im a little worreid the answer is "that prick from rapgenius"
― max, Saturday, 15 June 2013 23:42 (thirteen years ago)
if nietzsche were alive today he'd be shitting all over rapgenius
― ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 16 June 2013 00:23 (thirteen years ago)
if an uninspiring performer with a neutral persona made this album = El-P?
Stop picking on Emerson, Lake & Palmer.
I don't disagree with Reverend at all: interesting persona plus compelling sounds is the best combination of all, from Elvis through Highway 61 to today. I started reading the thread at jaymc's comment, and I think he was just trying to say that interesting persona isn't enough (and I assume he was responding to an earlier comment that maybe implied that it was?).
― clemenza, Sunday, 16 June 2013 00:30 (thirteen years ago)
The irony is Nietzsche disowned Wagner for Bizet, which is like going from Kanye to ... Bieber?
― drew in baltimore, Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:03 (thirteen years ago)
you guys didn't post spin raves?
http://www.spin.com/articles/kanye-west-yeezus-first-review/
― scott seward, Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:19 (thirteen years ago)
Soderbergh's blurb and score don't match? Or is it me?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:40 (thirteen years ago)
Not just you.
― Simon H., Sunday, 16 June 2013 02:45 (thirteen years ago)
"As for this being his "punk" or "post-punk" or "industrial" record, well, you can hear all that, if that's your life experience or critical orientation, but hip-hop has always been about noise and dissonance and dance music as agitation, et al., so don't act like this is some sort of 1,000 No Homo DJs or Yeezus Built My Hot Rod scenario."
― scott seward, Sunday, 16 June 2013 03:18 (thirteen years ago)
lol
makes up for putting the image of "pussyhound warts" in my head...
But where is the song about how Kim is awesome and Kanye is also awesome? :(
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 16 June 2013 09:32 (thirteen years ago)
will be on the crowd-pleasing next album, 909s & Valentines
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Sunday, 16 June 2013 10:40 (thirteen years ago)
Hoping to see Ye trying his utmost to outdo Jay with a song for his new baby daughter
― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Sunday, 16 June 2013 11:08 (thirteen years ago)
you're my child with the child from Destiny's Child! you're my Kardashian that I'll keep up with after getting all up in the Kardashian from Keeping Up With The Kardashians!
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Sunday, 16 June 2013 11:10 (thirteen years ago)
Projected on the Field Museum last night:
https://vine.co/v/hBib51OP0Ow
― lols lane (Eazy), Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)
projected in williamsburg bk last night too
― Evan, Sunday, 16 June 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)
Can't get the hook to "On Site" out of my head today - totally incongruous to shopping at Target
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:58 (thirteen years ago)
I just read the last 1/3 of this thread while forgetting that "Shaking the Habitual" was the recent Knife album, thought it was some sort of Jane's Addiction reference, and was kind of disgusted by the tendency of threads to veer off into irrelevant comparisons that only make personal sense to the writer.
well, maybe I still have that
― mh, Sunday, 16 June 2013 22:08 (thirteen years ago)
god, bonnie bear's white dude in the old man hat voice is such a buzzkill
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Sunday, 16 June 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)
dude, it's boney bear, show some respect
― mh, Monday, 17 June 2013 03:48 (thirteen years ago)
saw him on SNL, uhhhhhh
― frogbs, Monday, 17 June 2013 04:13 (thirteen years ago)
frog time machine go
― mh, Monday, 17 June 2013 04:23 (thirteen years ago)
first four tracks are pretty much fire, i love the LOUDNESS and unrelenting RARRGHHHH, though with a caveat or two
"hold my liquor" and "bound 2" are the only ones i'll straight-up dismiss on two listens - the former is incredibly annoying and dull, the latter is just sort of a much-less-good version of "homecoming", "gone" etc
"blood on the leaves" is...something. definitely something. i kind of like the question "what if 808s was primal and visceral rather than sadsack mopey" but i also kind of want to back away slowly from it
in general i agree that after the first four tracks the rest of the album is disappointing but the production's interesting and a lot of it is saved by the dancehall
i really hate the line "hurry up with my damn croissants", really really hate it, i just imagine entitled bankers and frat boys yelling it at lowly-paid serving staff and thinking they're really funny. this type of shit has to be directed upwards or possibly at a peer otherwise it's just gross
the sweet & sour sauce line is also gross obviously but idk the impending memeification of the croissants line gives me the absolute shivers
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 June 2013 09:57 (thirteen years ago)
idk the impending memeification of the croissants line gives me the absolute shivers
board description?
