also thanks to all the voters, makes ILM a special place.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:09 (thirteen years ago)
The pleasure was all ours, Bee! Looking forward to your Boos poll, although I can't imagine it'll get as many ballots as this one has... still looking forward to it, though!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)
I have an odd half-memory that I learned about Blue Monday being the biggest selling 12" of all time from an episode of A Question of Sport. It's perhaps the most boring memory I have
I love this. I also reckon it wasn't a big seller at all, but that that story and the losing money one were cooked up specifically in a print-the-legend thing
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)
Well, 'Blue Monday' went onto sell over a million copies on 12", so it was a big seller... I think they lost money on the original sleeve with the cut-outs (5p per sleeve), but apparently once that batch run out it was issued in a much less expensive sleeve, so the amount of money they actually lost is up for debate. They definitely didn't lose 5p on all the copies that were sold, if Peter Saville is to be believed.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
1. Temptation2. True Faith3. All The Way4. Regret5. Leave Me Alone6. This Time of Night7. Weirdo8. Ceremony9. Lonesome Tonight10. Confusion11. Broken Promise12. Age of Consent13. Procession14. Everyone Everywhere15. Crystal16. Dream Attack17. Touched By the Hand of God18. Senses19. 196320. Face Up21. Love Less22. Morning Night and Day23. Here to Stay24. All Day Long25. Dreams Never End26. Mr. Disco27. World (The Price of Love)28. As It Is When It Was29. Your Silent Face30. The Village31. Cries and Whispers32. Perfect Kiss33. Run34. Krafty35. Primitive Notions36. Special37. Round and Round38. Sunrise39. Angel Dust40. Run Wild
ALBUMS
1. Technique2. Low-Life3. Brotherhood4. PCL5. Republic
VIDEOS
1. Confusion2. Perfect Kiss3. Crystal4. Regret5. Blue Monday '88
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)
@Bee OK: Are there any songs from 1981-1993 that didn't get a vote?
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)
I mean, it would be pretty interesting to see which are actually ILM's least favourite New Order songs from their most active time.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)
Pleased to see I wasn't alone in voting for "Don't Do It" or "Avalanche". :)
01 Procession 02 Ceremony 03 Age Of Consent 04 Dreams Never End 05 Leave Me Alone 06 The Perfect Kiss 07 Cries And Whispers 08 Face Up 09 Your Silent Face 10 Elegia 11 Thieves Like Us 12 Bizarre Love Triangle 13 Temptation 14 Regret 15 Mesh 16 Love Vigilantes 17 The Him 18 Broken Promise 19 Hurt 20 Chosen Time 21 I.C.B. 22 Guilty Partner 23 The Village 24 5 8 6 25 Everything's Gone Green 26 Truth 27 Vanishing Point 28 Sooner Than You Think 29 Angel Dust 30 Blue Monday 31 All the Way 32 Don't Do It 33 Sunrise 34 All Day Long 35 1963 [1987] 36 Lonesome Tonight 37 In a Lonely Place 38 Turn the Heater On 39 Avalanche 40 Here To Stay
Thanks Bee OK and Millsner!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:23 (thirteen years ago)
36 Lonesome Tonight
Pathetic, my Naggy.
― Kent Burt, Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks Bee OK and Millsner! This poll was a lot of fun!
Songs unweighted, any order would have taken too much time and to be honest, my favorites change regularly.
58660 Miles An Hour1963 [original B-side 7" Version]All Day LongAll The WayBizarre Love TriangleCalifornian GrassCeremonyCries And Whispers Dream AttackDreams Never EndEverything's Gone GreenGuilty PartnerHey Now What You DoingHurt I'll Stay With YouI.C.BIn A Lonely PlaceKrafty Leave Me AloneLonesome TonightLove VigilantesMesh Mr DiscoMurderProcessionRegretRunSooner Than You ThinkSunriseTemptation [Original 12" Version]The Perfect Kiss [Live version from Video]Thieves Like UsThis Time of NightTouched By The Hand Of GodTrue Faith Vanishing PointWe All StandWeirdoYour Silent Face
Albums I thought the comps. didn't count. Substance would have been my #3.
MovementTechniquePower, Corruption and LiesLow LifeBrotherhoodWaiting For The Sirens CallLost SirensRepublicGet Ready
Videos
Round And RoundTruth FaithThe Perfect KissShell ShockTouched By The Hand Of God
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:27 (thirteen years ago)
Just wait 'til tomorrow.I guess that's what they all say... just before they fall apart :/
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican)
These are some of my favourite lyrics ever.
I'm a tiny bit disappointed Ceremony beat out Regret (my second favourite song of all time) but can't complain really, this has been my favourite poll so far. One of the few polls where I like every song that's placed.
