Kanye West, Yeezus, 6/18/13 (TBC because who knows anymore)

but ye is always looking for the good girl, the one like his moms but he keeps fucking it up because he's a dirtbag that's sending hoodrats pictures of his dick or it gets fucked up for him because desolation of fame and fucked up reality of social relationship or the bitches lie to their lawyers about him.

Kanye really raps about alimony and women being horrible a lot for a guy who has never been married, to our knowledge has one kid, is in a relationship, and was raised by a single mom who he really loved

― mh, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:56 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know, right. really jarring after the first album kanye who'd say to his pre-fame girlfriend's dead father "I do plan to marry your daughter, and you know I gotta thank you for the way that she was brought up."

he sounds like an insane person on this album tbh... all over the place and the stuff he says is incoherent, though passionate. i think that is part of the deal with this album?

Kanye really raps about alimony and women being horrible a lot for a guy who has never been married, to our knowledge has one kid, is in a relationship, and was raised by a single mom who he really loved

― mh, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:56 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's almost like people overstate how personal and autobiographical kanye's music is

he does sound really coke-y. kanye. not nas.

i obviously have no idea if he does a lot of coke, but he SOUNDS like someone who does.

if the lyrics about that stuff aren't autobiographical, that just further raises the question of why a guy who hasn't had those kinds of experiences with women seems so preoccupied with it in his writing

exactly!

He's not queer?

what's up with kanye? is he into coke? is he on drugs? is he gay?

What about the voice of Geddy Lee? How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?

this is where someone asks factcheckincuz to come to the thread but we've done that one before.

he just sounds batty and scattered and messed up. he should be happy. why no happy?

I've never gotten that impression from factcheckincuz's posts.

too bad he doesn't just make music for people. if someone cool were rappin' over this stuff i would like it a lot more. i do like the demented music. i have no doubt that it sounds like hell - sonically - on cd though. most mod cds do sound like hell.

lol Dylannn nice

if the lyrics about that stuff aren't autobiographical, that just further raises the question of why a guy who hasn't had those kinds of experiences with women seems so preoccupied with it in his writing

i just take that as kanye buying into hip-hop's love of asshole behaviour. anything to avoid being seen as 'soft', etc. funny how the guy who said rappers needed to check their homophobia is fine with being misogynistic.

kanye is pro-dick

i just take that as kanye buying into hip-hop's love of asshole behaviour. anything to avoid being seen as 'soft', etc.

― StillAdvance, Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:07 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah

Good review, some dude.

I really want to dress up as Yeezus for a Gods and Goddesses themed party I'm attending this weekend. But I don't think I can pull it off. White dude, long hair, and too poor to buy anything that would remotely resemble his more outrageous outfits (jeans and t-shirt w/ chain are not enough).

pick up a leather skirt

where's some dude's review??

http://blogs.citypaper.com/noise/index.php/2013/06/album-review-yeezus-by-kanye-west/

thx!

ha that was the best line from dewey cox some dude, good job

The croissants line is so ridiculous, it could easily have been in a Lonely Island song. Something about the delivery—you can imagine him sitting in a french restaurant with Adam Samberg nodding along.

Nah. I can imagine him sitting in a French restaurant shouting at the croissant for not being a Grammy.

...while across the room the Dixie Chicks and Rick Rubin eat their Grammy croissants together.

i hear a lot of peter gabriel in kanye's production often, especially this album. has he ever mentioned him as an influence at all?

I can't imagine the horror of a "San Jacinto" cover:

I WALK THE LINE (BOOM)

You really can't imagine it if you think that lyric is in "San Jacinto"

Not my fault he's English.

Increasingly, Kanye West’s lyrics feel like the result of a gross misunderstanding of the phrase “the personal is political”: the rampant use of imagery loaded with poignant historical context in service of mainly describing the life of a drugged out, oversexed celebrity.

so otm with this. all that stuff on this album is pretty gross to me.

that said the first four tracks get me pretty amped before "Hold My Liquor" kills the thing dead. never really recovers except for Send It Up.

I like that weird outro at the end of New Slaves ...

most of the quick cuts really work for me (the New Slaves outro, the psychedelic gospel part in "On Sight") but the two different parts of Bound 2 make no sense together

dig the first half of this (including "hold my liquor", which slows things down but holds my attention completely). after that, it gets draggy, with only "bound 2" perking things up.

it's a fascinating album, but i think i'm hitting the wall on the entertainment value of gross, self-centered, asshole bullshit.

i think the question with this is if i'm going to feel like listening to it the number of times that will be required to figure out if there's any coherence at all

so... are you going to feel like listening to it once?

i did, and i'm undecided about twice.

i don't think this is lyrically very coherent at all. i've listened to "New Slaves" and "Blood On The Leaves" many times and still only have the broadest idea of what Kanye is trying to say in those songs beyond raising the general subject matter.

i think the album is *about* its contradictions... how the lines between political and personal outrage are always getting crossed, how righteous anger (against racism) and prejudicial anger (against women) can feel similar when you are a narcissist out of your mind on cocaine. i don't know or care if any of this is intentional, but to me that's what it sounds like: an exploration of bitterness and anger and of what happens when you indulge these things past the point of sanity. what i have taken away from it is that sometimes the fantasy worlds we construct for ourselves -- ostensibly to make us feel better about ourselves, our successes and failures -- can be the worst place of all for us to live.

i think kanye undermines his political messages by framing them in this way, which is more than a shame, because the prison industrial complex and its connection to the legacy of racism in america is a very real, very urgent thing. but all of kanye's work is confessional, it's just the kind of art he makes.

i don't think this is lyrically very coherent at all. i've listened to "New Slaves" and "Blood On The Leaves" many times and still only have the broadest idea of what Kanye is trying to say in those songs beyond raising the general subject matter.

― some dude, Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:41 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yr review i suspect is a completely apt takedown of the lyrics. for me, there's no reason i'd want to listen to anything kanye has to say in 2013 and this should purely be an album of aural/production pleasures. but his voice seems mixed so high that i kept getting distracted by it.

Not sure in what way "New Slaves" is incoherent.

i feel like this is nowhere near as 'you have to care about kanye' in a TMZ way as '808s' was.

like at this point it's more you can't separate kanye

Used to only be niggas now everybody playing
Spending everything on Alexander Wang
New Slaves

ok, like this part, is this a play on 'slave to fashion'? is he saying that all the luxury brand stuff he's been championing for years is a bad thing? is he saying fashion/trends make slaves of people besides blacks who are descended from slaves? or that people are jumping on a bandwagon that he started/has been on? the whole thing is, if not incoherent, then at least hard to parse for me.

ok, like this part, is this a play on 'slave to fashion'?

yes

is he saying that all the luxury brand stuff he's been championing for years is a bad thing?

yes

is he saying fashion/trends make slaves of people besides blacks who are descended from slaves?

yes

or that people are jumping on a bandwagon that he started/has been on?

maybe, but that's kind of an immaterial reference in the context of the rest of the verse so I'm inclined to say no

ok, like this part, is this a play on 'slave to fashion'?

Yeah. The song to me depicts how black Americans form part of a consumer industry that, according to Kanye, still exploits them yet they (the black American men) go along with it.

ok thx djp genius

i guess i have trouble reconciling that with kanye continuing to walk around in alexander wang and brag about other brands in an un-critical way but i guess that's why kanye is "interesting" or w/e

i feel like this is nowhere near as 'you have to care about kanye' in a TMZ way as '808s' was.

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:01 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hmm, i get this, i guess on first blush 808s was a little more universal (in that we've all experienced a bad breakup) whereas this.....is not