Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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wooooah. i never knew that, holy crap.

for those intersted in greek, middle-eastern and meditteranean music of the 78rpm era, ian nagoski is selling these thumb drives complete with all the records he's put together ++ bonus mix tapes ++ lecture


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PREVIOUSLY RELEASED
v/a - Brass Pins & Pearls: International 78s
Marika Papagika - The Further the Flame, the Worse it Burns Me: Greek Folk Music, 1919-1929
Abdul Karim Khan - 1934-1937
v/a - What Remains of Eden: Musics of Anatolia & the Levant, 1928-1955
v/a - Bed of Pain: Greek Underworld Music, 1930-1955
v/a - To What Strange Place: the Music of the Ottoman-American Diaspora, 1916-1930. vol 1: Naughty Girl
v/a - To What Strange Place: the Music of the Ottoman-American Diaspora, 1916-1930. vol 2: I Wish I Never Came
v/a - To What Strange Place: the Music of the Ottoman-American Diaspora, 1916-1930. vol 3: Notes From Home
v/a - Rocket Infinity: the Global Rise of Rock n Roll, 1942-1962
v/a - Widow’s Joy: Eastern European Immigrant Dances, 1925-1930
Kesarbai Kerkar - 1944- 953
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v/a - Canaries & Nightingales, vol 1: “Oriental” Women in NYC & Istanbul, 1930-1955
v/a - 100 Moons: Hindustani Vocal Art, 1934-1952
Rita Abatzi - I’m Burning, I’m Burning, 1933-1937

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i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 21 June 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

finally listening to the new steve gunn which comes pretty close to my longheld fantasy of "what if there was a takoma fairport convention?"

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

haha, yeah, pretty close.
eesh that nagoski thumb drive is pretty tempting, might pull the trigger...

tylerw, Friday, 21 June 2013 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

pssshh you guys, guess i'll have to take ums' ad hom swipe as the price for trying to generate some partisan zeal. i know it can seem churlish to shit on ppl who are part of a small scene you love, but internal critique of a scene on a thread like this is just as important as championing it on the macro level, at which we'll all rep for this stuff, bring ppl along to see daniel bachman &c.

it's not for everyone but i love the mythology/bullshit musicians generate for themselves (& writers too) & the takoma ppl were grandmasters at it. i remember someone on ilx finding jack rose's "dr ragtime" shtick really embarrassing cod-fahey, but i thought it's self-conscious sloppyness was in keeping & charming, esp as fahey loved to be cod-all sorts of ppl. it's not surprising to me that the way ppl approach their own mythos & presentation is analagous to how they approach their playing.

so, yeah, daniel bachman seemed very amiable, his hollow-necked guitar was cool, & did quite like that collab grandavis mentioned w/ that percussionist mccolm, but i wasn't really into his set. he didn't really have much space in his playing, it was indistinct, and the pieces blurred into each other. he was fast&loud w/out having momentum or power, and sounded a bit like like jack rose w/all the indian influence taken out, less melodic lines on top, less structure, just rote blues moves. but yeah, he's young & plays well, there's no reason he won't get much better as a 'composer' (or w/e you want to call it) too.

i don't see why this should be a narrow style, but i do think that in copying your heroes you have to be careful or you will lose a lot of what made their playing so rich in the first place. if you invoke the same few things - in playing or in yr album cover - it becomes tired & meaningless, & yr on yr way to whisky advert territory. it's not less real, it's just less fun. so yeah, i am not declaring a fatwa on ppl w/ porches or checked shirts. i want a porch.

saw that dbh again, he was really good, again. i know most of you would really enjoy it - http://open.spotify.com/album/4Oq8HJhXnjJucSwEGEyQMZ

ogmor, Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:26 (thirteen years ago)

and yes, ian, i have been loving a lot of hawaiian stuff lately. sometimes w/ the quality of the recording i can hardly tell if it's acoustic or electric.

one of those songs that feels like it's being played forever somewhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xqKWMwIdFo

as for other non US/UK guitar i have been enjoying lately, this album by jose serrano & alberto el agujetas, two gitano inmates in spanish prisons. there was some sort of state organised flamenco competition &, basically, these guys recorded such a good record they got their sentences commuted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnjqlDQoPLM

i love their singing but i've also been listening to instrumental flamenco by nino ricardo. glorious stuff.

