Kanye West, Yeezus, 6/18/13 (TBC because who knows anymore)

Hoping to see Ye trying his utmost to outdo Jay with a song for his new baby daughter

you're my child with the child from Destiny's Child! you're my Kardashian that I'll keep up with after getting all up in the Kardashian from Keeping Up With The Kardashians!

Projected on the Field Museum last night:

https://vine.co/v/hBib51OP0Ow

projected in williamsburg bk last night too

Can't get the hook to "On Site" out of my head today - totally incongruous to shopping at Target

I just read the last 1/3 of this thread while forgetting that "Shaking the Habitual" was the recent Knife album, thought it was some sort of Jane's Addiction reference, and was kind of disgusted by the tendency of threads to veer off into irrelevant comparisons that only make personal sense to the writer.

well, maybe I still have that

god, bonnie bear's white dude in the old man hat voice is such a buzzkill

dude, it's boney bear, show some respect

saw him on SNL, uhhhhhh

frog time machine go

first four tracks are pretty much fire, i love the LOUDNESS and unrelenting RARRGHHHH, though with a caveat or two

"hold my liquor" and "bound 2" are the only ones i'll straight-up dismiss on two listens - the former is incredibly annoying and dull, the latter is just sort of a much-less-good version of "homecoming", "gone" etc

"blood on the leaves" is...something. definitely something. i kind of like the question "what if 808s was primal and visceral rather than sadsack mopey" but i also kind of want to back away slowly from it

in general i agree that after the first four tracks the rest of the album is disappointing but the production's interesting and a lot of it is saved by the dancehall

i really hate the line "hurry up with my damn croissants", really really hate it, i just imagine entitled bankers and frat boys yelling it at lowly-paid serving staff and thinking they're really funny. this type of shit has to be directed upwards or possibly at a peer otherwise it's just gross

the sweet & sour sauce line is also gross obviously but idk the impending memeification of the croissants line gives me the absolute shivers

idk the impending memeification of the croissants line gives me the absolute shivers

board description?

What I like about the croissants line is that it is pretty much the most un-godlike thing one could say.

my interest in 'blood on the leaves' kinda faded when i realised he wasnt shouting IT CAME OUT YOUR BODYYYY. loses that xtra cronenberg immediacy layer

out of, guh

What I like about the croissants line is that it is pretty much the most un-godlike thing one could say.

slowly coming around to "hold my liquor" after thinking it was by far the low point before. folks keep talking about the second half being disappointing but iono "Send it Up" is just as good as the first few songs

send half, starting with "hold my liquor" is where the magic is

"Send It Up" and "Bound 2" are prob my favorite songs, but the middle section gets pretty gross

'bound 2' is a gladdening throwback on its own but just feels kinda sad to me at the end of all that

ehh it feels refreshing at the end of the album for me, less for the zzz soul sample than for a song about relationships/women that isn't all fisting and lynching

that was my initial reaction but once i started thinking of it in the lineage of previous throwbacky/celebratory kanye album closers it palled rather (nb i love "gone" and "homecoming" a great deal)

never figured you for a fan of the coldplay song

I think that's precisely what makes "Bound 2" a failure for me: after an album of rough sex it comes off sentimental, to prove that Deep Down what Ye wants is Love.

i think that's pretty present throughout the album

also very fond of "hold my liquor", one of Kanye's finest achievements imo. The guitars kill me (softly, actually) in combination with the rest. I'm very surprised that Daft Punk were apparently not involved in this. Plus, the Corolla line. Traces of actual storytelling. "Soulmates became soulless" etc. etc.

the song really isn't that saccharine if you actually listen to the lyrics! it's just...not about profound emotional betrayal and ass eating. (xp)

and I'm not suggesting rough sex and Real Love are a binary.

