TOP 10 NOW: \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\shawty got poll poll poll poll poll poll poll (part II: 2008 ALBUMS)/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

I don't think the word 'ballad' really aptly describes any song on New Amerykah except maybe "Telephone." I don't know what else you'd categorize the long R&B slow burners on the album as, but balladry seems way off.

the ladies albums keep getting put back 6 months

the long R&B slow burners makes it sound even less appealing to me I'm afraid.

seeing as we're talking about it ahead of appearance; The only ballad-y tracks on EB's album are Telephone and That Hump - both have a subtle smoky warmth, musically, that i can get with (altho i like the first half of the album more).

the ladies albums keep getting put back 6 months

TRUE. Whither thou Keri Hilson?

HGN, if you're waiting for someone to tell you that an Erykah Badu album doesn't have a lot of low key midtempo tracks before you can give a damn about listening to it then I don't think I can help you.

Time for #9?

9 - Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
262 points, 21 votes, 4 #1 votes
6 in P&J, 11 in p4k

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4017/lilwaynecarter3coverlr3.jpg

Album streaming: http://www.last.fm/music/Lil%27+Wayne/Tha+Carter+III

I fucking love this album. I love it cuz of its imperfections, silly metaphors, raspy uneven voice, for all the tracks that didn't make it, for all the pushbacks, for all the verses that dont fit and dont go anywhere. And its cuz of the cult of personality, of the feeling of event and of populist participation. I really dont understand how a rap fan would not be feeling this on some level. It's all over the place but not in a norm weezy-mixtape era, recording ten tracks a day kinda way. Its all over the place in a very concsious way. He had the sense to make songs like tie my hands and comfortable and dr carter in addition to got money and a millie and it would not have been that farfetched to expect an album of 16 tracks like the latter. This album isn't the blueprint but it is the carter iii

― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas

surprisingly low?

it tied with #8, but #8 had one more vote.

i don't like that cover

suckiness.

srsly?

it was my #1 album

it wasn't my #1 album; I think it was #6 for me...but besides Badu and The Fall, it was my only top 10 album to chart...

nah that's about where i expected it to end up - midtable scores from the ringtone crew, higher scores from others. 4 number one votes does surprise me a little!

i'm not in any way part of a carter iii backlash - for me it's not even that inconsistent an album, it's just that it's senselessly arranged, doesn't hang together well and is less than the sum of its parts (not to mention in the shadow of that carter ii). the janet jackson and lil' mama albums were also like this - take the best songs in isolation and they're right up with the cream of 2008, but the idea of discipline or voice of the young people as ALBUMS was oddly wearying - tha carter iii not so much, cuz at least it wasn't as long, but it definitely had a similar effect on me. i found i only ever listened to it in three-song bursts at most.

i sound like i'm slagging it off too much - let me be clear i really love most of the songs on tha carter iii, i voted for it and was really pleased to see weezy's huge crossover success this year - this is just why it wasn't in my top 5 or anything, as i thought it would be when i first heard it

sittin' in a caddy, right like betty
floatin' up the aisle like the bride and her daddy
hip-hop addict, hip-hop addict
man i swear i'm on top like the attic
yeah bitch, i be with my dog like shaggy
and we stay clean but we get dirty like harry
i'm flyer than bluebirds, cardinals and canaries
fuck me, i'm all about oui like paris
hilton presidential suite already
i'm richer than nicole and i'm a lion like her daddy

^^still favourite carter iii verse

wayne's album was a lot more fun to fantasize about in the endless run-up and stream of leaks than it was to actually listen to, imo.

and tvotr it seems to me have inherited the Big Important Band mantle that always needs to be held by someone. (recent emeritus: radiohead, u2, r.e.m.) which is fine, i guess, there are worse candidates out there. that i never actually want to listen to tvotr is sort of irrelevant to their position.

i just listened to that badu record again this AM in the car and it's great, but daaaamn what's with neosoul peeps addiction to meandering, boring ballads?

― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, February 16, 2009 12:40 PM (1 hour ago)

i know other people have already poounced on this but which songs were you referring to? 'me' could kind of be a ballad, too, but calling any of the songs on there boring is kinda o_0

That Lil Wayne vid^^ People listen to whole albums of this stuff? It's unbearable!

it's called "rap" music and it's sweeping the nation

hahahahahahaaaaa

lala is pretty annoying though

i do like 'Dr Carter', and not just for the Axelrod (which actually feels kinda wasted as a hook source tho can see why it was picked for the concept)

"La La" is awesome and definitely one of my favorite parts of the album (although "unbearable" is not an inaccurate description of Brisco's verse)

i am surprised to see wayne end up that low. really like the album, and obv coming in 9th is still a pretty good nod. pretty sure a couple things that beat it are going to make my blood boil a bit, but whatever

9 aint that low, c3 wasnt even the 9th best southern rap album last year

i dunno about techno and house placing in the top 10 because it seems like the bobbins crew avoided these end-of-year polls. the albums that were mentioned upthread for the house and techno category (shed and that duo who had the big radioslave remix) weren't even nommed. if i look at the top ten that i mailed in, there are only five entries that are bona fide house or techno, and part of the reason for this is because the noms were really sparse in this area. (believe me i went through the whole list quite thoroughly).

dude no joke i would kill to see your top ten list because i am way too outside and almost certainly sleeping on some great stuff.

xpost to and what

i think these lists would be quite different if more ilm regulars contributed. it seems difficult to say that this is an official ilm end-of-year list because of that.

yeah but the voter total keeps increasing - hopefully it can be more inclusive in the future

i mean 85 or however many is pretty damn good tho

I've been kicking around ILM since 2002, and this is the first year-end poll I've ever voted in. This place is full of late-adopters.

possibly interest has increased as we approach end of decade. dilemma this year may be how soon to attempt a 00s poll after an 09 poll.

ILM posters who dont vote by now are never going to vote. If you want more voters ILM will need more new blood I think. Not surprised at increased voters though as there has been a lot of new posters in the past year who do participate in ordinary polls.

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apart from him obviously haha

possibly interest has increased as we approach end of decade. dilemma this year may be how soon to attempt a 00s poll after an 09 poll.

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 16 February 2009 19:20 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tbh i didn't vote in this poll as it's clearly for lamoids, but the one thing that would interest me, rather than a "2000s" poll is a "2000" poll in 2010, a 2001 in 2011 etc etc etc.

how about a 1979 poll next week

yeah i never really participated either so i shouldn't talk shit. i gotta say that end-of-year seems more and more like an anachronism or a formality now (heh speaking of talking shit). i wonder if you'd get more or less consensus if the voter turnout was higher. if i e.g. surf the p&j lists i barely look at the top ten. instead i go directly to the critics' lists.

higher turnout = more (and duller) consensus, pretty much always. otoh low turnout is just pointless. 100 or so ballots seems a good balance.

this is the first year i voted sorry i broke your poll dudes ;_;

yeah dude now autechre is not going to win

What could make it less consensus based is if more of the ringtone/rolling metal/rolling country/rolling psych/bobbins etc voted. Lots of each just dont think its worth voting as they think their choices wont place.
Then again I dont know if that would make any difference to the top 10. The fact that hip-hop gets in the top 10 every year does suggest that at least could get higher or more entries in the top 10.

However maybe most ilxors dont want more niche acts in the top 20 considering the "i prefer the top 20 to 50-21 albums" posts that have been made here?

If bands that no-one had heard of cracked the top 5 I think there would be complaints.

8 - Air France - No Way Down
262 points, 22 votes, 1 #1 votes
171 in P&J, 14 in p4k

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3164/airfrancealbumartbb6.jpg

I'm halfway through their new EP No Way Down and it's jaw-droppingly good, "has music ever been this good" good. "Collapsing At Your Desktop" is one of the most amazing things I've heard, something like Saint Etienne's "London Belongs To Me" meets The Field. "June Evening" is gorgeous melancholy tropical pop.

This after "Hold On To Me, Baby" was already the prettiest thing I'd heard this year.

This stuff blows their first EP out of the water. They're getting better and better, and they're already the most bewitching music I've heard this year.

― Tim F

then again, this is ilx, no matter what happens someone will complain.
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Wow, I really didn't think that would make it.

OK I'm surprised an ep got in.