Search and Destroy : Julian Cope

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Weirdly, I was pondering buying the Modern Antiquarian yesterday ... now that you can buy it for 20 odd quid from Amazon (I must confess I have previously bought a copy and sold it without reading for £100+).

djh, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)

IIRC he played a st julian track and a teardrops song the one and only time i saw him but i could be wrong.

but yeah this is probably the "f*ck it here's the classics" tour i'd most like to see in the world

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)

The only time I saw him was solo at the Middle East back in, I think, 1995. Round 20 Mothers, I think.

Was a pretty amazing show for one dude with a guitar/keyboard.
I remember him walking onto the stage, SUPER LATE, and doing a whole stetching, yawning act about just waking up... complaining about "city dwellers" and the strange hours we keep. He also played a song while walking back and forth on the bar. High entertainment!

As for "f*ck it here's the classics" - Rooster and DRS would be necessities!

mr.raffles, Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)

It's not impossible this was the very time I saw him!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)

I think it was the only time he's played Boston since the Peggy show(s?) at the Paradise in 91 or so (which I was out of town for. grr), so... probably?

Hi!

mr.raffles, Thursday, 20 June 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, must be, I'm almost sure the show I saw was at the Middle East, and it was definitely a solo.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 21 June 2013 14:48 (twelve years ago)

I was at that Middle East gig as well! Brilliant it was. Also not been into his work since, alas.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 21 June 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)

only 100 people attended that show but every one of them wasted the rest of their life on ilx

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 21 June 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)

JC MidEastShow Support Group

If my memory isn't tricking me, I remember he also did a pretty fun interview on 'BCN when he was in town, which struck me as odd, as they were mainly playing Stone Temple Pilots and Candlebox round that time. He either played or had them play that tune that mentions Madonna and Courtney Love too, which the internet tells me is "Conspiracist Blues."

mr.raffles, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

Quietus review sounds about right:

http://thequietus.com/articles/12603-julian-cope-revolutionary-suicide-review

mr.raffles, Friday, 21 June 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

http://i57.tinypic.com/2u3vdvr.jpg

Fucking hell, man.

"a bit of goatery, some demonry" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 11:18 (eleven years ago)

like some sort of neolithic boogie-rock dustman

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 11:53 (eleven years ago)

a silbury hillbilly

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 11:56 (eleven years ago)

that's pretty much what the records sound like these days too.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 13:39 (eleven years ago)

has the band name WAZZOCK been taken yet?

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:24 (eleven years ago)

i'm getting a hellboy vibe from the gloves

arthur treacher, or the fall of the british empire (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:07 (eleven years ago)

Why the WTF? have you not seen him a while or something?

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:10 (eleven years ago)

He's looked like that (on and off) since about 1982.

everything, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:29 (eleven years ago)

He had to give up the Scott Walker to do it, though.

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:41 (eleven years ago)

a silbury hillbilly

― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 11:56 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

V good.

djh, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:43 (eleven years ago)

i'm about as likely to read his novel as i am to wake up tomorrow speaking perfect inuit, but i think i would probably enjoy reading his thoughts on bono/blake or scottish independence right now

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:51 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

Autogeddon is amazing btw - I prefer it to Peggy Suicide if not Jehovahkill. So goddamn crazed and psychedelic - it's almost up there with Fried in terms of pure beautiful goofball madness, and it evokes a state of confused apocalyptic bliss - driving as the ultimate freedom as well as the means of damnation

twunty fifteen (imago), Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:25 (ten years ago)

Glad you revived this, for I've been listening to Jehovahkill all week and think it's one of the '90s best albums.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:26 (ten years ago)

nice, you're right.

twunty fifteen (imago), Saturday, 7 November 2015 00:28 (ten years ago)

Peggy Suicide through Interpreter is probably one the best all-time five-albums runs in music.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:24 (ten years ago)

I agree that Autogeddon is great. It seems v. underrated.

