gotta say that "Black Skinheads" sounds more amazing now than a few weeks ago. Love how it never quite hits a climax.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 June 2013 23:47 (thirteen years ago)
Skinhead
lyrically, he's covering a lot of the same ground he's covered before, cold sexual hookups and the fucked up desolation of wealth and fucked up relationships that result from it, maybe, and usually i find it compelling and original and he keeps going to the same places here and the problem isn't that i've heard it before but that he's repeating it with less sophistication with lots of awkward turns of phrase and just garbage what the hellllllll lines.
― dylannn, Friday, 14 June 2013 23:53 (thirteen years ago)
otm
― some dude, Friday, 14 June 2013 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
i'm still listening to this so i don't know what i can say about it but "blood on the leaves," man... "strange fruit" played straight then chopped into a horrible bleat, autotune that sounds like a goofy kanye molly joint and then degrades into fucked up amnesiac wobble, turbo grafx dmx howls, stutters, first lyrical coldbloodedness witnessed on here. ---> "guilt trip," where i can wash away the memory of sweet and sour pussy, stupid loveable kanye back on some irv gotti pastoral late90s chillout beats / distorted dancehall and drones.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:00 (thirteen years ago)
"rap's Flowers of Romance," a FB friend wrote, meant as a compliment (but not to me).
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:08 (thirteen years ago)
"bound 2" puts a dumb smile on my face like the first time i heard ghost doing "holla" over an uncut delfonics track smearing himself off beat singing along to the chorus
what you doin in the club on a thursdayshe said she only here for her girl birthdaythey order champagne but still look thirstayrock forever 21 but just turned thirtay
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:13 (thirteen years ago)
"blood on the leaves" / "guilt trip" / "send it up" / "bound 2" is a great second half
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:15 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yvX9l2PfRg
"he done made shit i can step to. i'm an old motherfucker that like to step and this nigga make beats i can step to, so i like that shit"
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:19 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/rick-rubin-speaks-on-recording-process-with-kanye-west-for-yeezus-news.6052.html
― Number None, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:21 (thirteen years ago)
https://soundcloud.com/felixxxiao/voiceofageneration
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:21 (thirteen years ago)
A good example would be the song that became “Bound.” When he first played it for me, it was a more middle of the road R&B song, done in an adult contemporary style. Kanye had the idea of combining that track with a cool sample he had found and liked – I removed all of the R&B elements leaving only a single note baseline in the hook which we processed to have a punk edge in the Suicide tradition.
i've never heard suicide but "bound 2" is great because it's kanye on, i guess, according to rick rubin, a "middle of the road r&b song" with limited intervention.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
so: did he write all the lyrics this time?
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:30 (thirteen years ago)
i don't get the sense he ever hasn't, give or take a punchline contributed here or there by rhymefest or pusha or whoever
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:32 (thirteen years ago)
if he did, he should probably leak some ghostwriter rumors, let cyhi da prynce or rhymefest take some of the blame
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:34 (thirteen years ago)
production credits
1. "On Sight" Daft Punk2. "Black Skinhead" Daft Punk, Travi$ Scott (co.), Mike Dean (add.)3. "I Am a God" (featuring Justin Vernon) Daft Punk, Hudson Mohawke (co.), Kanye West (co.), Travi$ Scott (co.), Mike Dean (add.), Rick Rubin (add.)4. "New Slaves" (featuring Frank Ocean) Daft Punk, Travi$ Scott (co.), Hudson Mohawke (co.), Mike Dean (co.), Kanye West (add.)5. "Hold My Liquor" (featuring Chief Keef and Justin Vernon) Young Chop, Mike Dean (co.), Arca (add.), Rick Rubin (add.)6. "I'm in It" (featuring Justin Vernon) RZA, Travi$ Scott (add.), Mike Dean (add.)7. "Blood on the Leaves" (featuring Tony Williams) TNGHT, Kanye West (co.), Mike Dean (add.) 8. "Guilt Trip" (featuring Kid Cudi) Symbolyc One, Arca (co.), Travi$ Scott (co.), Mike Dean (co.), Ackeejuice Rockers (co.)9. "Send It Up" (featuring King L & Iamsu!) Gesaffelstein, Arca (co.), Daft Punk (co.), Hudson Mohawke (add.)10. "Bound 2" (featuring Charlie Wilson) Kanye West, No I.D., Symbolyc One (co.) The Heatmakerz (co.), Rick Rubin (add
2. "Black Skinhead" Daft Punk, Travi$ Scott (co.), Mike Dean (add.)
