@Bee OK: Are there any songs from 1981-1993 that didn't get a vote?
this will be interesting to find out, have some things to do but will get back to you on this one.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 2 June 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
the vote count you posted for the songs was complete right? we should be able to figure out the answer to that from those figures.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
I always under-rate Temptation, probably because I have the original 7" and the snare is mixed too damn loud. Later mixes reveal the true glory of the tune. Anyway, I guess my ballot is pretty uncontroversial, although I would have liked to see Chosen Time and Ecstasy place higher than they did.
1. Ceremony2. Chosen Time3. True Faith4. Blue Monday5. Shellshock6. Age of Consent7. Leave Me Alone8. Procession9. Ecstasy10. Regret11. Doubts Even Here12. World (Price of Love)13. Bizarre Love Triangle14. Confusion15. The Perfect Kiss16. Thieves Like Us17. Dream Attack18. Your Silent Face19. Dreams Never End20. Temptation21. Everything’s Gone Green22. Vanishing Point23. 196324. The Village25. Fine Time26. We All Stand27. 58628. Sunrise29. Someone Like You30. Young Offender31. Ultraviolence32. Avalanche33. Waiting for the Siren’s Call34. 60 Miles an Hour35. Crystal36. Round and Round37. Run 238. Liar39. Subculture40. All Day Long
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
in fact, Ecstasy didn't make the 50 at all, did it?
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
I had Chosen Time at number 1 and I forgot to vote for Hurt :(
chosen timeeverything gone greenperfect kissvanishing pointtemptationconfusionceremonyhere to staymr discosubculturesensesface upregrettrue faithtouched by the hand of godrunall the waylove lessguilty partnershellshockthis time of nightsunrisedenialthe himdreams never endultraviolenceBLTDenialEcstacythe villageleave me alone586Paradisefine timeruined in a daycrystallonesome tonightway of lifeas it is when it waswe all stand
Albums
TechniqueSubstanceMovementLow LifePCL
Videos
Perfect KissConfusionTouched by the hand of god
― Culture Cub (I am using your worlds), Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks Bee and Millsner. My ballot:
1. Dream Attack (10)2. True Faith (3)3. Bizarre Love Triangle (6)4. Ceremony (2)5. 1963 (14)6. Blue Monday (9)7. Your Silent Face (8)8. All Day Long (29)9. Temptation (1)10. Elegia (37)11. Round & Round (19)12. Sub-Culture (24)13. Age of Consent (7)14. Run (23)15. All the Way (18)16. Regret (5)17. Don’t Do It18. Lonesome Tonight (25)19. Vanishing Point (11)20. Love Vigilantes (15)21. Waiting for the Sirens’ Call (47)22. Touched by the Hand of God (38)23. Paradise24. Mr Disco (32)25. Doubts Even Here (44)26. Ruined in a Day (K-Klass Remix) (45)27. The Perfect Kiss (4)28. Way of Life29. Fine Time (21)30. Turn31. Every Little Counts32. 5-8-6 (31)33. Dreams Never End (17)34. Sunrise (42)35. In a Lonely Place (34)36. Everything’s Gone Green (13)37. World in Motion38. Krafty39. Slow Jam40. Brutal
More love needed for Don't Do It
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 June 2013 08:00 (eleven years ago) link
My thanks too guys, great stuff. Here's my ballot.
