― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 09:52 (twenty-three years ago)
And then I wake up.
I had "All the best" on CD for many years, never listened to it, but I'll agree that "Venus and Mars" is a neglected classic, as is the first McCartney LP, very primitive but rather homely.
― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 17 February 2003 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)
I had dreams about WINGSPAN last night. or it featured in my last night's dreams. I think it was really big and cost one hundred and twenty-five pounds or twenty-five pounds and was sealed in plastic and didn't tell me the tracklisting.
record shopping w/ allyC, yesterday, we saw many mccartney/wings albums. WINGS AT THE SPEED OF SOUND looked OK but was on cassette and three pounds fifty.
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)
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― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)
Does anyone else like 'Hope of Deliverance'? I think it has a haunting melody.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:10 (twenty-three years ago)
p.s. 'for your love'+'bus stop'=gouldman.
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 February 2003 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)
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― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 17 February 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)
Dud: 'Wings at the Speed of Sound', 'Flaming Pie', 'Driving Rain' (a little better than 'FP'), 'Press to Play' (interesting yet not successful experimentation from Macca in 1986...) & 'Back to the Egg' (consistently average, only 'Old Siam Sir' makes any real impression).
Many albums of his i'm mixed about... yet, overall 'Classic', I maybe go towards this strongly as the general consensus is so unfairly a 'dud' opinion. You have to look deep into his work, and will find much that is good...
― Tom May (Tom May), Thursday, 20 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Ally C (Ally C), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)
Too late, it was in the issue with Santana on the cover.
― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 21:38 (twenty-three years ago)
If one's scratching one's head about how badly Paul's solo cheese wears on the nerves, try the following experiment: program disc one of the white album to only play Paul's tracks. Starts off okay but the unrelenting 'Ob-la-di' to 'Martha My Dear' to 'Blackbird', by the time it gets to 'Rocky Racoon' you'll be clawing your face off.
― Jon Leidecker, Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 28 February 2003 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)
It should be mentioned that it's the MCCARTNEY II version that should be considered "classic." The live version, which Columbia released as a single in the US, pales in comparison (though there's a very strange meteor-shower synth break toward the end).
Am I the only person who thinks BACK TO THE EGG is almost the equal of BAND ON THE RUN/VENUS & MARS? Probably.
― mike a (mike a), Friday, 28 February 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)
Most obvious cases of search:"Tug Of War", "Flowers In The Dirt", "Band On The Run", "Venus And Mars"
Destroy:"Wild Life", "McCartney II", "Press To Play", "Wings At The Speed Of Sound", "Pipes Of Peace".
Other than the disastrous "Wild Life", even the worst albums contain at least one or two great tracks each though.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)
The production on that album is definitely classy, but the songs are just too weak for it to avoid the dustbin. "Tug Of War" has the same marvellous production, and contains almost exclusively great songs. (Yes, even "Ebony & Ivory" isn't that bad, really)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:25 (twenty-three years ago)
"Waterfalls" is the only really good song on that album. "Coming Up" is a dud IMO. Just because John Lennon liked it doesn't automatically mean it was good (in fact, most of Lennon's solo work sucked anyway)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)
'Flowers in the Dirt' has a far worse production than 'Pipes of Peace'; it really lacks focus and sympathy for the songs. There is some fine material on there, but much of it is middling.
Do *not* destroy 'McCartney II'... it's a revelation frankly! Such a massive step up from 'Back to the Egg' and more cohesive and compelling I believe than 'McCartney' (though 'Junk' & 'Every Night' are sublime). It is McCartney very interestingly going down the route of electronic music; which sadly he didn't continue so much on his next two (nevertheless good) albums. 'Summer's Day Song' is among McCartney's most beautiful, as is 'Waterfalls'... 'Frozen Jap' and 'Front Parlour' see a Kraftwerk-type influence beautifully used to make jaunty, expressively melancholic electronic pieces. 'Dark Room' is oddball in a great manner... 'One of these Days' is a masterful close to the album.
'Press To Play' possibly does... but it is mis-produced and really inadequate in its music and songwriting (will have to give it another chance, mind).I fully agree on 'Wings at the Speed of Sound'; apart from 'Silly Love Songs' (a badly produced and sounding recording of it) and the towering pop of 'Le 'Em In', it is a seriously mediocre record and the one with the most detrimental influence of the other Wings members.'Ram', 'Band on the Run', 'Red Rose Speedway' and 'Venus and Mars' are unreservedly recommended as an fine early quartet of albums.
― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)
Wouldn't call any of them awful. Although they are clearly tracks that seem like partly failed attempts to copy his duet partner's musical styles.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)
I love the production on that one too. But, then again, I enjoy most of what Mitchell Froom and Trevor Horn/Stephen Lipson have ever done sonically.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)
The hits are mainly produced by Mitchell Froom (Crowded House, Suzanne Vega, early 90s Elvis Costello). But Trevor Horn produced "How Many People" and "Figure Of Eight"
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)
i have heard neither, and know very little about mccartney solo. what are these songs like?
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 24 March 2003 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)
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― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 24 March 2003 20:58 (twenty-three years ago)
Would anyone care to share their thoughts? You can make them up if you like. I'm just trying to get better value for money.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 25 November 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)
Your last comment is OTM btw.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 25 November 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 25 November 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
exactly
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 May 2026 19:10 (two weeks ago)
It's more libertarian to not force him into retirement
― timellison, Saturday, 30 May 2026 23:13 (two weeks ago)
"Ripples in a Pond" is an absolutely lovely song.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 May 2026 23:20 (two weeks ago)
Struck again by what a run of great albums he’s had this century.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 31 May 2026 03:50 (two weeks ago)
It's tempting to say mortality is the driving force, whether it's working through grief or facing his own mortality, and except for Tug of War coming in the wake of Lennon's death, I can't think of many examples where it's been the subject of his work prior to Flaming Pie.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 31 May 2026 04:14 (two weeks ago)
(Granted Flaming Pie and Run Devil Run are from the previous century, but I think of them as being apiece with the later stuff.)
― birdistheword, Sunday, 31 May 2026 04:15 (two weeks ago)
I didn't really like the album as a whole, but I decided I was going to just listen to the whole thing in the car, uncritically, and just take in the musicality and melodicism. Wouldn't you know, the whole thing was just pleasant and enjoyable?
― timellison, Monday, 8 June 2026 01:48 (one week ago)