amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

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Yeah, surely everyone who writes a piece like that (or any piece in fact) has other things they could be doing instead.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

It is his first novel since 2006, and it's on his blog - I'd assume there's an awareness of it and an expectation that he'd talk about it. The dick move was leaving it in for the Guardian.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:16 (thirteen years ago)

oh come on; I'm not an apologist but this is a major stretch. the "I should be talking about ____ but instead I'll talk about ____" is a fairly common lead, and a mass-market author's new book is a fairly obvious choice for blank number one.

(I would tend to doubt most publications do any editing of their syndicated articles.)

katherine, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:26 (thirteen years ago)

the dick move was being neil gaiman tbh

adam, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

The idea that a professional writer and frequent blogger might deal with the death of a friend by writing something is maybe not so outlandish as to merit an opening paragraph. Don't most people interrupt their working day (if they can) immediately after a friend dies? This is a bit too much like, well I've got major shit to do because I'm kind of a big deal but that's not important right now because #feelings.

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

perhaps, as with the accordion, an otherwise obnoxious instrument will be put to good use on weird al's forthcoming record

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)

wtf accordions are great.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)

^

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

could be

http://vimeo.com/9373087

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Friday, 14 June 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

It really couldn't, but thank you for lolravingamericans.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 15 June 2013 07:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah whatever dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yayWmpL5hGc

how's life, Saturday, 15 June 2013 10:44 (thirteen years ago)

Posted without comment - Jon Ronson's big Amanda Palmer article in the Guardian: Amanda Palmer: visionary or egotist?

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

Amanda flinches. "I don't do poetry," she says.

maura, Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

"I was just a very dark kid," she says. "My family was complicated."

"Oh?" I say, my ears pricking up. "What were the problems?"

"I actually put my finger on it recently while discussing something with my family," she replies, "and realised what precisely the chasm between me and them might be. It was a house of no metaphors. I had very literal parents and I wanted to survive with metaphor and art, and there was a real sense of shame around it."

"They were judgmental towards you?" I ask.

"There was a real judgment cast in my family about me wanting attention," she nods. "It wasn't that my parents didn't encourage my artistic pursuits – they did very much – but they didn't understand them."

maura, Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

"But the $1.2m," I say.

"I immediately spent all that money on the packaging and the mailing, and it was all gone six weeks later."

"Really?" I say.

"The pain and irony of my situation now is that everyone thinks I'm rich," she says.

[...]

Around half past midnight we share Gaiman's limo – provided by his publishers – back into central Philadelphia. She and Gaiman stay at the Ritz-Carlton, while I stay at the crappier DoubleTree down the road.

maura, Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

"If you stuck me in a room and gave me art-making tools but told me no one would ever see the results, I don't think I'd have much desire to make art," she says. "What I do comes from a deep desire to be seen and to see others.

whereis such room

you live your life on the floor (sleepingbag), Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

sings "What a house without metahors can doooooo"

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 June 2013 19:59 (thirteen years ago)

Back in the bar at the railway station, Amanda told me she had something to say that might "come out sounding megalomaniacal or wrong, so I trust you not to misinterpret it". She said that, in the midst of the Kickstarter controversy, the New Yorker published an article "tearing me to pieces". It included "the basest, most cruel insult someone could throw at me, which was to tell me that Bertolt Brecht would not be proud of me". She paused. "And then it dawned on me how deeply hated Bertolt Brecht was, and all of a sudden my mood improved." She smiled at me, and at the girl behind the bar, who had just told her how much she loved the Dresden Dolls. "I finally saw the bigger picture," she said, "which was: I was only put on this Earth to connect with the people who were attuned."

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 22 June 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

Mm, that explains it -- my built-in rabbit-ears are busted.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 June 2013 20:31 (thirteen years ago)

;_;

bertolt brecht would not be proud of (mookieproof), Saturday, 22 June 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Amanda is 10G trapped in a 4G lte world

Sufjan Grafton, Saturday, 22 June 2013 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

We climb out of the taxi. Amanda warns me not to fill the room with outsider-journalist bad vibes. She says that, as a result of all the controversies, "my community has tightened in our resolve to connect on our own terms". Her fans increasingly see the world as "us and them", she says.