Tim F, Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:25 (ten years ago)

the emphatic pro-assassination stance of the album probably limited its appeal

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 7 November 2015 01:30 (ten years ago)

Even though it was two years later, Autogeddon felt to me at the time to be in the long shadow cast by Jehovakill and the brilliant dates he played for that tour.

MaresNest, Saturday, 7 November 2015 10:43 (ten years ago)

Autogeddon has some utterly shattering moments but it's not on the level of Fried, Jehovahkill and Citizen Cain'd for me.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 7 November 2015 15:20 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

Is there a story behind the lyrics change in "Greatness And Perfection", i.e. he really sings "greatest imperfection". It's a clever twist.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:48 (nine years ago)

five months pass...

Put your head back in the clouds, Mr. Cope. His best.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:34 (eight years ago)

you got room for one more, fear loves this place is in there twice! maybe it should be, it's one of his best.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:49 (eight years ago)

Maybe Kolly Kibber's Birthday or Screaming Secrets, and they're past your cut-off but Autogeddon Blues or Dust from Interpreter.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:59 (eight years ago)

good catch! Replaced.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 02:09 (eight years ago)

you should certainly, certainly check out 20 Mothers fyi - it's full of lovely little pop songs (like Try, Try, Try, which I'm sure you'd love, and the amazing Highway To The Sun)

imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 10:06 (eight years ago)

Yeah I like 20 Mothers more than autogeddon or interpreter tbh

Latterly, Citizen Cain'd is brilliant -- it has his hookiness AND his post-megalithic heaviness

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:49 (eight years ago)

"Try Try Try" is amazing because at that point he's clearly no longer interested in Top of the Pops but you just feel him saying "by the way, just so you know, I can still effortlessly produce incredibly hooky pop songs"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:23 (eight years ago)

Given the other songs you liked, I'm surprised no "5 O'Clock World" -- why, because it's a cover?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:26 (eight years ago)

5 O'Clock World is such an odd cover, by that point he'd been a pop star for like ten years.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:47 (eight years ago)

was he ever really a pop star? Serious question. I know he and the TE had a few hits.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:48 (eight years ago)

Teardrop Explodes at the time were Duran Duran level huge in the UK, no? He was pop pinup for sure. And World Shut Your Mouth was definitely in heavy rotation on MTV in the early 80s... also his My Nation Underground singles were constantly on Post-Modern MTV and 120 Minutes in '89 (how I first got interested in him), Island was definitely trying to make him one again.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)

Yeah, in my link I mentioned the CMJ and modern rock chart hits ("Charlotte Anne" hit #1).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:03 (eight years ago)

Yeah, the sort of subdued psych aspect of Charlotte Anne is what made me buy My Nation Underground back then!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:09 (eight years ago)

Not that I would have described it that way then, probably more like "this has that same weirdness the Legendary Pink Dots exhibit"

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)

I bought St. Julian on the strength of a newspaper review and goddamn if it wasn't the most amazing thing I'd ever heard -- both just like the classic rock I was listening to and also totally not -- it rewired me

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:49 (eight years ago)

he is absolutely one of the greats (imago canon)

imago, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:27 (eight years ago)

Teardrop Explodes at the time were Duran Duran level huge in the UK, no? He was pop pinup for sure.

neither he nor the teardrops were ever really household names.

new noise, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:30 (eight years ago)

When "Try try try" came out, I got a postcard from "KAK' promotions from Julian Cope basically bigging it up excitedly. I was more "Hey, its nice but aren't you more out-there than this?"

(I didn't write back, that's not what I mean)

Anyway, he did do TOTP. with Try*3 and he looked happy doing it. I think it was the last time he did the pop single hit thing, but hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:41 (eight years ago)

Planetary Sit-In seems like another stab at it

PaulTMA, Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:56 (eight years ago)

Anyway, he did do TOTP. with Try*3 and he looked happy doing it

Little did I know!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 24 August 2017 03:52 (eight years ago)


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