also been dipping into the enormous baden powell back catalogue recently, that guy is amazing.

ogmor, Sunday, 23 June 2013 14:40 (thirteen years ago)

Ogmor that swipe was in poor taste & I apologize

I do like your contributions to the thread esp the recommendations

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 23 June 2013 18:28 (thirteen years ago)

both victor herrero and josephine foster were great on friday night btw
i had never seen him before -- totally going to listen to more of his stuff now that i know that i like it
he writes a lot about nature, lyrics and singing were top notch in addition to interesting, very rhythmic playing
recommended!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

xp it's alright mate, but that's sweet.

re: album covers & presentation, i need this baden powell album:

http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/db/5d/00185ddb.jpeg

i've been throwing together various tracks from all over the place in this playlist if anyone's curious - volk guitar

ogmor, Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

nice, thanks! and yeah, dissenting opinions welcome, seriously! i keep thinking whenever i play one of these recent solo guitar things that I'm going to be bored or something, but it hasn't been happening. this kind of music just seems to be exactly what i want to hear these days.
anyhoo, listening to this this morning: http://folkadelphia.bandcamp.com/album/william-tyler-folkadelphia-session-4-14-2013

tylerw, Monday, 24 June 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

this is a new song i wrote, feel like it needs one more part but i'm pretty psyched about it

ogmor - listen and gain a new appreciation for william tyler and bachman!!!

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/the-low-coast

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

Good start U.M.S., agree with you that it may need another part or two, but I like the two parts so far. Definitely a pretty progression.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's too repetitive now, needs a bridge at very least

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

It definitely breezed by (in a good way, had a natural flow to it), and was by no means boring to me, but yeah a bridge and some slight tweaking would serve it well. The existing parts are keepers though.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

nice! i dig the right-hand pattern. idk how you've recorded it but i love that grainy fidelity.

ogmor, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:43 (thirteen years ago)

He could be left-handed ogmor ....

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Kidding obviously.

grandavis, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:55 (thirteen years ago)

Good stuff, ums, kinda reminded me of a Califone song I can't place right now, something on "Roots and Crowns" I think. Keep it up! I'm hoping to record soon myself, my main priority is firming up my technique, I'm not good enough to play some of the stuff I've written out, if that makes any sense- little quick chord changes and shit. In a few months (optimistic) I'll hit up this thread with 'em.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

thx all.

ogmor - i record with a soulful and authentic android phone voice app balanced on my knee. i've actually grown to like it's lo-fi sound.

never heard califone actually, always meant to check them out. are they like calexico/giant sand type thing?

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOmKIuvh-M

i think you might like them!

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHOmKIuvh-M

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

^excellent tune.

one of my favorites, quite lovely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmjICUua3Zw

They pull some weird production tricks sometimes, so it's worth listening on a decent system. Also I love the minimal percussion they use.

And ya ums I like the lo-fi sound too!

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

I love Califone! Those are great sample tracks. They're somewhere between Calexico and Giant Sand (though I relentlessly will defend Calexico's ability to be amazing at experimental/intimate).

Evan, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

i like califone....actually more than calexico or giant sand some songs really remind me of latin playboys in terms of production

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

Califone one of my favorite bands ever.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

Last record was pretty ignored it seems.

Evan, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

i've only deeply gotten into Quicksand/Cradlesnakes by them (and maybe the heron king thing, too). i should listen to them more -- though occasionally i thought the (admittedly very cool) production/percussion was at times at odds w/ the songwriting? maybe that's sorta the point.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, when I first started listening to them I found the instrumentation to be over-noodly but eventually I grew to love it. I think it is sort of the point.

Evan, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

a soulful and authentic android phone voice app balanced on my knee

that's how i like it. pure delta haze.

ogmor, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 22:17 (thirteen years ago)

I like this track from the new comp on Tompkins Square, "Turn Me Loose: Outsiders of Old-Time Music."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zTPh0xCxL-I

Strangely, the aforementioned comp has one of the same Lemuel Turner tracks that was on Imaginational Anthem 6. I understand they were compiled by two different people and from different 78 collections, but you'd think someone at Tompkins Square would have nixed that and they could have found a suitable substitute?