― tpp, Monday, 17 June 2013 10:02 (thirteen years ago)
What I like about the croissants line is that it is pretty much the most un-godlike thing one could say.
― sonderpop, Monday, 17 June 2013 10:06 (thirteen years ago)
my interest in 'blood on the leaves' kinda faded when i realised he wasnt shouting IT CAME OUT YOUR BODYYYY. loses that xtra cronenberg immediacy layer
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 June 2013 11:22 (thirteen years ago)
out of, guh
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 11:28 (thirteen years ago)
slowly coming around to "hold my liquor" after thinking it was by far the low point before. folks keep talking about the second half being disappointing but iono "Send it Up" is just as good as the first few songs
― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Monday, 17 June 2013 12:23 (thirteen years ago)
send half, starting with "hold my liquor" is where the magic is
― dylannn, Monday, 17 June 2013 12:26 (thirteen years ago)
"Send It Up" and "Bound 2" are prob my favorite songs, but the middle section gets pretty gross
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:15 (thirteen years ago)
'bound 2' is a gladdening throwback on its own but just feels kinda sad to me at the end of all that
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 June 2013 13:20 (thirteen years ago)
ehh it feels refreshing at the end of the album for me, less for the zzz soul sample than for a song about relationships/women that isn't all fisting and lynching
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:28 (thirteen years ago)
that was my initial reaction but once i started thinking of it in the lineage of previous throwbacky/celebratory kanye album closers it palled rather (nb i love "gone" and "homecoming" a great deal)
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 June 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
never figured you for a fan of the coldplay song
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:30 (thirteen years ago)
I think that's precisely what makes "Bound 2" a failure for me: after an album of rough sex it comes off sentimental, to prove that Deep Down what Ye wants is Love.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:31 (thirteen years ago)
i think that's pretty present throughout the album
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 June 2013 13:32 (thirteen years ago)
also very fond of "hold my liquor", one of Kanye's finest achievements imo. The guitars kill me (softly, actually) in combination with the rest. I'm very surprised that Daft Punk were apparently not involved in this. Plus, the Corolla line. Traces of actual storytelling. "Soulmates became soulless" etc. etc.
― sonderpop, Monday, 17 June 2013 13:33 (thirteen years ago)
the song really isn't that saccharine if you actually listen to the lyrics! it's just...not about profound emotional betrayal and ass eating. (xp)
― ramona & yeezus (some dude), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:34 (thirteen years ago)
and I'm not suggesting rough sex and Real Love are a binary.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:36 (thirteen years ago)
oh this surprised me too, it just really works. though tbh it's pretty obv that triumphalist/sentimental corn and coldplay go together
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 June 2013 13:44 (thirteen years ago)
what do (co.) and (add.) mean on the production credits (here: http://nahright.com/news/2013/06/14/kanye-west-yeezus-tracklist/)?
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 17 June 2013 15:20 (thirteen years ago)
co producer, additional production?
― max, Monday, 17 June 2013 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
not surprisingly i love this now that i've heard it. it doesn't seem particularly amelodic to me but maybe that's just me. "blood on the leaves" and "guilt trip" are my least favorite because emo autotune warbling kanye is my least favorite kanye but they both still have interesting aspects.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 17 June 2013 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
those credits are likely wrong
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 June 2013 15:25 (thirteen years ago)
guess Iamsu's contribution got lost somewhere along the way
HBK Iamsu! @IAMSUThis foo ye got my verse sounding crazy! #Yeezus0:31 PM - 10 Jun 13
This foo ye got my verse sounding crazy! #Yeezus
0:31 PM - 10 Jun 13
― Number None, Monday, 17 June 2013 15:27 (thirteen years ago)
oh ok. i was looking bc it was interesting listening to this not knowing who produced what or who the guests are and trying to figure it out.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 17 June 2013 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
it's quite funny that no one even knows the proper credited features yet. like, there even seems to be confusion over whether it's "bound" or "bound 2"
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 June 2013 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
i think he's posting the full credits online tomorrow
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 June 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iszwuX1AK6A
― http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Monday, 17 June 2013 15:49 (thirteen years ago)