The Sea and Cake: COD/SD etc. etc.

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my guess involved your old pet theory because the record sounds so much like that! but I don't quite follow you on this composition stuff. I was listening last night and noticing how lots of the songs tend to have a really serial form, in that they'll do something for a while, then do something else for a while, then something sort of ending-sounding (like the strings). that strikes me as not as 'compositional' as it could have been - could've been more done to unify those parts somehow. the end of the record trails off some for me, and I wonder if that isn't the reason why: without the tighter song structures gotten by putting those parts together, the songs just sound sort of directionless (not in the good stasisy way) when the parts aren't as good. 'faces and people' sounds like the ideal thing to have burst into a lazy, joyful indie-house-glitch-pop song, but then it just sort of repeats itself forever. that's kind of disappointing to me, though I got used to it. I find comparisons to gastr's camofleur instructive - I've seen it mentioned a lot in reviews. things that record does differently: the string-things-out compositional strategy is done by stringing DIFFERENT things out, letting the songs shift, rather than stringing out what sound like they could be extra layers in the same song. uh, sorry, I only had one thing in mind.

why doesn't prekop just make an all-bossa nova record?

Josh, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven months pass...
'one bedroom' is my new favorite song!!

ron (ron), Saturday, 18 January 2003 02:31 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
What time signature is the song "Biz" in?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

hee hee, mark greenberg's post up there fails to mention precious wax drippings.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 17 June 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

god the first album is fucking untouchably great

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

showboat angel! they never got fun like this again

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

How do you like the 2nd Prekop, Nitsuh?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

mark greenberg posted here? haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I really liked Oui.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
What time signature is the song "The Biz" in?

Help me out, Jaymc or Nitsuh or somebody. Still wondering about this.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's 15/8.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

(Alternating measures of 7 and 8 beats.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

No wonder I hurt myself trying to tap along to it.

Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

showboat angel! I say it again. So great!

akm, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

Revive!

I went to see the Sea and Cake at Cargo last night. It was great, really good, and the sound was fantastic. I wondered if the nuances of the records would come across live, but they did.

Anyway, I only have Oui (I went with a friend who is a big fan), so would anyone like to revisit the s/d part, and talk about the new album?

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

I like the new album a lot. They sound maybe a bit looser than they have in the past? But I think they sort of defy deep analysis. Nothing to dig in to.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

I love the new one. I'm not familiar with their back-catalogue, save that Bedroom-album, which I found so-so. But this one's so lush, full of joy-de-vivre, if I may say so. The Malipop-song "Exact to me" is stunning and my favourite of the album. Would love to see them live.

willem, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, there was one at the gig when I suddenly thought African pop! That must be "Exact to me" - that was a highlight along with a two-chord thing with the most amazing drumming that they played just before it - this fast disco hi-hat, snare, bassdrum pattern and then these incredible fills everywhere. Any idea what that one would have been?

I should just get the album.

The bass and drums really were brilliant - the songs, airy and light and pleasing as they are, sometimes just feel like a setting for the rhythm section, rather than the other way round.

They were entertainingly uncharismatic as well. Four people desperately looking anywhere apart from the audience. The bass player, who is now HUGE, looking like he was actually asleep - completely motionless apart from his fingers. It was cool.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, Eric Claridge. My brother and I used to imagine that, while the rest of the band was all playing in their side/solo projects, Eric Claridge was just sitting on his couch, glumly practicing bass.

jaymc, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

I was at that gig, too, Jamie.

'Uncharismatic' doesn't begin to describe them. At one stage, Archer asked Sam if he was enjoying himself. Sam mumbled something I couldn't make out but he didn't seem overly impressed with the idea of being on the stage.

there are indeed a couple of tracks on Everybody that have a bit of Afro hi-life guitar. I'm afraid I'm terrible at the names of tracks - most of my music listening takes place in my car!

The drummer was extraordinary wasn't he? Was that John McEntire? (sorry I'm not well up on this genre of music) The rhythm section is definitely a major joy in their music.

Everybody is much lighter than previous work, but it still complex and strange in parts. I found in the gig that because it is all so evenly paced and because so little was happening on stage I had to think about rhythms and voice onset and time signatures and all that kind of grown-up stuff!

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, Eric Claridge. My brother and I used to imagine that, while the rest of the band was all playing in their side/solo projects, Eric Claridge was just sitting on his couch, glumly practicing bass.

-- jaymc, Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

that's lame and condescending. eric's a really fantastic painter.

new record is really good, frankly i didn't think it would be. they were great live a couple weeks ago in new york, too.

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, I notice from Eric Claridge's site, that there's a painting of a squirrel holding a Swiss army knife. Charmingly, the Sea and Cake use that image on their merchandise.

Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

Lighten up stencil, jaymc and his brother were clearly joking.

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

not in the email i've got dated july 7, 2003

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

zung

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I see that both Tortoise and the Sea and Cake are on tour right now; which band is McEntire playing with? Anybody know?

kwhitehead, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

the sea and cake

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know about Claridge's painting career, dude.

jaymc, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

when did you 'discover' it?

okay, okay, i'll stop

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

please

strongohulkington, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.thrilljockey.com/catalog/index.html?id=103254
new album called Car Alarm to be released 2008-10-21

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 07:03 (seventeen years ago)

first album still my favorite by them, I don't think they'll ever top it.

akm, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 07:20 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know what their best album is but I know that everyone had some really good songs. Glass EP, for instance, was a great direction for The Sea and Cake but then they had to release Everybody next - I didnt really care for that album. But as far as mixtapes go, they have more than enough great material spanning their entire career. Archer Prewitt could easily have a greatest hits cd also even though he has only released 5 albums.