3. "I Am a God" (featuring Justin Vernon) Daft Punk, Hudson Mohawke (co.), Kanye West (co.), Travi$ Scott (co.), Mike Dean (add.), Rick Rubin (add.)
4. "New Slaves" (featuring Frank Ocean) Daft Punk, Travi$ Scott (co.), Hudson Mohawke (co.), Mike Dean (co.), Kanye West (add.)
5. "Hold My Liquor" (featuring Chief Keef and Justin Vernon) Young Chop, Mike Dean (co.), Arca (add.), Rick Rubin (add.)
6. "I'm in It" (featuring Justin Vernon) RZA, Travi$ Scott (add.), Mike Dean (add.)
7. "Blood on the Leaves" (featuring Tony Williams) TNGHT, Kanye West (co.), Mike Dean (add.)
8. "Guilt Trip" (featuring Kid Cudi) Symbolyc One, Arca (co.), Travi$ Scott (co.), Mike Dean (co.), Ackeejuice Rockers (co.)
9. "Send It Up" (featuring King L & Iamsu!) Gesaffelstein, Arca (co.), Daft Punk (co.), Hudson Mohawke (add.)
10. "Bound 2" (featuring Charlie Wilson) Kanye West, No I.D., Symbolyc One (co.) The Heatmakerz (co.), Rick Rubin (add
― Number None, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:35 (thirteen years ago)
heatmakerz are like the ghost of roc-a-fella past in this bitch
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:37 (thirteen years ago)
i can't imagine the circumstances that required the addition of the heatmakerz to that lineup of producers for a barely touched soul sample with almost nonexistent additional drums
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:42 (thirteen years ago)
little bit suicide, little bit "dipset anthem"
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:43 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha dylannn
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)
I'm surprised how few tracks he touched himself.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:48 (thirteen years ago)
I mean obviously his producer goons got goons, but I still expect him to be the guiding hand behind it all.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:49 (thirteen years ago)
architecture, man.
― http://threeframes.net (gr8080), Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:50 (thirteen years ago)
was kanye listening to a lot of rap-a-lot era yukmouth and 5th ward boyz and just had to have mike dean as his second-in-command? how did that happen? it seems like he went from z-ro albums to graduation with no logical transition.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:53 (thirteen years ago)
i kind of imagine how prominent his name is in the credits for a given song doesn't mean that much, it's obviously all his choices, mixing and matching different producers' contributions like samples.
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:56 (thirteen years ago)
yeah the Mike Dean thing has always been slightly confusing in that way
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 00:58 (thirteen years ago)
i thought he was a fairly generic rap-a-lot studio producer. i've heard so much of what he's produced that i feel like i can tell when he's programmed the drums on a track-- but it's hard to say. the other day i found a blac monks album, obscure mystical paranoia houston group featuring mr 3-2 released by rap-a-lot, bought it at a thrift store ten years ago, weird feeling to see it was all produced by mike dean.
the thing is like, he's ONLY done records for kanye and then houston southside guys and a handful of rap-a-lot west coast division stuff.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:02 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i mean, usually Kanye's collaborations, especially with southern rap guys, are kind of transparent -- do a few songs with Toomp after "What You Know" blows up, etc. i mean Kanye did some Scarface stuff but mike dean didn't even work on The Fix, did he?