The indie rock Sarah Palin?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

HFS OTM

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 23 June 2013 01:21 (thirteen years ago)

she's a sociopath

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 23 June 2013 01:55 (thirteen years ago)

All these aggrandizing personal anecdotes where she tells stories about things that happen BUT SHE SEES WHAT IT IS REALLY ABOUT are tired

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 June 2013 03:58 (thirteen years ago)

the basest, most cruel insult someone could throw at me

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 23 June 2013 04:33 (thirteen years ago)

lol Bruneau w the post of the day...

Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 23 June 2013 05:37 (thirteen years ago)

It cost 1.2 million to send 24,883 packages? That's $47.90 a package.

No wait, 6356 of those backers only received digital media.

I don't want to call her a liar but I sure as fuck don't believe a word

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 07:14 (thirteen years ago)

Best part of that article is that they played a ukulele house show making $5,000 and then took the limo to the Ritz-Carlton hotel they ended up staying at. Scroll down to the comments and you will find stans vehemently arguing that these people are not rich!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 June 2013 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

well shit dude she had to make her own dinner

j., Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

When did this whole thing start, the "white musicians lying about their finances" thing? It's makes me so angry. I want musicians to get paid, get rich. It's so frustrating when the ones that do get rich start lying about it. Or reposition their definition of "rich" to keep themselves in the percentile of the populace.

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe it's part of a larger problem of white people lying about stuff, huh

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

Her insistence on not being rich brings to mind the Chris Rock routine about the difference between rich and wealthy.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m37JkkGjAY

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:48 (thirteen years ago)

Is singer Amanda Palmer a free-spirited visionary – or a deluded egotist?

Clearly she is a deluded free-spirited egoist.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

Sad that her parents would not let her live in a realm of metaphor. Must have been a tough upbringing.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Inside, Amanda explains, are 25 Amanda Palmer fans. They don't know each other but they met online – during the Kickstarter appeal – to pool $5,000 for her to play a concert for them. She's doing 35 of these concerts across the US.

Holy fucking shit, someone who netted more than $100k for playing 35 living room ukelele shows counts as rich in my book. Unless she has absolutely no concept of money/saving.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

bingo

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 23 June 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

I hope she's rich, I'm glad she's rich if she is
also Doubletrees typically have pools and free waffles, I don't know what arts reporter was complaining about

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:14 (thirteen years ago)

Doesn't Doubletree also give you free cookies?

DJP, Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

So, $200 to have your favourite musician come play in your living room ....

m0stlyClean, Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:18 (thirteen years ago)

Jon Ronson, arghghghghgh. I'll guarantee you Gaiman's publisher paid for the Ritz-Carlton. The next day, the same publisher made out that he couldn't pay more than $5k for some newcomer's manuscript.

on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

I would totally pay $200 to have Prince or The Cure play in my living room

DJP, Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Jane Siberry has been doing that for the last five years. Come to your house, play a tiny show, ten people each, conversation and tea and food and stuff. Great way to make a living through your 50s, if you have loads of talent and a dwindling fanbase, afaic

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

I would pay $200 for all sorts of musicians to play my living room. And I bet most of them would not to be so lame as to profess lack of money , even the ones that were poor, let alone the rare few whose money was a matter of public record.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

Tbf Jane Sibbery seems like she's been trying to lose fans for years. Didn't she even change her name for a while? Bands and musicians should sell naming rights.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

"It hurt my feelings in an unprecedented way," she says.

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 23 June 2013 21:51 (thirteen years ago)

She's a complicated woman xp

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

Her music rules tho

align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 June 2013 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

'never before in the history of feelings has hurt been borne by one perceptive woman as i have borne this'

j., Sunday, 23 June 2013 22:19 (thirteen years ago)


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