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haha this bore should air his rubbish on a thread not titled "the beatles"

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait no I think I had a contrairian opinion about the beatles to express, that's it. When I think of what it was, it may shock you.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

that reminds me, I need to start my 'Why Can't My Band Be A Cannon' thread

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

true story, i was briefly in a (not very good) band called Cannon.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

the beatles are no badfinger, that's for sure

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

booming post tylerw

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

lol

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

ha

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

haha this bore should air his rubbish on a thread not titled "the beatles"

― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Aw yeah, brother. That Turrican is just soooooo square... he's not hip to these fresh way-out sounds. Aw man, he's so heavy. Totally trippin' my tits off, brother. Outtasite."

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

what are some bands u like turrican

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

the Rutles

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

iirc

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

here comes the story of the turrican

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

It's an easy enough question to answer: use the search function :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Several generations later, sure, but who's come close?

― posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bands did not cease to sell large amounts of records and become popular amongst a large group of people when The Beatles broke up.

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:00 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?

― posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:03 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not trying to overly pick on you but pls tell us these bands so i can bump their threads to ask why ppl still listen to their stuff

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

turrican do i recall correctly btw that you (alongside myself) are one of ilm's few oasis fans btw because

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft poll (started by Turrican on board I Love Music on Nov 2, 2011)

POLL: Things that Richard Fairbrass is too sexy for in 'I'm Too Sexy' by Right Said Fred (started by The Jupiter 8 (Turrican) on board I Love Music on May 25, 2012)

C/D: WHITESNAKE - 'STILL OF THE NIGHT' (Song/Video) (started by The Jupiter 8 (Turrican) on board I Love Music on Jun 21, 2012)

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Preferably for threads I've posted in :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

lovekraft is a fuckin sweet album, but no beatles no sfa imo

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Indeed. "Demand" because they've been constantly mythologised for the last 40 years with needless coverage that could have been given to a then-current artist or another heritage act that deserves it just as much,

jesus man will you STFU about The Beatles for once in your life

¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

a then-current artist or another heritage act that deserves it just as much,

?????

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

turrican what is your explanation for why the media has so arbitrarily conspired for so long to foist the beatles, beatles and nothing but the beatles on us, as opposed to other equally talented "heritage acts"

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

xxxxpost:

Well yeah, there's absolutely no doubt about that. I don't think I was in any way denying that The Beatles were influential. But lots of things have been influential. The Beatles were influenced themselves by both music that I like and music that I don't.

turrican what is your explanation for why the media has so arbitrarily conspired for so long to foist the beatles, beatles and nothing but the beatles on us, as opposed to other equally talented "heritage acts"

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:17 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fuck knows. It's a big mystery I'd love to get to the bottom of.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

a then-current artist or another heritage act that deserves it just as much,

???????????

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

I would also like to know which heritage acts you are talking about

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

Chad & Jeremy

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

Herman's Hermits

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

dragging it out like this isnt going to make it look any better when your answer is the bangles or w/e

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait, btw please don't say the fucking kinks dude, just kill yourself before you post that

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

I would also like to know which heritage acts you are talking about

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:28 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pretty much all of them :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

just kill yourself before you post that

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:30 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Just kill yourself! Peace and love! Peace and love! Just kill yourself!"

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

the last guy I knew who thought the kinks were better than the beatles was this weird longhaired guy who lived upstairs from me, never smiled, never moved out of our college town, and rumoredly drank himself to death

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

ah here the kinks are at least in the realm of a thoughtful nod ffs

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

the kinks are a perfectly good band! I just have had nothing but bad experiences with people who insist they're better than the beatles.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

poll

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

we should just poll every band ever, one-by-one against the beatles

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

until one wins

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

no wait this is ilm

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

they'd all win, ilm sucks

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

Was gonna say if you think ILM would not choose The Shaggs and Nickelback over the Beatles you have not been paying attention.

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

from the thread "Jefferson Airplane":

Better than the Beatles.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, March 9, 2005 11:45 PM (8 years ago)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

People who insist that they hate the Beatles - C or D?

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 6 June 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

The Beatles have had more number-one albums on the British charts and sold more singles in the UK than any other act. According to the RIAA, they are the best-selling band in the United States, with 177 million certified units. In 2008, the group topped Billboard magazine's list of the all-time most successful "Hot 100" artists. As of 2013, they hold the record for most number-one hits on the Hot 100 chart with 20. They have received 7 Grammy Awards, an Academy Award for Best Original Song Score and 15 Ivor Novello Awards. Collectively included in Time magazine's compilation of the 20th century's 100 most influential people, the Beatles are the best-selling band in history, with EMI Records estimating sales of over one billion units.

ur foolin nobody world, you dont reeeally like them

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

I think Nate Dogg already beat the Beatles in one such poll.

I really do think the Beatles were uniquely popular - and central to pop culture - for a sustained period of time. There really is almost no act in the same league, not even Elvis maybe (and anyway their music is more interesting). I mean, you brought up Radiohead - go to the mall now and ask every teenager to sing a Radiohead song and hardly any will be able to do it. Perform the equivalent Beatles experiment in 1965 and I won't say EVERY teen can do it but the number is going to be way, way higher. And I bet most of them own at least one Beatle recording. The numbers for MJ in the 80s are closer to Beatles but surely not as high. So in the land of my baseless made up thought experiment anyway, it just makes sense that more people are going to grow up and want to read and write Beatle crap.

This isn't to say that I don't want a Mark Lewisohn for lots of other bands, but the market may simply not be there. Alternately, it may be that the market isn't interested in band crap at all, but can be interested in crap that delves into minutia of stories they already know very well. It turns out that the Beatles happen to be the musical version of this and the Kennedy assassination is the political one, but basically the pop matrix only has room for one band whose propulsive narrative admits of ever more filling-in, revisionism, and reconsideration. The Beatles just happened to get the job, by virtue of all of the above, and the music is solid enough that younger generations don't just tune it out as grandpa gibberish about some oldtimey band they don't care about.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

it would be remiss of me to forego pointing out that radiohead are shite, and a muuuch better example of a band popular for reasons of the perceived benefits of fandom vs their actual recorded output, which is totally without merit since 1997

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

I would read the shit out of a Lewisohn-type book on Zeppelin tbrr. Or Miles Davis.

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

i've always wanted to read a 'revolution in the head' style book about elvis.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

Heck, a book on just the first Miles quintet would be great.

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

i like the idea of elvis being the 'other' inescapable pop figure because in a way he's sort of the anti-beatles -- instead of this universally beloved band with a very compact, well-documented, and more or less perfect recording career, you have this very polarising figure who's universally familiar and simultaneously loved and sort of held in contempt, who has this huge messy sprawling career that it's almost impossible to make sense of, whose very existence changed the game so much that it's hard to really grasp how his initial audiences saw him. and yet somehow he's still huge.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:53 (eleven years ago) link


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