Britpop re-assesed?

Britpop destroyed whatever was interesting about the Manics IMO...they weren't 'of' it but the climate didn't really help them (artistically etc etc)

If in doubt - turn the guitars down and fill it up with strings

Has there been an ATP style Britpop festival yet? Bound to be money in that, sadly.

A Britpop stage at T In The Park with Ocean Colour Scene headlining would go down a storm
*sighs at scotland*

This forum introduced me to the horror that is Reef. My last trip to the UK, I heard "PLACE YER HANDS ON MY 'OLE" in almost every bar/club I went to. I have no idea how I avoided that monstrosity for so long. I'm sad I didn't keep avoiding it.

Britpop destroyed whatever was interesting about the Manics IMO...they weren't 'of' it but the climate didn't really help them (artistically etc etc)

― Master of Treacle, Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:00 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wouldn't say Britpop destroyed what was interesting about the Manics, I'd say there was enough that was interesting about them to enable them to stand out somewhat in 1996 circa Everything Must Go. Oasis and the rest of the Britpop lot weren't really tackling subjects such as Kevin Carter, Willem De Kooning etc. Plus, the fact that Everything Must Go was a big seller helped people get exposed to their earlier work.

What ruined the Manics artistically (although not commercially), but only for a short while, was success. Suddenly they became this commercial proposition and the feeling was that they were trying to sustain that a little bit with This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours, which I found quite bland and disappointing when it came out. I think they were flailing about searching for a direction circa Know Your Enemy and Lifeblood, but I personally think they got back to what they did best with Send Away The Tigers and Journal For Plague Lovers. Of course, it wasn't the same, but so many years had elapsed by that point it would have been stupid to think they could have made Generation Terrorists or The Holy Bible again.

A Britpop stage at T In The Park with Ocean Colour Scene headlining would go down a storm
*sighs at scotland*

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, July 1, 2013 3:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

With Travis as support? :P

As posted on Post pics of the best/worst Battle Jackets and ILM will mark them out of 10

http://www.caughtinthecrossfire.com/uploads/2013/09/URBANOUTFIITERS_LEATHERJACKET_PUNK.jpg

i had a weird dream recently with no significant or memorable imagery, but it was sort of soundtracked by the opening bars of Reef's 'Put Your Hands Up', except played on a tuba instead of guitar.

i struggled to derive any meaning from the dream

First time as tragedy, second time as fizzy drinks.

http://www.nme.com/news/blur--2/74863

I thought this would be about Embrace reforming

If we ignore him, he might go away (Alex not Ned, that would be harsh).

Oh, Alex. You're richer than fucking god. You don't need the money; you are literally just doing this to be an utter irredeemable tit.

You only exist, just to punish me for youthful crushes, don't you? Like the embarrassing high school boyfriend that will never quite go away.

Please go away, Alex. Just go away. I have no more attention for you.

Poll: Alex's fizzy drink vs Dave's music and 'tales from his career' radio show vs Damon's solo album.

(winner will probably be Graham)

The store I work in sells *my little pony* pop so I for one welcome Britpop - especially since pop is the true word for fizzy sweet drinks. We never got any of his cheeses over here so I won't hold my breath for any Britpop though :(

Nah, it's some drunkened "Enough I just had an idea!" idea.

this juxtaposition amused me greatly

http://i.imgur.com/HyozHtb.jpg

They should call it "Josef K" then.

You know what we don't hear enough of on BBC Radio? Britpop, that's what.

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/bbc-to-toast-20-years-of-britpop

and so it begins

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/apr/03/britpop-kurt-cobain-20-years-nirvana

oh, and menswe@r have reformed ..

The further you get away from any musical movement, the more the women involved will have been erased from that movement. It's really depressing.

BB : good point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM--uprhvBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quVaSixLy8U

As this thread has reared its head again, perhaps it's time to post the Britpop Nuggets compilations I put together last year.

https://haonowshaokao.com/2015/09/20/britpop-nuggets-part-one-some-people-are-born-to-dance/
https://haonowshaokao.com/2015/09/28/britpop-nuggets-part-two-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-tolerate-northern-uproar/
https://haonowshaokao.com/2015/10/22/britpop-nuggets-part-three-long-live-the-uk-music-scene/

All I can say is fucking hell at this.
Not a single female artist on this list and I think 2 black people at most

http://charts.radiox.co.uk/2018/

Okay then, what female and black artists would you have personally chosen to include in a list that is predominantly a particular strand of '90s guitar music?

Catatonia? Sleeper? Bloc Party?

6 songs from this decade in the list; 3 of those are by Catfish And The Bottlemen.

women can't play guitars and minorities don't want to, obv

also I would have personally chosen to have anyone who contributed to this list given a full aurectomy

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41RQ61M68EL.jpg

i would imagine that the target audience for Radio X's "Best of British" list will be outraged by this lack of diversity

too many fookin pansy songs

Well yeah, it's a shit list and listening to solely this kind of stuff these days is, like, I dunno, having a "bread only" diet or something. However, it's clear that the audience of this particular station are into a specific type of music, and the simple fact of the matter is that there weren't all that many women or minorities making that sort of stuff.

Yes, the omission of at least Elastica is glaring, but hardly anyone gives a shit about Catatonia, Sleeper, Echobelly, Salad, Powder etc. in 2018.

How many other niche stations would describe their thin slice of songs being polled as "The Best British Songs Of All Time" (their capitals)?

maybe the sort of pompous niche station that would use "for the music fans" as a tagline

The sort of pompous niche station that is under the impression that '90s indie = all British music.

I still give a shit about Salad!

https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/salad-undressed

15 oasis songs on a best 100 of british music

there's not even 15 good oasis songs tbh (and i like oasis)

An across-all-decades, across-all-genres Top 100 of tracks by bands from the UK would be far more interesting and diverse, but that's not what this list is. It's basically a list for a specific type of music fan that hasn't moved on from the mid to late '90s.

FOOKIN BRITPOP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_KyYs0Ipy0

please watch that

& I still give a shit about Sleeper

Good on yer, me too.

Had one of those Shine compilations and put it on not that long ago. So terrible that I threw it in the bin and I never do that to cds.

There was a 'britpop' theme hour on Vintage last night, so I put it on...

Shed 7, Kula Shaker, Sleeper, Bluetones, Pulp, Boo Rads, oh god who else? I think I sacked it after the second Shed 7 started..

Pulp was good, as were the Boos. Sleeper were OK. The rest were cor blimey pants. Clearly not a best-of, I'd guess it was of a piece with that Shine comp.

Actually, the Kula track (Mystical machine gun) wasn't bad in itself, but then again there were other reasons why they were awful which were not to do with the music as such.

Actually, the Pulp was part of the Sheffield special which was on after, all of which was excellent.

To return to the original thread question, sure:

https://thequietus.com/articles/28775-martin-green-presents-super-sonics-40-junkshop-britpop-greats-review

that looks like a decent comp despite not much of it really being Britpop.

I really wanted to make a 'weird side of Britpop' playlist, but found it was harder than I imagined

a comp of the good stuff around at the time of Britpop that britpop fans ignored would be better playlist