Tracks (unranked)Fine TimeWeirdoLove VigilantesBizarre Love TriangleTrue Faith1963Blue MondayYour Silent FaceDream AttackEverything's Gone GreenTemptationBlue MondayRegretAll the WayMr DiscoRound and RoundIn a Lonely PlaceConfusionAge of ConsentTouched by the Hand of GodProcessionUltraviolenceRun 2Ruined in a DayTurn My WayEvery Little CountsThe Perfect KissSubcultureRegret (Sabres Slow 'n' Low mix)Vanishing PointDreams Never EndICBThe VillageWorldWorld in MotionLet's GoTheme from Best & MarshSuch a Good ThingVideo 5861963 (Arthur Baker remix)
AlbumsTechniquePower, Corruption & LiesSubstanceMovementLowlife
VideosTouched by the Hand of GodTrue FaithBlue MondayWorld in MotionRuined in a Day
― Neil S, Monday, 3 June 2013 08:34 (eleven years ago) link
SONGS (ranked)
The HimDream AttackTrue Faith1963Doubts Even HereFine TimeProcessionElegiaCries and WhispersSunriseTruthTemptationIn A Lonely PlaceHurtDenialSensesThieves Like UsConfusionGuilty PartnerCrystalThis Time of NightHere To StayMorning Night and Day60 MPHJetstreamLonesome TonightGuilt Is A Useless EmotionVicious StreakSomeone Like YouRegretRuined In A DayBizarre Love TriangleSlow JamShellshockBlue MondayMeshMurderWe All StandLove LessChosen Time
ALBUMS
SubstanceMovementTechniqueGet ReadyWaiting For The Sirens CallPower, Corruption and LiesRepublicBrotherhoodLow LifeLost Sirens
VIDEOS
Touched By The Hand of GodConfusionCrystalTrue FaithBizarre Love Triangle
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
"The Him"!!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
"The Him" is the most underrated song in the New Order catalog by miles
also I said upthread that no one else was going to agree with my #1, lol
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
My list -- I would have placed Leave Me Alone easily in the top 10 if I had remembered to add it.
1 Temptation2 Bizarre Love Triangle3 Age Of Consent4 Perfect Kiss5 Procession6 Ceremony7 Dreams Never End8 All The Way9 The Village10 Weirdo11 Every Little Counts12 Face Up13 As It Is When It Was14 Lonesome Tonight15 Way Of Life16 Fine Time17 Chosen Time18 Paradise19 In A Lonely Place20 Love Less21 Senses22 Turn The Heater On23 Thieves Like Us24 Love Vigilantes25 Run26 Dream Attack27 ICB28 Confusion29 196330 Everything's Gone Green31 Denial32 Mr Disco33 Mesh34 Vanishing Point35 Krafty36 Murder37 Run Wild38 State of The Nation39 Cries and Whispers40 Shellshock
― righteousmaelstrom, Monday, 3 June 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
I posted a link to my Spotify playlist on Facebook and the only reaction I've gotten so far is "NO BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE????"
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
BLT's there, no? Maybe I chose a source that's not licensed in all territories.
I would have guessed there was more love out there for "The Him". Certainly my favourite Movement track behind "Dreams Never End". (Which I thought was obvious top 10 material, for that matter, so I'm quite clueless.) More colour and movement than other still-sounds-like-Joy-Division dirges like, say, "In a Lonely Place".
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 3 June 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
Talking about my ballot, not the countdown.
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-3640378-1338731156-4254.jpeg
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
My cassette of PCL was a weird one! Black plastic with white print... I think it had Spanish legal on it.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Listened to Republic on my ride into work today. I think a lot of the lyrics to World were taken directly from meetings about the demise of Factory.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Looking at this record label makes me imagine what Technique would be like in Spanish...
http://new-order.eu/diskografie/graphics/techniquearpromolabela.jpg
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
Socio Culpable is a great title.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
That's what I thought! Could easily be a New Order song title in its own right, that! :D
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
lol "dando vueltas"
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
i'm pretty sure, will go down and post findings.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:42 (eleven years ago) link
MovementDreams Never End 32Truth 8Senses 12Chosen Time 18-2ICB 15The Him 8-1Doubts Even Here 14Denial 11
CD2 (B-Sides)Ceremony 38-5Temptation 40-9 In a Lonely Place 21Everything’s Gone Green 31Procession 28-3Cries And Whispers 18Hurt 14Mesh 13
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
Power, Corruption & LiesAge Of Consent 35We All Stand 8The Village 265 8 6 (22)Your Silent Face 35-1Ultraviolence 14Ecstasy 10Leave Me Alone 27
CD (B-Sides)Blue Monday 33-1 The Beach 3Confusion 28Thieves Like Us 28 Lonesome Tonight 25Murder 10Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) 1*Confusion (Instrumental)
*No Votes
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
Low-LifeLove Vigilantes 34-1The Perfect Kiss 38-4This Time of Night 9Sunrise 19Elegia 23Sooner Than You Think 11Sub-culture 23Face Up 20
CD (B-Side only)Shellshock 22Shame of the Nation 1Let's Go 5Salvation themeDub Vulture
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
BrotherhoodParadise 11 Weirdo 15As It Is When It Was 8Broken Promise 8Way Of Life 9Bizarre Love Triangle 37All Day Long 23-1Angel Dust 7Every Little Counts 12
State of the Nation 10
CD2 (B-side only)1963 (30)True Faith 38Touched by the Hand Of God 19Evil Dust 1
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 05:15 (eleven years ago) link
Technique
9 Dream Attack10 Vanishing Point18 All The Way19 Round & Round21 Fine Time23 Run32 Mr Disco39 Love Less41 Guilty Partner
CD2 (B-sides only)Don’t Do It 2Fine LineBest & Marsh 2Run 2 (4)MTO 3
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 05:20 (eleven years ago) link
...so I might as well link this here:
http://thequietus.com/articles/12436-new-order-power-corruption-and-lies-review
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
at last!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
Indeed! And thanks again for reading over the draft there.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
I know I talk PC&L down in comparison to Movement, Technique and the 00s albums, but it really is a great album.
