The Beatles

Cf me backing myself into a corner on the lumineers thread

Beach Boys is a good thing to bring up, I think. There are Serious Music People who revere the band, but I bet many only know the hits, and many of those folks listen with some degree of fun fun fun irony. Which is something else unique about the Beatles: does anyone listen to the Beatles ironically? Can the band even be listened to ironically? Elvis, Beach Boys, sure, there's a certain kitsch factor, but even the kitschy Beatles stuff seems self-aware enough to be inured from dismissal. "Yellow Submarine" isn't a great song, and the Beatles don't present it as a great song, but it's still, you know, a great song.

Also, the Beatles never took the stage to "Also sprach Zarathustra,"

It was implied.

Also, the Beatles never took the stage to "Also sprach Zarathustra,"

They never took the stage at all after 1966, pussies

Maybe they would have had they pumped themselves up with Also sprach Zarathustra every night.

I have a dim memory of the Kurt Russell TV film being pretty good.

I watched this about a year ago or so - it's pretty good, Russell is a lot of fun, but nothing revelatory

i think it's pretty misguided to assume that even casual BBs fans are 'listening ironically,' whatever that means -- anyway, there's nothing kitschy about 'fun fun fun,' no moreso than 'she loves you' or 'i wanna hold your hand.'

in my experience most ppl are at least sort of aware that elvis was once young and cool, and that you need to separate 'cool elvis' from 'lame elvis.'

For sure. Same with Beach Boys! But I guarantee you there are more people who do "Kokomo" at karaoke night than "Fun Fun Fun."

And it's not because "Kokomo" is good.

People do the Beatles because everyone knows and loves the Beatles.

Where did you get all these fascinating karaoke stats?

I pulled them out of my butt, ironically.

That was how Yellow Submarine was written.

Many people do actually like "Kokomo," btw.

Where did you get those stats?

No numbers, no credibility!

(When I saw the Beach Boys last year, I totally didn't mind Kokomo).

i like kokomo but i kind of hate the beach boys, connection prob

only really came to terms w this the other day when i voted for san francisco

defend the indefensible: "kokomo" by the beach boys

the little bit that goes 'that's where we wanna go-o-o' right before the chorus in 'kokomo' is really nice.

What would it say about the Beatles if "Little Deuce Coupe" was the most popular Beach Boys song at karaoke night?

I remember reading a thread where aerosmith argued that kokomo was the best beach boys song

It seems like the product of a different band to be honest, not really a "beach boys" song.

It's a "product" of Satan's butthole, Hail Satan.

whenever I think of Kokomo, I think of toddler mary kate or ashley olson saying "KO-KO-MO" on that episode of Full House, and then I start to think about whether I actually find that cute, ironically cute or just disgusting, and then my mind spins into a nihilistic vortex that takes me days to get out of.

Otm. Full house is kind of uncanny... nostalgic in a bad way.

interesting Lewisohn interview here. pretty psyched for the book now tbh
http://beatlesexaminer.podbean.com/2013/06/23/twst-39-mark-lewisohn-on-his-beatles-biography/

! will listen

i'm so happy
cuz today i shaved my head
and i'm not sad

There's more of that Lewisohn interview on the guy's own webpage (scroll down): http://www.kenmichaelsradio.com./

All Those Years sounds mindblowing: starting with a 1,000 page book that will be the first of three... !

Trying to imagine what these "wow moments" will be.

Tuesday: John meets Paul

All Those Years sounds mindblowing: starting with a 1,000 page book that will be the first of three... !
― hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM),

I think the "director's cut" they are releasing UK only at first is actually 2,000 pages!!!

http://www.craigharper.com.au/uploaded_images/yawning.jpg

Party pooper

and knowing what the boys had for breakfast on August 5, 1959 is a PAR-TAY!!

I'll remember to bring a flask of coffee and a sleeping bag if I ever get around to reading it.

My guess is nothing will be as wow as the teenage circle jerk revealed in Paul's book.

i never really feel like i need another beatles book besides the large silver anthology book

This is fun - all of the Abbey Road medley w/isolated vocal tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrAdX4O1m4M&feature=youtu.be

Let's hear some Carnival of Light, motherfuckers!

I don't care if it's 20 minutes of Ringo dragging a tambourine across the floor, I NEED TO HEAR IT!

Seriously, dunno what the fuck McCartney's waiting for.

Someone made another fake a few weeks ago, this time incorporating "John" saying "Barcelona."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgKCQJfAVgI

http://simpsonswiki.com/w/images/5/5d/Helter_Shmelter.png

http://www.thebeatlesonline.co.uk/thebeatles/Live-At-The-BBC/
NEW PRODUCT
I never downloaded the big ol' complete Beeb Beatles sessions (9 discs?). Is there great stuff that wasn't on the first official release?

In 1994, The Beatles’ Live at the BBC was released to worldwide acclaim - hitting number one in the U.K. and number three in the U.S. and selling more than five million copies within six weeks.
A new companion to The Beatles’ first BBC collection, On Air – Live at the BBC Volume 2, will now be released on 11 November.

On Air’s 63 tracks, none of which overlaps with The Beatles’ first BBC release, include 37 previously unreleased performances and 23 previously unreleased recordings of in-studio banter and conversation between the band’s members and their BBC radio hosts.

In the studios of the British Broadcasting Corporation, The Beatles performed music for a variety of radio shows. On Air - Live at the BBC Volume 2 presents the sound of The Beatles seizing their moment to play for the nation. Thrilled to hear these exciting recordings again, Paul McCartney said, “There’s a lot of energy and spirit. We are going for it, not holding back at all, trying to put in the best performance of our lifetimes.”

On Air Live At The BBC Volume 2
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'Live at the BBC Volume 2' Limited Edition Lithographic Print
ART
£49.99

'Live at the BBC Volume 2' CD & Limited Edition Lithographic Print
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that bundle is a fucking DEAL

I have a question about the Beatles:
This is pretty much just anecdotal, but it seems like most people under the age of about 45 who are fans of the Beatles have been listening to them since they were kids? I don't just mean listening to them in sense that pretty much everyone of this age who has grown up in the western world heard a lot of their songs, I mean specifically putting on their parents Beatles LPs or borrowing Beatles albums from their local library or whatever. Is there anyone on ilx who regularly listens to the Beatles as an adult who didn't really listen to the Beatles before the age of, say, 14? Do you think that the fact you first encountered these songs as a kid makes a difference to how you hear them today (if this is when you first heard them)?