The Replacements: Classic or Dud?

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Written by Moon Martin. Anyway sorry for hijack. Still waiting for pplains to splain the rest of the story.

Roddenberry Beret (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:18 (thirteen years ago)

Great story. I saw 'em twice and Paul solo once but don't have any such tales to tell.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:25 (thirteen years ago)

what a weird festival -- and right near me, too! plenty of bands i wouldn't mind seeing, but uhhhh. probably going to pass on it.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:31 (thirteen years ago)

I did the "ain't lost yet so I gotta be ready/bacon and cigarettes a lousy dinner" and then threw the mic back up when i was supposed to go How smart are you?

I don't even know if those are the right lyrics. Don't care.

The worst show was one inside the fancy music hall at Mizzou. Westerberg came out, did three songs, laid down on his back and did not get back up. They carried him out of the building on a stretcher.

Me and some buddies who had driven up for the show just kinda looked at each other and went Welp.

pplains, Thursday, 13 June 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's "ain't lost yet so I gotta be a winner." Always loved that line, even if that's not what it is.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:03 (thirteen years ago)

I used to think he was saying "Pull a bullet right out of my skull" in "I'll Be You". I'm horrible with lyrics.

pplains, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

wait that's not what he says? i have been singing my own version of these songs for so long that i am always right even when i'm wrong.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

I still think "I.O.U." starts with "Gimme a drastic impression."

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

Guys, remember the original liner notes to Sorry, Ma- "Make up your own words, we did!"

Roddenberry Beret (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Got that slightly wrong: "Make up your own words. I did"
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/27/arts/post-punk-rock-rebels-thrive-in-minneapolis.html

Roddenberry Beret (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

Bob's lead is hotter than a urinary infection

copter (waterface), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:47 (thirteen years ago)

my only chance to see them was on their last tour (sans Mars) at the Palladium in LA and it was amazing, one of the first handful of shows I saw. Johnette Napolitano came out to sing My Little Problem, that was cool.

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 June 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

If I heard the show was alright, I'd totally see "Paul Westerberg Does His '80s Songbook With Tommy Stinson"

da croupier, Thursday, 13 June 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)

this band of fuck-ups fighting the world by sitting back

that's more than a little true. i sometimes wonder what it would've been like if they'd taken up the fight. but then they'd probably just have turned into the goo goo dolls or something.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 13 June 2013 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

I sort of assume this is exactly how the Goos became a thing

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

while they broke through on a pretty post-westerberg ballad, their actual collabo with westerberg bombed hardcore

da croupier, Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

honestly paul was already too deep in the crit-pick mire to crossover by the time he was trying, though i do appreciate cameron crowe getting him a shot at a "footloose"

da croupier, Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

and that a cute earnest fan was able to take his steez to marx/jovi territory was a tribute in a sense

da croupier, Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

while they broke through on a pretty post-westerberg ballad, their actual collabo with westerberg bombed hardcore
--da croupier

yeah that tune sux but IMO that car wash record holds up generally and as a mats imitation

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

i like hold me up and some of the crossover hits but i've been afraid to revisit that one

da croupier, Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

Oh I was mixing up the records, Hold Me Up is the one I meant

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:33 (thirteen years ago)

Hold Me Up still works.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

So for anybody that doesn't have it, I just re-ripped the 7th Street Entry show from YouTube:

http://db.tt/3RlPMX6a

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

weeeeeeeeeeee are the noooormmal
we live and we die
no reason why

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2013 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

I skipped through the YouTube clips, and for me the two songs that leave the others behind are "Kids Don't Follow" and "Johnny's Gonna Die." I wonder if they have any idea how good they are? Chris Mars in the latter has this faraway look that's hard to read. Of the four people up there, I imagine three of them thought of all this in terms of months, if not weeks.

clemenza, Friday, 14 June 2013 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

"goddamn job" isn't in the 6 part twintone thing for some reason, but it's def from the show and i threw it on the thing--that one is by far the best of the set imo. for that little moment at the end where paul & bob just effortlessly lock into this palm-muted thing, i get fooled into thinking "goddamn job" is my favorite mats song.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 00:15 (thirteen years ago)

this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IINrFUCF8-g

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 00:15 (thirteen years ago)

just to add to all these live Mats memories:

I saw them headlining on the DTAS tour in Phoenix and they were great, playing for around 2 1/2 hours and getting progressively drunker over the course of it. I remember Tommy running out on stage and nearly falling over when he reached the end of his cord. Slim pouring a beer onto his amp. After they'd played pretty much all of their well-known songs Paul said, "Uh, any requests?" and me and my friend yelled out "I Don't Know" (which was our dorky male-bonding favorite song) and the band launched into it.

I also saw Paul solo in 95 or 96 in Iowa City and it was pretty cool. He was obviously kind of annoyed that the Mats songs got a better response than the solo songs. But I got to shake his hand.

mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Friday, 14 June 2013 00:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.spin.com/sites/all/files/styles/style620_413/public/91-08-spin-cover.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 June 2013 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

Did Spin's writers report back, or did they just disappear into a black hole of madness and despair?

clemenza, Friday, 14 June 2013 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

They did! It was a great issue, actually. EiC gave all their writers a ticket to some random place in search of the soul of rock and roll. Of course, with Paul they had a ringer.

BTW, anyone who hasn't heard Chris Mars' solo stuff really should:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2KerXTzuqc

If you only knew this, you would never guess this was the former Mats drummer.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 June 2013 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

^^ Minnesota deep cuts

eris bueller (lukas), Friday, 14 June 2013 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

This one's good too, especially the chorus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRd3wai3Y-Y

(I thought I'd posted that before, but if not on this thread, I'm not sure where.)

clemenza, Friday, 14 June 2013 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

like both of those, dam

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 14 June 2013 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

This "Chris Mars WAS the Replacements" stuff is giving me flashbacks to people saying that it isn't Van Halen without Michael Anthony.

Mike Dixn, Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:19 (thirteen years ago)

IT ISN'T.

pplains, Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

^^

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Please welcome new guitarist.... HAR MAR SUPERSTAR

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 June 2013 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Uh,kidding right?

Pastel City Slang (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 June 2013 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

I am serious!

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 June 2013 13:33 (thirteen years ago)

Yup

https://twitter.com/jesshopp/status/347722154143539201

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:30 (thirteen years ago)

huh

keyser saucy vagina (DJP), Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

DJP can be the drummer and the entire show can be him shouting at Westerberg "I never thought you were that great!" and just playing drum solos based on Information Society songs that Har Mar freestyles over.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:36 (thirteen years ago)

Which, of course, I would pay to see without hesitation.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Har_Mar_Superstar.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:41 (thirteen years ago)

does he have an album called Young Ron Jeremy because if not he's slipping

keyser saucy vagina (DJP), Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:43 (thirteen years ago)

Wait could we get Prince to play drums for them?

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Ha they should get Grant Hart.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

they should use Savage Aural Hotbed as their drum section

keyser saucy vagina (DJP), Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:10 (thirteen years ago)

TBF, every band should.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:10 (thirteen years ago)


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