the 1975

More than anything I hear the shoegaze (line of descent via Kitchens of Distinction, though, who were always outliers in their own realm). But yes, good stuff so far here; I admit the name put me off.

Maybe due to age/different reference points but I'm tending to hear things like KoD (and before them, Echo, a hair) as well as chirpy early/mid nineties indie pop on Spinart that wasn't Elephant 6. Stuff like Poole and the like. Not JUSt that, obv., but it's a nice riff on the whole 'big music' trope that has something more sprightly to it than a lot of other bands working out there.

I'm kinda catching some prime-time 3rd Eye Blind vibes on The City

back to celebrate how otm this is, down to the delivery, especially in this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAcojLygGHg

i have had a lot of promo emails re this crew - something that always makes me suspicious.
clearly there is a degree of some major funding here.
so far i am still on the fence re the music : generic indie + current world studio tricks.
which is not a bad thing per se (memories of custom blue/south ... ) , just that i aint clicking with what i have heard so far.
in a few weeks they are playing a festival that me and the gang are off to, so that may provide more insight as to whether they are worthy of my attention or not ..

I'm going to continue ignoring any comparisons to 3EB so I may enjoy this band.

never heard any 3eb ...
clearly i have lived a charmed life.

nah, only semi

Haha

man ned i kind of want to convince you that you'd like the first 3eb record

I suffered through it and them being big at the time! Some things aren't worth the revisiting!

I still remember some comments around then going "Well think of them as a pop Pavement" and I'm all "...you really don't know me that well, do you."

"Pop Pavement"... I don't even know what that means

ahahaha neither do i, but i feel you ned

It was a strange time.

This music is so allusive of different reference points that are hard to reconcile together. Third Eye Blind, yes - the chorus on "Chocolate" being the other obvious orbital crossover point. Edward O says Robbie Williams for some tracks! Some of the more ambient stuff makes me think of A Mountain of One if they'd gone more pop and less pachouli. Ned says 80s "big music" generally but then also Kitchens of Distinction which I def. hear, and then makes me think of The House of Love a bit. But I also hear Placebo in their emoness and open searching for different ways to be big. And then of course (crossover) emo generally.

Also I don't think this is even out yet but it takes the nascent 80s pop influence to new levels, feels like something from a big Hollywood soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b77_BS9Pww0

when i first heard "sex" i was like "okay post-punk bassline, crossover emo everything else"

yeah totally

It also occurs to me that this band could have played every night at The Bronze and handily catered to any and every mood required by the narrative.

I'm kinda catching some prime-time 3rd Eye Blind vibes on The City

back to celebrate how otm this is, down to the delivery, especially in this track

Oh for sure, hearing 3EB all over these guys work now (sorry Ned, it cant be denied). Was trying to figure out remember the sample source for that song you posted and figured it out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Gvptdghwo
which samples the last 40 seconds of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-3N7TBrfOA

hearing 3EB all over these guys work now (sorry Ned, it cant be denied)

The advantage of their heyday being a dim, murky horror of shitbaggery means I can listen to the 1975 without such trammeling, for which I am eternally grateful.

holy shit that's a dilla/laura nyro interpolation?

officially i think this band is smart as hell

lol Ned

The "Under our pet-ee-coats" line in "chocolate" is so well enunciated

http://i.imgur.com/OEngTOA.jpg

1. The 1975
2. The City
3. MONEY
4. Chocolate
5. Sex
6. Talk!
7. An Encounter
8. Heart Out
9. Settle Down
10. Robbers
11. Girls
12. 12
13. She Way Out
14. Menswear
15. Pressure
16. Is There Somebody Who Can Watch You?

out sept. 9th. 16 tracks feels like a bit much. feel really bad for "milk" and "you"

I feel bad for everything on the EPs that was not a single.

I hope they don't deprioritise their lush romambience side on the album in a bid for UK indie royalty status.

let's do this

I hope they don't deprioritise their lush romambience side on the album in a bid for UK indie royalty status.

same. when i fell in love with "sex" i had a "what the hell is this shit" reaction to the rest of the ep and man i was so wrong

OMG every single thing on that EP.

I feel like we haven't talked enough about their lyrics yet. So many awesome moments.

"She should 'use your hands in my spare time / we've got one thing in common, it's this tongue of mine'"

"Drink, f**k, spew... telephone you"

i can't exist within my own head
so i exist alone in your bed

actually that might be "so i insist on haunting your bed" which, differently good

"oh well i'm coming to the end of 23," she said, "is that all right?"
"and it's coming to the end of you and me," she said, "is that all right?"
how can you complain about life and talk about being bored
if you just sit at pete's house playing video games, doing sniff that you can't afford

i was late but i arrived
i’m sorry but I’d rather be getting high than watching my family die

i could do this for a while haha

"Now I'm not trying to stop you, love / If we can't do anything we might as well just f**k"

""Oh I think I did something terrible to your body, don’t you mind? / I put your mother through hell, don’t you mind? / I had your brother as well, don’t you mind? Don’t you mind?"