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
For me it's just so blisteringly self-evident that PCL is their magnum opus. And I'll always love 'Your Silent Face' above all. The first minute or so of that track is sublimity itself to me.
This was a great poll thread. I wasn't in the right frame of mind to make a ballot when it was voting time but I had a heavy deadline last weekend and spent all weekend listening to NO thanks to this thread. (The Recycle blog versions, naturally-- damn they sound so much better than the officials).
Used the Spotify thread to hear the 00s stuff I've never heard before. Not feeling it so far. There's no fatness to the sound and Barney's voice sounds anonymous. Will try harder.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
If there's no fatness to the sound, you might want to double-check your speakers/headphone because you are likely missing the sub bass on the dancier songs. (Also I think Barney sounds "in tune" rather than "anonymous" but YMMV)
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
Full disclosure, his sound on 'Waiting For the Siren's Call' reminded me of the kid from Owl City and I freaked our and bolted
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
our = out
Had a lot of fun listening to the Spotify playlist yesterday. Great choices except my TOO LOW goes to Subculture. I would have thrown Waiting for the Sirens' Call a bone as well.
― skip, Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
I'm listening to Brotherhood at the moment and can't help cracking into a smile at the way Bernard sings the word "key" on 'Weirdo'... also, I'm sure that this is the album that Bernard does the most Michael Jackson-style "whooping" on... it's a real whoopfest.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
kiiiiey
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
fantastic review Ned, thanks for sharing.
― Bee OK, Friday, 7 June 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link
i forgot i did this, check out these results:
New Order - Movement CD2 Poll (era A-sides, B-sides and Remixes)
― Bee OK, Monday, 10 June 2013 05:48 (ten years ago) link
has anyone really warmed up to Lost Sirens it is an album i don't know and wonder if it actually worth my time?
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 02:21 (ten years ago) link
you i glanced at this list and see "I'll Stay With YOu" got two votes so i you tubed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0aiQxozKGc
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link
what happened there? anyways yeah that song is good. now listening to "California Grass."
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
that song is good too, will have to listen to this album. i burnt out of New Order with this poll but was really in the mood to hear them tonight when i got home from work.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
so tonight i have listened to some New Order and have been looking over the list. number 51 was "Turn the Heater On" actually, embarrassingly, hearing this for the first time.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:46 (ten years ago) link
52 was "Senses" and this video is kind of blowing my mind right now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPsu_CIoh0
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link
just saw them play live and it was so fantastic! they played 7 of my top 10 poll tracks.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 July 2013 04:59 (ten years ago) link
that is amazing.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link
i would have been happy with just three.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 July 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link
five joy division songs too, which apparently is pretty standard these days... I avoided looking at their recent setlists in order to enjoy the surprise. nothing from technique! and it wasn't in my top ten, but I was pleased they decided to play "world (the price of love)" and "here to stay." go see them if you get the chance! we danced from start to finish, so fun.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 20 July 2013 06:22 (ten years ago) link