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:06 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIS3KouPdgM
the first possible intersection of kanye and mike dean
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:07 (thirteen years ago)
i think he did everything on the fix, engineered it, recorded everything
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:08 (thirteen years ago)
DX: Kanye West worked on some projects with you early in his career. With his budgets and stardom, he went you to mix some of his best work. Did he ever tell you what it was about your mixing that appealed to him so much?Mike Dean: He said they were the best mixes he’d ever had. I mixed “Guess Who’s Back” from The Fix, and he really liked the mix on that, so he hit me up for his first record. He actually came to my house, and we did the first three or four mixes here before he had budgets for a big studio somewhere.
Mike Dean: He said they were the best mixes he’d ever had. I mixed “Guess Who’s Back” from The Fix, and he really liked the mix on that, so he hit me up for his first record. He actually came to my house, and we did the first three or four mixes here before he had budgets for a big studio somewhere.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:10 (thirteen years ago)
I mixed four or five records from College Dropout, but I think only two of them made it. The rest were mixtapes, like “Keep the Receipt,” the song with [Ol' Dirty Bastard]. I mastered “Through The Wire,” I mixed the “Two Words” song with Mos Def and Freeway. For [Late Registration], I pretty much did all the singles except for “Diamonds From Sierra Leone,” I didn’t do the final mix on that.
see, i had no idea he touched "through the wire."
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:11 (thirteen years ago)
could def combine like 1/2 of this w/ half of mbtdf and make 1 really killer lp & 1 other straight instrument of torture imo
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:26 (thirteen years ago)
Pitchfork prediction sweepstake?
― piscesx, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:37 (thirteen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Spinal_Tap_-_Up_to_Eleven.jpg
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 01:58 (thirteen years ago)
SFJ on the album: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2013/06/24/130624crmu_music_frerejones?currentPage=all
already some pretty ludicrous exaggeration of what the album actually sounds like
West has suggested that he may not release a single from “Yeezus,” and from an artistic standpoint the impulse is not perverse. The album is so tonally unified that it comes across as one very long single—an extended thought, coughed up quickly. There are few steady drumbeats, and West can’t seem to resist pausing the sound and then bringing it back from silence; he never wants you to forget that he is standing over the boards. This is music with a lot of empty space: it consists largely of profane rapping over wildly distorted bass lines, which often serve as the only melodic motifs. When synths do appear, they aren’t pretty.
― some dude, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:21 (thirteen years ago)
profane rapping over wildly distorted bass lines
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:22 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks for the life update Kanye, but you can't dance to this shit.
― Popture, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:27 (thirteen years ago)
right. i think my number one criticism is that kanye has set aside the straight ahead dance beats of his previous releases and simultaneously veered into autobiographical lyrics.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:32 (thirteen years ago)
well, my #1 criticism is inspiring think pieces requiring writers to do more twisting than a contortionist.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:35 (thirteen years ago)
girlfriend made me turn it down so i just went out to the garage. sanding some wood to send it up. life ain't bad
― illegalblues, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks for the life update Kanye, but you can't sand wood to this shit.
― dylannn, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:40 (thirteen years ago)
yes you can! i'm also gonna lay down a coat of varnish too. this swing is gonna be the shit
― illegalblues, Saturday, 15 June 2013 02:42 (thirteen years ago)
"My swing is the nucleus."
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 15 June 2013 03:00 (thirteen years ago)
FYI that credits list is completely wrong
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:16 (thirteen years ago)
oh rly?
― monotony, Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:17 (thirteen years ago)
lol at this being the album he releases after revealing that his principal motivation for making music is winning grammys
― monotony, Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:18 (thirteen years ago)
ahaha
― Treeship, Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:37 (thirteen years ago)
i love this so much. new slaves is fire, and i love the outro too. i'm not convinced by all the tracks but i've only listened to this twice all the way through so far
― Treeship, Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:39 (thirteen years ago)
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, June 15, 2013 1:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
i've been listening to "send it up" all night trying to hear even a trace of iamsu
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 June 2013 07:35 (thirteen years ago)