Kanye West, Yeezus, 6/18/13 (TBC because who knows anymore)

i agree with al's review, kris' review, and dombal's review.

this shit is like a fucking prism for opinions, it projects back out what it takes in, or something

had roughly the same experience as other folks on this thread listening to this for the first time this morning. The first bunch of songs come out the gate quickly and hit hard and then it's like the whole album gets bogged down. I'm hoping the back half picks up a bit.

I really like what he's doing with the production on this, but then I'm a sucker for electronic nonsense.

i disliked this greatly on first listen but it has grown on me through its many, many flaws

i have no idea why lots of ppl are itt separating the first 4 songs from the remainder like there's some huge tonal/quality divide where there's absolutely none, y'all did the same thing for the last animal collective record and it was weird then too.

obv yeezus >>>>> centipede whatevz

AmCo record had no songs about fisting and sweet 'n' sour pussy iirc

but what if it did

#1 with a bullet

"i'm in it" is gross and also probably my favorite song on the album after "new slaves"

the coda on "New Slaves" throws up a wall between the first four songs and the rest of the album and the final six songs aren't strong enough as a set to regain the goodwill set by the first four until the end of "New Slaves" happens and you roll your eyes so hard that you pull every muscle in your head

i really liked hua hsu's commentary on the coda to new slaves from the grantland piece:

"I see the blood on the leaves," Kanye spits, over and over. It’s not all his. As he approaches full Boucher, no windows are smashed, nothing is torn apart, no chains are broken. But he doesn’t sound like a slave anymore. Instead, a way out: drums roll, the clouds part, strings swell, and Kanye sings, clear-eyed and full-hearted, that he can’t lose, there’s no way he will lose. Elsewhere on Yeezus, these midsong eccentricities can feel like self-sabotage. As Frank Ocean retraces Kanye’s words, it feels glorious, divine, mysterious, senselessly bright. Yeezus drops tomorrow; Wednesday is Juneteenth.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/79678/the-book-of-yeezus-a-song-by-song-analysis-of-kanye-wests-new-album

the coda on "New Slaves" throws up a wall between the first four songs and the rest of the album and the final six songs aren't strong enough as a set to regain the goodwill set by the first four until the end of "New Slaves" happens and you roll your eyes so hard that you pull every muscle in your head

^^^ should be a line in a review

I don't know about the clear-eyed and full-hearted part.

it's a reference

xxp: needs editing, should say "... regain the goodwill squandered when the end of 'New Slaves' happens and..."

do people hate that coda? i think it's nice or "whatever" at worst

ever since 'fergalicious' i am basically a fan of any song that pulls that kind of switch, in fact, the more switches the better

I don't know about people in general but I hate that coda and I feel like the songs that immediately follow it come across as more aimless than they would have had "New Slaves" ended differently

but i hate noisy rap production and anything that people compare to "industrial." the first half sounds like fuckin marilyn manson.

for better or for worse that's kinda the direction kanye's been taking the ship since 'mercy' and 'clique'

and i guess, monster

but i hate noisy rap production and anything that people compare to "industrial."

as a fervent Bomb Squad devotee, I find this attitude depressing

Kanye Depressed

unrepentant geir hongro of rap production. the drums on "black skinhead" make me physically ill.

Think one of the few things I haven't seen covered much is Kanye's delivery - it's SO urgent on the first 4 tracks and then it really dissipates - not entirely but enough to gradually sink the album. He sounds like he's in such a hurry on the first 4, then it sounds like he's rambling around aimlessly.

I've often found w/kanye that the most eyerolly lines, the ones that stick out as mockable, end up being on my fav songs, and that's the case thru the first 4 trax...his delivery overrides the rational ugliness of the croissants and the hampton spouse. And actually because his narratives here are either boring (american psycho played out) or gross or have these awful swaghili puns, the album's v reliant on his delivery to carry them

DJP OTM re: bomb squad

I honestly like Kanye much better in electro mode than in recycled soul sample mode, so that's why I respond so highly to the earlier tracks.

I don't mind that coda on New Slaves, but it just signals a big downshift in energy for the record overall.

airhorn thing on "send it up" is pretty bomb squad-y

that is my favorite part of that song, unsurprisingly

i really really love when the beenie man sample (?) comes in at the end of "send it up"

agreed

listening to it now, and while he's a more striking arranger and a far more memorable lyricist, this does remind me of mid-'00s Beck in its vaguely dystopian soundscapes and synthesis of early modes.

and that, at this point, you're either on board and giving a shit or you're not

seems like a lot of people are on board. slow month i guess.

he's the great uniter, apparently, in crit-land. 20somethings to 50somethings gushing about this record.

yeah its weird

eh i can't begrudge what people who have to get excited about new music get excited about when i don't have a genuine alternative to suggest

white black straight gay everyone loves dicks.

yeah as RAM hype dies down this seems like a good hype train to transfer onto

idk it kinda seems to be judging by checking out ktt and some other forums that there's a bit of a disconnect between the wildly effusive praise from critics and the more mixed (tho still positive) reaction from fans.

like critics are stanning harder than most of his stans right now

There are some reviews which are sort of 6-7-8's - ie Slant, Chicago tribune, New york times, Paste, Pop matters...... the praise is less effusive than last record.

i think the critics did that with MBDTF too (10.0!), but there were probably enough pop-tracks for fans to latch onto xp

I think there is much hyperbole about the hyperbole on this board.

this sounds like the last xiu xiu record

lol otm

i mean i checked out at fabulous muscles but otm in that this is a xiu xiu record

Production-wise, has anyone brought up El-P yet? Because that's what this electro hip-hop dystopia reminds me of.

el-p, death grips, MIA's maya, human after all. weirdly im also thinking of that second cadence weapon album on big dada too, specifically this song - http://bigdada.com/release/cadence-weapon/house-music. the album keeps making me think of a lot of indie rap-electronica things.

Saul Williams

re: xiu xiu - not that far off!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kju7qyQVWdI

The buzz around this record is really not that positive at all among rap fans whose view of the genre doesn't revolve around Kanye

Sounds like we've come full circle on Anticon stuff huh.