Presence" too! All that Fender wangbar abuse.

(Love "The Crunge", don't care much for "D'yer Maker" but they both served my point anyways)

Hell yeah

https://traxman1.bandcamp.com/album/traxman-vs-zeppelin-e-p

What fresh, hot garbagey Hell is this?

Guess I should have posted on the footwork thread

Oh god, why?!

Let's remix Led Zeppelin but squash the drums -- the best part -- and replace them with extremely shitty digi-hats and handclaps!

Ok

(LZ drums are all-time but still don't stand up to an 808 on a soundsystem)

This is definitely Not For Me™️

sorry Jord, swing and a miss lol

omg

I find myself appreciating Led Zeppelin more than I ever did other than the time in my life when I was just being exposed to loud, guitar-based music and they served as one of several gateway drugs. And with this newfound appreciation, I find the band's music to be both a perfect encapsulation of a long-gone era, but also somewhat timeless.

See AC/DC for an even better example of what I speak of.

(LZ drums are all-time but still don't stand up to an 808 on a soundsystem)

mix isn’t great but I’d rather hear it than any of their classics

You do you!

it gets much worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8m6yilFSI

I'm a drummer, I looove JB, but the 808 clap has made more people dance than his snare drum sound.

(also if the kick is also meant to be the source of bass in the track, it's usually layered with other samples)

Too lazy to ctrl + f for Page/Mattix jokes but I’m sure ILXors of Time Past got that covered.

People will remember Beyonce and think: Holy Crap, what an insane amount of time, attention and money was abjectly wasted on an egomaniacal, undercooked, overblown 'talent.' She's a pretty face and little more beyond that.

^ better joke than the "Whole Lotta Love" remix
xp

(Sorry Jordan!)

I’m not even a huge beyonce fan but comparing her to zeppelin is almost unfair on zeppelin

TS: ‘Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)’ vs songs about the One Ring.

Ring Cycle obv