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― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
bently drinking cognac... refresh my memory there.
― dylannn, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
if the quietus are getting notified of the problem that they have some shitty reviews then idk why that is the only 404 error on their reviews page
― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
there it is
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 June 2013 17:48 (thirteen years ago)
Maybe I've missed (difficult keeping up with this thread) but I haven't read much discussion about the sound quality on this, I haven't seen any reviews mention it either. I know Kanye is gaining a reputation for brickwalling and the harshness of the EQ on MBDTW offended a lot of people. This new one is just terrible in that respect. Mad clipping all over the place, anything resembling a beat anywhere throughout is harsh to listen to. I managed to listen to the album for the first time on headphones whilst out and about today and it was a lot more bearable. I'm not sure I can listen to it on the stereo, if I push the volume up to a reasonable level things get messy and headache inducing. A shame because I think there's some great material on the album and some really inventive and layered production which deserves better.
I mean this is pretty shocking stuff http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=41051
― Internet Alan, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
dylannn do you really not remember this!? Govt. Names vs Kris Ex?
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:16 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, it was somewhere in the back of my mind and i found that while googling "kris ex ilm" just now-- i can't really remember what happened or find any other material on the topic. but i can't remember a drunk bentley.
― dylannn, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:27 (thirteen years ago)
iirc you deleted the gn post, so some of the details are lost to the sands of time, but the part where you made fun of the "as smooth as a bentley after a bottle cognac" line or w/e was hilarious
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:28 (thirteen years ago)
It was funniest because Oliver Wang was weighing in & you dropped the bentley drinking cognac line and Oliver was like
"O-Dub must contemplate."
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:35 (thirteen years ago)
i wonder what conclusion he reached.
kris ex is all right! i wish he had worked the term "bitch-baiting" into his kanye review.
― dylannn, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)
want to know what o-dub thinks about yeezus?
http://www.npr.org/2013/06/18/192776275/kanyes-yeezus-packs-a-bite
― dylannn, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:38 (thirteen years ago)
I guess I'm not surprised by the loudness and cliping, but on first listen it sounded much cleaner and less distorted than MBDTW
xpost to Internet Alan
― Moodles, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:41 (thirteen years ago)
i agree with al's review, kris' review, and dombal's review.
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:42 (thirteen years ago)
this shit is like a fucking prism for opinions, it projects back out what it takes in, or something
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:43 (thirteen years ago)
had roughly the same experience as other folks on this thread listening to this for the first time this morning. The first bunch of songs come out the gate quickly and hit hard and then it's like the whole album gets bogged down. I'm hoping the back half picks up a bit.
I really like what he's doing with the production on this, but then I'm a sucker for electronic nonsense.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 18:43 (thirteen years ago)
i disliked this greatly on first listen but it has grown on me through its many, many flaws
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:33 (thirteen years ago)
i have no idea why lots of ppl are itt separating the first 4 songs from the remainder like there's some huge tonal/quality divide where there's absolutely none, y'all did the same thing for the last animal collective record and it was weird then too.
obv yeezus >>>>> centipede whatevz
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:37 (thirteen years ago)
AmCo record had no songs about fisting and sweet 'n' sour pussy iirc
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:38 (thirteen years ago)
but what if it did
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:42 (thirteen years ago)
#1 with a bullet
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:42 (thirteen years ago)
"i'm in it" is gross and also probably my favorite song on the album after "new slaves"
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)
the coda on "New Slaves" throws up a wall between the first four songs and the rest of the album and the final six songs aren't strong enough as a set to regain the goodwill set by the first four until the end of "New Slaves" happens and you roll your eyes so hard that you pull every muscle in your head
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:44 (thirteen years ago)
i really liked hua hsu's commentary on the coda to new slaves from the grantland piece:
"I see the blood on the leaves," Kanye spits, over and over. It’s not all his. As he approaches full Boucher, no windows are smashed, nothing is torn apart, no chains are broken. But he doesn’t sound like a slave anymore. Instead, a way out: drums roll, the clouds part, strings swell, and Kanye sings, clear-eyed and full-hearted, that he can’t lose, there’s no way he will lose. Elsewhere on Yeezus, these midsong eccentricities can feel like self-sabotage. As Frank Ocean retraces Kanye’s words, it feels glorious, divine, mysterious, senselessly bright. Yeezus drops tomorrow; Wednesday is Juneteenth.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/79678/the-book-of-yeezus-a-song-by-song-analysis-of-kanye-wests-new-album
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
^^^ should be a line in a review
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:48 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know about the clear-eyed and full-hearted part.
it's a reference
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:49 (thirteen years ago)
xxp: needs editing, should say "... regain the goodwill squandered when the end of 'New Slaves' happens and..."
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
do people hate that coda? i think it's nice or "whatever" at worst
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
ever since 'fergalicious' i am basically a fan of any song that pulls that kind of switch, in fact, the more switches the better
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know about people in general but I hate that coda and I feel like the songs that immediately follow it come across as more aimless than they would have had "New Slaves" ended differently
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
but i hate noisy rap production and anything that people compare to "industrial." the first half sounds like fuckin marilyn manson.
― dylannn, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
for better or for worse that's kinda the direction kanye's been taking the ship since 'mercy' and 'clique'
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)
and i guess, monster
but i hate noisy rap production and anything that people compare to "industrial."
as a fervent Bomb Squad devotee, I find this attitude depressing
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 19:59 (thirteen years ago)
Kanye Depressed
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:00 (thirteen years ago)
unrepentant geir hongro of rap production. the drums on "black skinhead" make me physically ill.
― dylannn, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
Think one of the few things I haven't seen covered much is Kanye's delivery - it's SO urgent on the first 4 tracks and then it really dissipates - not entirely but enough to gradually sink the album. He sounds like he's in such a hurry on the first 4, then it sounds like he's rambling around aimlessly.
I've often found w/kanye that the most eyerolly lines, the ones that stick out as mockable, end up being on my fav songs, and that's the case thru the first 4 trax...his delivery overrides the rational ugliness of the croissants and the hampton spouse. And actually because his narratives here are either boring (american psycho played out) or gross or have these awful swaghili puns, the album's v reliant on his delivery to carry them
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)
DJP OTM re: bomb squad
I honestly like Kanye much better in electro mode than in recycled soul sample mode, so that's why I respond so highly to the earlier tracks.
I don't mind that coda on New Slaves, but it just signals a big downshift in energy for the record overall.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
airhorn thing on "send it up" is pretty bomb squad-y
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)
that is my favorite part of that song, unsurprisingly
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
i really really love when the beenie man sample (?) comes in at the end of "send it up"
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)
agreed
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
listening to it now, and while he's a more striking arranger and a far more memorable lyricist, this does remind me of mid-'00s Beck in its vaguely dystopian soundscapes and synthesis of early modes.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)
and that, at this point, you're either on board and giving a shit or you're not
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)
seems like a lot of people are on board. slow month i guess.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)
he's the great uniter, apparently, in crit-land. 20somethings to 50somethings gushing about this record.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)
yeah its weird
― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
eh i can't begrudge what people who have to get excited about new music get excited about when i don't have a genuine alternative to suggest
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:34 (thirteen years ago)
white black straight gay everyone loves dicks.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)
yeah as RAM hype dies down this seems like a good hype train to transfer onto
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)