6/7/2011, imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single (TERIUS NASH aka THE-DREAM, LOVE IV: anticipation and adoration)

tuh-rye-us?

that's wild, man

i'm not saying it made sense. but when you only know a name in print sometimes you come up with unconscious assumptions.

wait is that tear as in crying a tear or as in tearing a piece of clothing? cause I've always assumed his name was pronounced the latter tear-ee-us

the former?!

cool segment

yeah, like crying

teary-us is way weirder than tuh-rye-us to me? at least the latter fits like how some say darius. i guess as a made up name dude can p much say it how he likes tho

imo it's just uh, terry... with an us

huh, idk if i was aware that juvenile is also a terius

rtc otm

― love will terius apart (k3vin k.), Friday, October 9, 2009 7:46 PM (3 years ago)

also me otm

i dunno if the NPR guy had it right, i'm just saying he went "teery-us" multiple times

tear (as in ripping clothing)-ee-us is how i always heard it

radio dude was kinda british tbf?

Who the hell pronounces Darius like Mariah? It rhymes with tear (as in ripping clothing)-ee-us.

either we're weeping or rending garments, either way it's all very appropriate

http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixdar02&word=Darius

i've been mispronouncing "hootie" for years too

"your body must be anticipated because it already done leaked out"

-_-

whoa this is really good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wa2VTsm0dg4

This is brilliant both as a statement and a song, totally surprised that he even had this in him.

I was with this until it got to the message at the end and then my eyes rolled out of my head.

was not...expecting that

message at the end is dumb but without wanting to disrespect the guy i would have expected him to mess this up even worse

Surprised that the guy who assembled "How To Be A Lady Vol 1" has strange ideas about class and identity

this is pretty great and very welcome

the message at the end made me smh but i cannot stop listening to this. might play it for my kids tomorrow. also the footage of harvey milk made me tear up a little. terius is so aggressively hetero i wouldn't necessarily have predicted he'd identify with the gay rights movement.

ENOUGH PAIN CAN MAKE A WHOLE RACE BITTER

i keep texting my sister lyrics

"my father spoke of you through that liquor" is an unexpectedly beautiful lyric

this is moving but man i feel like i need to pick it apart

have to admit i'd heard the 'hilfiger is a racist' thing and never looked into it myself

http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/hilfiger.asp

yeah the idea that all the struggles being depicted in the video are one struggle is very moving and also false, but i think i might in part be excited that dream can even make a good song anymore

also excited to teach it tbh

i predict my kids will also sth at "classism is the new racism" and i can't wait. is that evil?

also i forgot about dream's "i love my mom" virgin side of the virgin whore complex mode

goole, pick it apart!

my students have discussed the hilfiger thing in class before, and they mostly know it's a false rumor, but i think the hilfiger advertising apparatus is still pretty alienating to them. (i used a hilfiger ad in a lesson on persuasion and the discussion of hilfiger's construction of his market afterward was thoughtful)

the rhyme in this song is really good

my lesson is ostensibly going to be about rhyme and allusion

if you guys won't show up and post all day about dream like we used to in 2007 then i will just continue to post about my lesson plans. i'm sleep-deprived enough to do it.

ps ENOUGH PAIN CAN MAKE A WHOLE RACE BITTER

am i making this thread unreadable? i keep eating cookie dough and hitting refresh on this video on youtube.

i have to go to dinner, damn!

most oooh moment is putting "since then ain't been a lot going on" over the obamas.

ENOUGH PAIN CAN MAKE A WHOLE RACE BITTER

for real, though, this line makes me think about how while i was teaching a unit on the narrative of the life of fred douglass, one of my students pulled me aside and whispered (because i had a white paraeducator in the room) i can't read stuff like this; it makes me hate white people. and i was just like, i know. and could not think of a damn thing else to say. teaching american lit to black kids feels like aggression sometimes. for all i know, they'll be like do we have to talk about race again??? tomorrow.

i'm not really sure what we're all s'ing our h's at, "classism is the new racism" is maybe not the best phraseology but it's not like dream is denying the continued presence/effects of racism in this country -- quite the opposite, in fact. i suppose recognizing linked struggles has fallen out of fashion lately but overall i thought the message was pretty coherent -- the basic idea is that the rulers oppress us in ways less "obvious" (for want of a much better term) than traditional racism but which have similarly dehumanizing effects. (though interesting to note that i didn't pick up on any women's issues in the video, though if may have missed something.)

like if you think that recognizing the connectedness of the struggles of the variegated oppressed is somehow counterrevolutionary i just don't know what to tell you. here's noted racism denier huey newton on the linked struggles of the black, gay, and women's movements - http://www.workers.org/2012/us/huey_p_newton_0524/

the song is ok too i guess

i don't think it's counterrevolutionary at all, and i don't think they're unconnected. Of course they overlap, especially for people in more than one category (and race is inextricable from class in this country). I do think that montage can overly simplify and i think it is imprecise to suggest that all these struggles are the same struggle, which the video tends to suggest. i also think my students will likely take issue with the notion that black is a feeling unmoored from a particular racial experience.

tbh i was the only one sing my h itt though. i did post a million times; i can see how it seemed like "we all" were.

xp yeah i mean saying that being gay or being poor is just like being black is clearly sacrificing nuance in favor of an easy narrative, but i think there's value in pointing out that while the experiences might be different, there is still a common enemy. worth noting too that the guy who made this happens to be black, it's not like this is a macklemore song or something. about to go deep into mindreading here so you'll have to excuse me but it's possible that dream intended for the audience to be fellow blacks, to say "these groups are oppressed too, these are causes we should support"

and "classism is the new racism" is too glib to be worthy of the song, which i appear to like a lot more than you do