never figured you for a fan of the coldplay song

oh this surprised me too, it just really works. though tbh it's pretty obv that triumphalist/sentimental corn and coldplay go together

what do (co.) and (add.) mean on the production credits (here: http://nahright.com/news/2013/06/14/kanye-west-yeezus-tracklist/)?

co producer, additional production?

not surprisingly i love this now that i've heard it. it doesn't seem particularly amelodic to me but maybe that's just me. "blood on the leaves" and "guilt trip" are my least favorite because emo autotune warbling kanye is my least favorite kanye but they both still have interesting aspects.

those credits are likely wrong

guess Iamsu's contribution got lost somewhere along the way

HBK Iamsu! @IAMSU

This foo ye got my verse sounding crazy! #Yeezus

0:31 PM - 10 Jun 13

oh ok. i was looking bc it was interesting listening to this not knowing who produced what or who the guests are and trying to figure it out.

those credits are likely wrong

it's quite funny that no one even knows the proper credited features yet. like, there even seems to be confusion over whether it's "bound" or "bound 2"

i think he's posting the full credits online tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iszwuX1AK6A

So is "Bound 2" a bummer simply due to its placement in the tracklisting? It's to abrupt of a send off, but it's a great song on its own, and it's one of those that I correctly assumed would be a huge grower for me. Most of the 2nd half only took 3-4 listens.

I'm also still at the point where a lot of this is getting mashed together in my head. I keep hearing "I Am a God" lyrics over the "On Sight" beat.

all the tracklisting keep leaving assassin/agent sasco uncredited for his fairly substantial verse on 'I'm In It' - unless it's a sample like the Beenie Man one on 'Send It Up' or Popcaan on 'Guilt Trip' or Capleton on 'I Am a God' but I think it's a proper verse of its own...

yeah i was wondering about that too

I like the croissants like because it made me laugh, I dont think you can worry too much about douchebags being douchebags because they always will be and will find something to latch on to

Also a large part of Kanye's music is in it being music *for* douchebags: I remember when I went to see Watch the Throne there was a guy who was suddenly got so in to Runaway, he was singing along to every single line and holding his arms aloft in ecstasy like it was the all time jam of his life

so i haven't really been paying attention but when did he stop trying so hard with the whole uh rapping thing? like, years ago? just remember him being pretty wordy and even clever. now he really does sound like a record producer rapping.

i listened to most of this on youtube. sounds like a decent mixtape. i read reviews that call the music "wildly experimental" and it makes me feel really jaded or something. he's always had kind of a quirky/weird ear. still love kendrick's alcohol song way more than kanye's liquor one. they both even give a shout-out to chicago at the beginning of both songs.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/06/14/the-inside-story-of-kanye-wests-yeezus/

RReginald wrote:

Kanye West is LL Cool J with more money. It’s the same tired old 16 year-old mentality rap that stopped being shocking or interesting in the 90s. if you want to listen to good rap look for lyrical depth and any sign that the rapper has moved on from high school. Look for rappers that have something to say other than how big their dick is. Look for rappers that don’t engage in misogyny and homophobia that plague the black community. Look for rappers that talk about the real problems the black community faces instead of throwing tantrums about their agents. Look for grown ups and not spoiled children. Kayne West is indicative of everything wrong in the black community.

Would love to hear the pre-Rubin version of "Bound."

still love kendrick's alcohol song way more than kanye's liquor one.

those are both prob the worst songs on their respective albums

"Five songs still needed vocals and two or three of them still needed lyrics. He said, “Don’t worry, I will score 40 points for you in the fourth quarter.” In the two hours before had to run out to catch the plane, he did exactly that: finished all lyrics and performed them with gusto."

sounds like it too. which isn't really a bad thing except for the bad lyrics. which is why it reminds me of a mixtape. get something done fast cuz i got places to go and people to do.

wonder if that ratatat dude did any production on "hold my liquor" bc the harmonized guitar parts sounds totally ratatat

really? you don't like swimming pools song? i liked it right away.