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The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

I *liked* the Beatles in a pretty non-attached way from very early on, maybe 8 or 9 years old, hearing them on oldies radio. But I didn't love them until I listened to my mom's copy of Abbey Road. She grew up with them, but was hardly a fanatic or anything -- in fact, after I found them (unprompted by her btw), it was usually me asking her things like "how could you have lived through Sgt Pepper and not realized what kind of genius you were hearing?"

The Beatles, kind of like Michael Jackson, are going to have that aura of "greatness" for a long time, divorced of their music, just because of how big they were. It is a BONUS that their music happens to be good. I can't stress that enough: I don't really give a shit about most big acts from the past that I hear UNLESS it turns out I actually like them. The Beatles wrote songs that didn't sound like anyone else, on both a technical level, and in singing about things that mattered to most people, in a unique way.

Yes, they were absolutely in the right place at the right time. But, it was SO right, and they navigated being FAMOUS and GOOD so well, it's hard not to at least be impressed, even if you really don't like the music. I happen to like the music, happen to think Lennon & McCartney are as good a pair of songwriters as has ever existed. Gershwin wrote some stupid songs too. So did Bob Dylan and Franz Schubert. I will never love any of those people as much as I love the Beatles.

Dominique, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

after I found them (unprompted by her btw), it was usually me asking her things like "how could you have lived through Sgt Pepper and not realized what kind of genius you were hearing?"

haha I was totally like this with my parents too. they found my Beatlemania perplexing. my mom routinely mixed up details (confusing John for Paul etc) and my dad had attachment to them at all (his favorite band was the Lovin Spoonful)

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

dad had NO

that should say

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

if you tell enough people who weren't around when a band was active that they were the best thing that's ever happened in music and no other band that has ever come since will ever be as important, they will eventually begin to believe it and increase the "demand".

tbh i refuse to believe that even a single person in the world felt bullied into liking the beatles because they heard how 'important' they were to a previous generation. the fact is that the beatles' music sounds generally pretty un-dated, apart from some of the explicitly 'psychedelic' stuff -- there's no reason that ppl who were born after the '60s shouldn't find it accessible.

music magazines don't do beatles cover stories because of some conspiracy to make ppl like the beatles, they do it because a) music magazines are lazy and beatles features are easy to write and b) same reason they put hendrix or nirvana on the cover -- it sells magazines.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

I've always heard these stories about not liking the Beatles until, say, the White Album because up to then, it was all teeny-bopper shit.

pplains, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

This is just that fuckin 'WHY CANT MYYYYYYY BAND BE CANON' argument all over again, sorry that lots of ppl like the beatles so much, wtf, stop makin up reasons for it to satisfy yr own personal fetish for new/different music (ilmers in general suffer from this dreadful affliction to a far greater extent than normal ppl) go love the music you love, this is not a conspiracy, peace out, ps beatles pwn all the bands you didnt mention since

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

word on the streets is that the beatles are really good

Z S, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

i have something interesting to say about the beatles

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

it's

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

wait

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

um

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Come on, come on!

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

*ooooo*

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

I think it was "I don't really like Bob Dylan"

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

dylan is mostly shite tho tbf

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

maybe if he'd had ringo on drums but we'll never know

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

This is just that fuckin 'WHY CANT MYYYYYYY BAND BE CANON' argument all over again

― posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:02 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually, it isn't.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

?

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

haha this bore should air his rubbish on a thread not titled "the beatles"

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait no I think I had a contrairian opinion about the beatles to express, that's it. When I think of what it was, it may shock you.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

that reminds me, I need to start my 'Why Can't My Band Be A Cannon' thread

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

true story, i was briefly in a (not very good) band called Cannon.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

the beatles are no badfinger, that's for sure

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

booming post tylerw

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

lol

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

ha

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

haha this bore should air his rubbish on a thread not titled "the beatles"

― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:51 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Aw yeah, brother. That Turrican is just soooooo square... he's not hip to these fresh way-out sounds. Aw man, he's so heavy. Totally trippin' my tits off, brother. Outtasite."

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

what are some bands u like turrican

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

the Rutles

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

iirc

Mr. Scarf Ace is Back (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

here comes the story of the turrican

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

It's an easy enough question to answer: use the search function :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Several generations later, sure, but who's come close?

― posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bands did not cease to sell large amounts of records and become popular amongst a large group of people when The Beatles broke up.

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:00 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

?

― posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:03 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not trying to overly pick on you but pls tell us these bands so i can bump their threads to ask why ppl still listen to their stuff

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

turrican do i recall correctly btw that you (alongside myself) are one of ilm's few oasis fans btw because

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft poll (started by Turrican on board I Love Music on Nov 2, 2011)

POLL: Things that Richard Fairbrass is too sexy for in 'I'm Too Sexy' by Right Said Fred (started by The Jupiter 8 (Turrican) on board I Love Music on May 25, 2012)

C/D: WHITESNAKE - 'STILL OF THE NIGHT' (Song/Video) (started by The Jupiter 8 (Turrican) on board I Love Music on Jun 21, 2012)

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Preferably for threads I've posted in :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

lovekraft is a fuckin sweet album, but no beatles no sfa imo

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

Indeed. "Demand" because they've been constantly mythologised for the last 40 years with needless coverage that could have been given to a then-current artist or another heritage act that deserves it just as much,

jesus man will you STFU about The Beatles for once in your life

¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

a then-current artist or another heritage act that deserves it just as much,

?????

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

turrican what is your explanation for why the media has so arbitrarily conspired for so long to foist the beatles, beatles and nothing but the beatles on us, as opposed to other equally talented "heritage acts"

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

xxxxpost:

Well yeah, there's absolutely no doubt about that. I don't think I was in any way denying that The Beatles were influential. But lots of things have been influential. The Beatles were influenced themselves by both music that I like and music that I don't.

turrican what is your explanation for why the media has so arbitrarily conspired for so long to foist the beatles, beatles and nothing but the beatles on us, as opposed to other equally talented "heritage acts"

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:17 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fuck knows. It's a big mystery I'd love to get to the bottom of.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

a then-current artist or another heritage act that deserves it just as much,

???????????

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

I would also like to know which heritage acts you are talking about

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

Chad & Jeremy

Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

Herman's Hermits

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link

dragging it out like this isnt going to make it look any better when your answer is the bangles or w/e

posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait, btw please don't say the fucking kinks dude, just kill yourself before you post that

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

I would also like to know which heritage acts you are talking about

― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:28 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pretty much all of them :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link


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