The Sea and Cake's lyrics have always been nice, abstract pleasantries that are unlike any other bands lyrics. There is a timeless quality to the lyrics since for the most part they don't make any sense and you can envision the story differently every time.

And Sam Prekop's voice is easy on the ears but always fresh and crispy nonetheless.

So yeah The Sea and Cake has always been in my top 10 band list.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 07:40 (seventeen years ago)

Still play & enjoy Everybody a lot. Should check out the debut I guess. Looking very much forward to Car Alarm. Although that blurb on the TJ site is a bit too much/elaborate I like the idea of them going straight into the studio after touring the last album and record the next in 3 months time.

willem, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 08:22 (seventeen years ago)

1) Nassau
2) The Fawn
3) The Biz

Arghn, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 11:32 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Car Alarm sounds the way I want it to so far :)))

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

did not know about this

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

As good as two gentlemen?

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

does louis jagger like these guys? they seem like his kinda thing, I'm kinda surprised that he hasn't contributed to this thread

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

Well I got 5 tracks out of 12 and Two Gentlemen isn't the one I listen to. I play random tracks so I wouldn't know. I just know this is better than Everybody. But I love the band nonetheless... it doesn't have poppy like singing as does "we come by when you say that, we come by, we come by when you say that, we come by" or Afternoon Speaker or Station In The Valley. It has the heavier guitars from everybody but they sound more like the traditional sea and cake sound "beachy"... and the singing sounds great even though not poppy so far (I've heard 5 tracks).

They are definitely my thing. I give the a big shiny star. Fuck Louis Jagger or whoever he is.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

I'd say if you like Two Gentlemen and havent tried Glass ep, go for it.
But this doesn't sound like those so much so far.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

I like glass fine, but it doesn't have Early Chicago and a brilliant cover.

I know, right?, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

I'll give those a go, I'll be jogging today with my ipod, might as well

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.wikiupload.com/download_page.php?id=50505
Here's just a small taste of the more technoish sound of one short track.
The other songs aren't like this though.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 19:48 (seventeen years ago)

everytime this thread pops up I'm compelled to say: SHOWBOAT ANGEL

akm, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^^^^^

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

Always hated this guy's insufferable vox.

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

I bet you like crappy music in general :[ Mr. Steve Hater

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:54 (seventeen years ago)

Where are you hearing this? I e-mailed Brent DiCrescenzo a few weeks ago after he reviewed "Car Alarm" (the song) in Time Out Chicago to see where I could find it. No dice.

jaymc, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

Soulseek, as a temporary mediator before I decide whether to purchase the album. Still stuck with only 5 songs though.

CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 21:09 (seventeen years ago)

an assassin followed by the transaction has always felt so emotionally satisfying to me. i think the transaction reminds me of new order’s regret and i’d been searching or just waiting for a song as good as regret for five years. my favorite record of theirs, well also the first one i bought by them, i think maybe nassau is betters (more dynamic and wide ranging) but the biz is my fave.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Sunday, 23 March 2025 04:51 (one year ago)

hey again. this revive has sent me back into their "middle period" albums. wistful sigh, friends. from the fawn through runner, this is stellar music all the way. idk what their best album is. they did so much music that is... i'm sorry, it's just fucking awesome music! the remixes on the eps are completely wild, their ballads are some of the most girgeous new americana i've ever heard, and have you heard "inn keeping"!??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F__3wRugDRM
...it's ten minutes long and it makes me cry! moonlight butterfly is so underrated!

s/t 4
nassau 4
biz 5
fawn 5
two gentlemen 3.5
oui 4
one bedroom 4
glass 4
everybody 4
car alarm 3.5
moonlight butterfly 4
runner 5
any day 3.5

they need a rarities compilation too, god dammit. there's at least another entire album's worth of non-lp material from 94-97. the extras from the everybody era are pure blissout goofaround fun.

f'kn band rules forever. kings.

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Monday, 24 March 2025 01:03 (one year ago)

Marked for future investigation. These last few posts, and now Austin's map to the catalogue, are real enticing. Thanks, you four.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 24 March 2025 01:29 (one year ago)

cheers to you, and me a decade ago:

they could really do with a rarities album.

― austinato (Austin), Wednesday, April 15, 2015 2:47 PM

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Monday, 24 March 2025 01:43 (one year ago)

thought i was done? nah.

As a matter of fact, they need to do a rarities compilation.

― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:37 AM

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Monday, 24 March 2025 01:46 (one year ago)

and yeah, going back through thread: frogs consistently otm for years at a time. good work, everyone! here's "an echo in" from the glass ep. it has wah-wah. alright!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ2FU6g098Q

Constance Mischievous (Austin), Monday, 24 March 2025 02:18 (one year ago)

Sounds like I ought to relisten to Runner then. I remember liking it fine but never really gave it a close listen. I do have on their latest record Any Day which is very nice. It took me a number of listens to really discern one song from another, but when you really dig into it there are some very pretty tunes on here. "Into Rain" for instance. And of course the title track. That said I do find myself wondering a lot, wait, don't they have a different song like this? Not in just the overall vibe but some of the specific chord changes. There's not really anything new on it, not that TSAC have ever really gone much out on a limb since One Bedroom, but still. Even the title of the record seems like a re-run. It's a good record but it doesn't really justify the long wait and the fact that they haven't done one since kinda confirms to me the band has faded out. There doesn't really seem to be a whole lot of interest in them either way; they've been a "secret handshake" band as long as I can remember. I still see people discovering this band every now and then, often with the same "where has this been my whole life?" reaction I had when I first encountered them (at 17, lol). There's still no one else out there who quite scratches that itch.

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 March 2025 13:50 (one year ago)


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