NO AGE

that's the second time that's been mentioned here. Maybe I haven't heard enough Japanther. I used to see them live when they started playing around NY and it never did much for me. I really don't have much interest in a lot of the bands working various post-no wave revival skronk/noise craziness, and I like No Age's balance between the utterly accessible and often beautiful ambient partts, and the also utterly accessible and totally catchy minimalist hardcore punk riffing.

Maybe I haven't heard enough Japanther.

nah you probably have

I guess the upthread poster was actually recommending japanther but chaki is just h8n

yah. sub japanther at best. dan i thought you had a better ear than this.

I can recommed a good ENT doctor, if you need one, Dan.

did u guys ever see when peter criss went to the ear doctor on 321 contact?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y4YM3fSbKQU

thats not it! the doctor said the cymbals were killing him.

yeah chaki my ears were destroyed...from having to sit through japanther at countless shows in brooklyn a few years ago.

"this is... a not joke"

just saw a clip of Japanther on the Death By Audio myspace page and sure, not that different from No Age and pretty good. There's a fine line between hyper distorted 90s indie rock and stuff that resonates more with punk from the past.

The 90's are the past!

the wounds are still healing though.

ok ok pretty fun

Are No Age a punk band? They seem more like 90s no-wave to me.

They are way more punk then 90s no-wave, which is why I like them. They have their ambient/noise intros and whatnot, but the heart of most songs are simple 2/3 chord riffs, the kinds that make me imagine young kids with skateboards stage-diving.

Hmm... going to see Jay Reatard, No Age, and Mika Miko at the Smell tonite... is this guy gonna be there?

http://www.theconnection.org/content/2005/07/19/0720newyorker173.gif

(...I hope so -- for once I won't feel like oldest / least hep dude @ the Smell)

I doubt it, he lives in New York. OBVIOUSLY.

Good point - he's probably more a Japanther fan

Meantime, what No Age were up to yesterday.

i don't want to hear this band. i'm protesting!

actually, sad to say, i think this is my one big prob with sasha's stuff. and i DO think he's a good writer and all that. but he never makes me want to hear something after i'm done reading a piece/review. which isn't his job or whatever. or is it? i read that thing last night and i wanted to be excited by it and i just got really bored. bored with their scene and their smell. and then they got on stage and the drummer played drums and the other guy played guitar and then the guy sang and it was as if they were doing it for their friends! fuck their friends. okay, i'm jealous. i have no friends. but still...zzzzzzzzz.....

eh

ah

Well the article was pretty boring.

I actually prefer Japanther too (esp. "Skuffed Up My Huffy"), though haven't seen them live yet

how in gods name can you enjoy japanther

Have you heard "Skuffed Up My Huffy"? They're pretty good songs!

(These are all bands that Mrs. Pavilion digs and got me into)

(By which I mean - I can't rep for them the same way I could with my own shit - but her taste may be better than mine, anyway)

Why is this thread so unsearchable?

Does anyone know anything about their Sub Pop deal? I assume it's for their next album (which will technically be their 1st, since "Weirdo Rippers" is a collection of singles - right?)...

Anyway, I still love this and think it might be my favorite of the year (it's almost definitely my most listened to album of the year).

I know, I search for weirdo rippers and there's a link to this thread from there.

Yeah I love this album. Completely devastated that I didn't see them when they played in dublin due to lack of funds, esp since I've seen some bands I'm not that bothered by.

My life's alright without you is still the one I love most.

This is pretty alright but I don't get this "no wave" talk at all. If not for the name, no one would make that connection right? Sounds more like pretty straight up punk/pop, in a good way. If there is such a thing...

I don't give a shit, It's just brilliant. Those sparkly blondie-ish melodies come come through the noise like it was an automatic slide door! Great guitar sound too.

hey! this is great! i only sort of hear the "no wave" thing, i think it's more pop than that, more jesus and mary chain perhaps. i am really digging this album, i just got it tonight. such big fuzzy riffs. so fun.

These guys suck.

no they good. (although the new yorker article made me think their scene might be kind of annoying and self-congratulatory if i lived in l.a. and was young enough to be in a scene. since neither of those things apply, i can just like the record.)

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isn't their name a reference to the SST record of the same name?

I'm getting so tired of this whole California scene (incl. Abe Vigoda) of kids who can't play worth a damn so they make it 'noisy' and 'punk'. We associate ourselves with the noise scene. Oh, it's okay then.

Yeah yeah, it's all community/live based. Who cares. What about the music?

isn't their name a reference to the SST record of the same name?

Yeah, they talked about it either in that New Yorker piece or in an old Vice interview - but at least one of the guys says he hates that album (to paraphrase, it's something like "Yeah, it's this SST comp where Greg Ginn made all the bands record instrumentals, and it's mostly pretty bad").

I want to hear that Abe Vigoda album. I like the bits I've heard so far. (Though people keep using the word 'Calypso' when they talk about them, which I haven't detected yet).

kids who can't play worth a damn

Huh?

As in, they can't play their instruments. They are very limited.

Skater punk? No age? The entire skate punk genre (in fact the entire skate culture) sure gives me associations to one particular age. Around 14-15 that is....

Check, please!

'No Age' the comp I assume was a riff on 'no wave' in the first place right?

As far as I can tell this band can 'play' perfectly adequately for what they're putting across, unless you're like some Dream Theater fan or something

Exactly. And what they're 'putting across' is:

dumbed-down punk
dumbed-down noise
dumbed-down hardcore

+ whatever else they have up their sleeve. And by dumbed down, yes I do mean texturally, compositionally. There ARE people in those genres who pay attention to those things...

I still don't really get what you're talking about. The drummer is great. The guitars are pretty. The lyrics are fun. The songs are catchy. Are you just saying you don't like this band?

Haha

Yes. I don't like this band. Sorry to ruin the parade.

Continue the 'fun'.

Hmm... going to see Jay Reatard, No Age, and Mika Miko at the Smell tonite... is this guy gonna be there?

:D :D :D :D :D :D MAY 6

Nouns:

01 Miner
02 Eraser
03 Teen Creeps
04 Things I Did When I Was Dead
05 Cappo
06 Keechie
07 Sleeper Hold
08 Errand Boy
09 Here Should Be My Home
10 Impossible Bouquet
11 Ripped Knees
12 Brain Burner

I can't wait for this. Weirdo Rippers is about 10000 times better than I thought it would be. The Skater Punk label is misleading. They're closer to Wire or My Bloody Valentine than to Suicidal Tendencies.

I hear early Pavement.

sleeper hold sounded great in that video from other music

I kinda wish they would continue in the same style of releasing several singles and then collecting them later for a full length I have the first 5 singles, but not Weirdo Rippers (because it's not on vinyl to my knowledge...right?), and I've gotten to really enjoy listening to them in 2 to 4 song bursts.

i kind of check in and out on this band but the vocals on the new one sound weird to me, like really dry and up front. have they been doing that for a while or is it new on this album?

tbh i think the vocals have always been a sticking point for me with no age, even though i love a lot of singers with "bad" voices

I like the new one, though feel like it hits its stride with the last three tracks. Which is kind of the opposite of 'Snares' for me. Need to spend more time with it.

^^^ otm. This is the first No Age I'm indifferent to.

I get what you mean. The vocal thing was actually a bugbear of mine with "Everything in Between" back in the day for similar reasons. Still never really got into that album.

An album poll could be fun.

haha eib my favourite no age record

When Randy from No Age and I collide:

https://podtail.com/en/podcast/hyphenate-with-randy-randall/hyphenate-ned-raggett/