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

yeahhh, i thought that was weird too -- it's Lemuel Turner's big moment! great track though.

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Three cheers for Lemuel Turner!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Hah, I am friends with a Lemuel, which I thought was such a weird name (he goes by Lem). An alternate version of Samuel I guess. Will have to check out this other Lemuel.

grandavis, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

crossover or not, both of those comps are killer. i really like the fiddle/accordion (?) thing by Blind Joe Magrum & Fred Shriver, is there more of those dudes?

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

only four issued sides --
http://countrydiscography.blogspot.com/2012/03/blind-joe-mangrum-and-fred-shriver.html

do you fuck with any cajun stuff, tyler? there's a lot of fiddle/accordion jams in that world.
also there are some great irish & canadian accordionists...

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 16:35 (thirteen years ago)

pretty unfamiliar w/ the world of cajun tbh, though that new tompkins sq. comp (let me play this for you) has got me thinking i should get more into it. open to any/all recommendations!

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

From what I've seen, collecting Irish accordion records shouldn't cost very much!

Evan, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 17:07 (thirteen years ago)

haha yeah. you know, i think i vastly prefer the sound of an accordion from the 1920s-30s -- just the way the instrument kind of distorts in those old recordings, as opposed to more hi-fi, distinct sounds that you'd hear nowadays.

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 17:11 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m74MOogSoDM

There's a collection of Amede Ardoin's material recently released that is lovely stuff...

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/Mama-Ill-Long-Gone-Recordings/dp/B004INNRSW/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1372267368&sr=1-1&keywords=amede+ardoin

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

Fuck man, sure wish I could go to that Steve Gunn trio/Tom Carter & Loren Connors duo/Highlife bill. Union Pool is a weird bar, but I love the venue in the back, good small space with decent sightlines. Should be pretty great I imagine.

grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, the show space is pretty good in there.. saw steve play there recently actually and it was great. i don't know who highlife is?

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

will be going tho... of course. i try to see loren any chance i get. and steve and tom are great guys. weird bar for sure.. on a saturday the patio outside will no doubt be filled with loud and rambunctious 20-somethings..

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:05 (thirteen years ago)

(as opposed to myself the quiet and reserved 20-something)

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

wish there was a vid on youtube of this Darby & Tarlton 78 i got in the mail.. "Mexican Rag." Great slide guitar. they're good in general but this is maybe my new fave, displacing "down in florida on a hog."

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIilpCMo95k

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:15 (thirteen years ago)

Highlife is a "Sleepy" Doug Shaw band (he was/is in White Magic and has played guitar for a bunch of other bands I think, not sure what exactly Highlife does though). The meat-markety aspects of Union Pool are definitely high, but yeah that show space is like a different beast. Creates a strange mix, but glad that place puts on the kinda shows it does. Would really be most excited to see Tom & Loren together, as I have been on a big listening kick with both of them.

grandavis, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

xp awesome! what are they doing on a hog in florida though?

tylerw, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

ooohhh, right. i guess i did know that about highlife. i just didn't remember. should be fun.

tyler: they are having a party.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=103386

seems like this meaning of "on a hog" (or 'the' hog?) implies riding the rails.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

actually... i didn't read far enuff:


rom the notes in book accompanying Bear Family box set of complete Darby and Tarlton: 'In 1920-24, Tom traveled to Florida to see if the boom that was going on there would rub off on him. As he tells it, "I'd go from here to town to town and around. I played the Florida boom. While I played the Florida boom, I composed this song called 'Down in Florida on a Hog'" ... While Tom did put this song together and explains that "on a hog" refers to living high on the hog, the song is nevertheless clearly a version of "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad" ... The melody related to a whole family of tunes including "KC Railroad" or "KC Moan" that includes both black and white tradition. It is interesting to note Tom's reference to Birmingham. Throughout the Darby and Tarlton repertoire, they make references to Birmingham. There is no indication that Tom was ever in the city'. [Note by Ed Kahn]

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:37 (thirteen years ago)


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