(might be "I hurt your brother as well", not sure)

oh i was thinking 'bout killing myself, don't you mind?
i love you, don't you mind? don't you mind?

NONE MORE EMO

PUMPT FOR ALBUM

these guys were awesome live. they opened with "head.cars.bending" which i thought might not function live but it was massive. they played about half new songs, all of which sounded great, one of which kind of sounded like paramore's "ain't it fun" as performed by a slightly funkier blue nile, another ("settle down," i think) which gorgeously mined the same kind of gauzy fake u2 as "you"

oh i guess via setlist.fm that cute jam/lewis/blue nile song is called "heart out"

listening to the ep and yep, i'm sold on this - "me" is definitely hitting some kind of blue nile sweet-spot for me

kind of sounded like paramore's "ain't it fun" as performed by a slightly funkier blue nile

Geeked up for this even more now

re: "me"

The idea for ‘don’t you mind’ came quite naturally. I was i the process of writing this song and i found myself listening to that 10cc record ‘I’m not in love’. In that song the words ‘I’m not in love’ are used so frequently; as such a statement, that by the last chorus you think ‘….this guy is really in love’.

"And why stay if you hate it so much? You think you're well cool / You just write about sex and killing yourself and how you hardly ever went to school"

Funny how whether or not a band could have played the Bronze is an instantly recognizable descriptor. (Although it also makes me feel a bit old).

haha at least by understanding you make me feel less simultaneously old/weird

btw they totally rerecorded "sex" for the album

https://soundcloud.com/the1975/the-1975-sex

it sounds... cleaner. in a good way!

idk i probably prefer the original tho

OG version is better but this is fine

Sep 9th is too far away.

They played People too

loved the Glasto show

admit i was a bit worried but it turned out all i had to worry about was Matty maybe tripping over on the travelator & glassing himself w his guinness

https://www.reddit.com/r/the1975/comments/1oo7g6r/comment/nn47wix/

???

i mean i don't really rate "human too" either but why is he doing this

never heard of such a thing lol. song was kind of mid tho

another thing Kanye has to answer for

It wasn’t even funny in English

Leave “what should I say” fuck alone though mate

for real…

I'm glad he clarified that he hasn't removed it from people's vinyl or cd versions

This is so weird.

Given how, er, inconsistent, many artists are at judging past works and what may or may not have connected with their fans, I really hope this doesn't become a common thing. I mean, I can easily imagine Billy Corgan, as one example, going all George Lucas and destroying the actually great Pumpkins records.

In other words, physical media 4-EVA.

that thing you can easily imagine of billy corgan has already happened, like there are really subtle differences in most(?) of the pumpkins reissues

right, i just mean more obliterating the digital presence of the original versions while he's at it, unless that has already happened

i'm somewhat speculating here because i don't actually know how the process of post-release alteration works but the 1975 license their music to interscope thru the label they functionally own so i think they have more direct control over their music than do artists who are in more standard record deals. to use billy corgan as an example, i don't think he would have the ability on a purely functional level to wake up one day and decide to alter tracklists on streaming the same way that i think the 1975 can access the back end buttons that allow them to outright delete songs. artists don't have that level of access to their music if it's going thru a label. if you're uploading it yourself thru a distributor like distrokid or whatever then you do but once you sign a deal a label is taking over the process, except probably in the case of a dirty hit where you have a label that is essentially using the major as a distributor. in the case of artists like kanye or others who have altered albums in the week or two post release they are working with a label that is motivated in that time period to get the album "right" but if kanye wanted to delete a song off college dropout tomorrow he would have to request that def jam do it for him, and i'm not sure i foresee a future where labels are in the business of routinely fielding and executing such requests for artists, tho i may be wrong and it would prob be on a case by case basis in terms of leverage/power possessed by the artist etc

I'm all too familiar with this process - Zappa re-recording parts of the old Mothers Of Invention albums, Merzbow deleting the recordings that credit his ex-wife.

I am always 100$ against it.

lol 100%

but I probably had to pay $100 to get the original Mothers LPs and not the weird altered reissues

actually - didn't ZZ Top do this with some of their reissues ?
i.e. totally changed the way their albums sounded ?
surely there is a thread re such revisions on ilm ?

Reminds of the Jens re-recordings. RIP Black Cab.

you guys are talking about a totally different thing now…..

more comparable: bowie removing that one song from future reissues of never let me down

ok so their social media seems to be wiped clean (I think this might have been done awhile ago actually) and Dirty Hit just posted what seems to be a breakup announcement, or not, in the band’s usual cryptic style

nm it’s a promo from the I Like It When You Sleep era, false alarm lol