The Beatles

xpost they certainly did not invent everything. You stand on the carpet, the carpet did not invent you.

This metaphor must be tested to the very limit.

i already have been :D

anyway, peace out, enjoy your thing

Oh god yeah.. Some people love only the carpet, they think it is shagpile and lie down on it and never move...

Anyways, it's like a lot of things: To what extent was "Bitches Brew" inspired by the beatles? Very little. But what level of trace element? We can never know.. A bit like "to what extent was wal-mart an influence on "Bitches Brew", and so on..

Most of yr post is fine nv, but lets be real, when you pretend they weren't all that you're fronting and/or wrong.

Reacting to the critical or popular acclaim of an act/artist/group/team/writer/product/weather/philosophical concept can often be understandable but is also always wrong and/or fronting and is 100% worse than any genuine reaction to the thing itself

Also fp'd u

the self-evident all thatness of the Beatles is another one of those stupid bits of hype. i'll take a thousand FPs for my right to say they was nowt special

Self-evident cant be hype, fp'd u again

I agree with every word NV has ever uttered about the Beatles

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beatles hatred washes over me anyway but when that person is inevitably all 'but omg the ROLLING STONES, they were FANTASTIC' i'm right yep thanks for playing

don't hit your arse on the way out

I think we can all agree that preferring the Monkees is acceptable though

preferring anything to anything is to be treated with suspicion iirc

The stones are prob worthy #2 tbh

Oasis coulda taken kinks for third but be here now eh

Rolling Stone are #2, too right

(by which I mean they are poop)

i'm not fond but eh, each to their own

it's when stoners are all 'wah beatles are overrated' that o_O walks in and sets up a craft stall

When anyone says anyone is overrated my reaction is usually 'why do you care stfu'

NV and Tom D otm

byrds rule 4ever

my man! throw the beatles down a well imo

I would read the shit out of a Lewisohn-type book on Zeppelin tbrr. Or Miles Davis.

― hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ditto (re: Miles, but the Who instead of Zep).

Lewisohn-type books on Zeppelin exist, but it's just huge tour diaries. Here's another thing to consider: the Beatles didn't tour during the last half of their career, so any book about them will necessarily have to focus on studio crafting for this period. With a Zep book or a Who book or even a Beach Boys book there is lots of tour listings, concert reviews, live photos, promotional posters, etc.

Also, in my experience (basically amounting to having friends tell me about their kids) kids of grade school age still discover the Beatles without parental prompting and are like whoa I found the best music.

― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTFM. This is what happened to me. I mean my folks had a few Beatles records and my favorite movie as a kid was "Yellow Submarine" on a bootleg VHS but discovering each of their albums by myself was a life-changing experience.

Thank God I never 'discovered' them

Christopher Columbus discovered 'em

Dr dre discovered em

Beatles by Dre.

I would like to throw them in a drain and then put a cast iron disc over dem

Christopher Cross discovered 'em

Superman picked up a cast iron drain cover and discovered em

They lived in a museum where people came to see 'em.

things that are boringly obvious to like but still awesome: the beatles, citizen kane, peanuts, pepperoni on pizza, batman

read that as peanuts on pizza and was like hrm!

please please please let there be an actual beatles by dre product sometime in my lifetime.

Not citizen kane

I think John messed up the lyrics to "Day Tripper." Shouldn't it be a round-trip ticket instead of one-way? Otherwise she'll be staying wherever she went.

She took him half the way there.

This thread convinced me to give these guys a listen but apparently they're not on spotify so fuck them

Not citizen kane

now who's the contrarian eh?

i guess that anyone can disagree over an individual work, welles blows my mind in many other movies. it's hardly the same level of contrarianism as writing off ten years of extraordinarily productive output form a band imo?

citizen kane is dope

but... you can dislike an album but not a band?

not this band, that would be fronting?

otm

haha yeah it is pretty funny -- we were driving somewhere last Sunday, and listening to one of those breakfast with the beatles things on the radio, and the DJ was listing off all of these obscure facts/dates etc. and i was wondering if there was any other pop cultural phenomenon that allowed for such deep nerdiness.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 16:26 (4 days ago) Permalink

My father joked years ago that they Beatles have their weekly Sunday morning shows on the radio because the Beatles are a kind of religion to some.

Strange but true: When I go to Barnes & Noble, Elvis CDs (end of recording career: 1977) and Roy Orbison CDs (end of recording career: 1988) are filed under "Oldies," while Beatles CDs (end of recording career: 1970) are filed under "Rock/Pop." As a major Elvis fan and someone who wouldn't listen to a Beatles song unless you paid me (not much, but definitely in advance), that seems kinda fucked.

have asked workers @ amoeba about this before and it has to do with when they were most popular not when they stopped making records. since the beatles have never stopped selling they remain in rock. if that makes sense.

yerp, makes sense to me. "oldies" doesn't refer to the age of the music, it refers to the kind of people who buy it. roy orbison and elvis are great, but it's generally older people buying their stuff these days. whereas, due to the continued worldwide media conspiracy, the beatles are still relevant and cool to younger people.

I'm guessing most people under 25 wouldn't listen to Elvis unless you paid them either.