Great work Bee and Millsner
1. Regret2. Thieves Like Us3. All The Way4. The Perfect Kiss5. Vanishing Point6. Round & Round7. Bizarre Love Triangle8. 19639. Waiting For The Siren's Call10. True Faith11. Dream Attack12. Procession13. Your Silent Face14. Age of Consent15. World (The Price of Love)16. Ruined in a Day17. Love Vigilantes18. Crystal19. Mr Disco20. Leave Me Alone21. Temptation22. Elegia23. Love Less24. All Day Long25. Guilty Partner26. Everyone Everywhere27. Vicious Streak28. Touched By The Hand of God29. Run Wild30. Paradise31. This Time of Night32. Blue Monday33. Dreams Never End34. Ceremony35. Face Up36. Turn37. The Village38. Sooner Than You Think39. Shellshock40. We All Stand
1. Technique2. Low-Life3. Substance4. Power, Corruption & Lies5. Republic6. Brotherhood7. Get Ready8. Movement9. Waiting For The Siren's Call10. Lost Sides
1. The Perfect Kiss2. True Faith3. Touched By The Hand of God4. Ruined in a Day5. Confusion
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)
This has been a blast Bee and Millsner!
1-40
CeremonyEverything's Gone GreenBlue Monday True FaithDoubts Even HereTemptationDream AttackRegretThe VillageThe Perfect Kiss1963Bizarre Love TriangleRound and RoundShellshockAge Of ConsentVanishing PointYour Silent FaceThieves Like UsFine TimeLonesome Tonight586Leave Me AloneProcessionGuilty PartnerFace UpSubcultureConfusionDreams Never EndSunriseLove VigilantesState of The NationCrystalTouched By The Hand of GodCries and WhispersEcstasyElegiaRunUltraviolenceAngel DustIn A Lonely Place
― kraudive, Saturday, 1 June 2013 22:06 (thirteen years ago)
Looking forward to your Boos poll
i want to update Wikipedia for the Boo Radleys poll. will have to learn how to update pages though, it looks kind of complex.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 1 June 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
i'm doing Steely Dan next.
hooray! Just a couple of nights ago I was searching around assuming I'd missed the Steely Dan poll, would think it would be top of the ILM list.
― Theodor Adorbsno (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:11 (thirteen years ago)
5 number ones only ties Ceremony with Dream Attack.
― Millsner, Saturday, June 1, 2013 11:31 PM (Yesterday)
This kind of sums up the poll for me ... I never knew that people liked "Dream Attack" so much.
Why were remixes of Regret and 1963 counted separately? Wasn't Run 2 the only exception to this?
Many thanks to Millsner and Bee for doing this poll!
TRACKS (ranked)
RegretTemptationFine TimeCeremonyBizarre Love TriangleLeave Me AloneRunTrue Faith1963Blue MondayYour Silent FaceAll the WayDreams Never End TruthEverything's Gone GreenLonesome TonightPerfect KissTouched By the Hand of GodThe VillageRound and RoundIn a Lonely PlaceAge of ConsentLove LessRuined in a DayKraftyCrystalConfusionThieves Like UsState of the NationElegiaLove VigilantesWorldWorld In MotionFace UpVanishing PointWaiting For the Sirens CallTurn My WayRock the ShackEveryone EverywhereTurn
TechniquePower Corruption and LiesGet ReadyLow LifeWaiting for the Sirens Call
The Perfect KissTouched By the Hand of GodWorldConfusionCrystal
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 2 June 2013 00:51 (thirteen years ago)
this is because that same person voted for "Regret" and "1963" separately. both times the originals came out on top. that is why i took out "Run 2" but now think that i should have included it with the original countdown.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 2 June 2013 01:49 (thirteen years ago)
my mistake
― Bee OK, Sunday, 2 June 2013 01:50 (thirteen years ago)
my ballot:
Blue MondayYour Silent FaceTemptationTrue FaithChosen TimeDreams Never EndIn A Lonely PlaceCeremonyI.C.B.DenialThieves Like UsBizarre Love TriangleEverything's Gone GreenCries And WhispersUltraviolenceHurtThe VillageAge of ConsentAngel DustWe All StandEvery Little CountsDoubts Even HereProcessionEcstasy5 8 6Love VigilantesMeshMurderThe HimConfusionSub-CultureElegiaThe Perfect KissShellshock
― ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 2 June 2013 01:52 (thirteen years ago)
I'll just share my top 10 and top 5 albums (and I like Turrican's putting the final rankings, so I'll bite that as well):
SONGS1 The Perfect Kiss (#4)2 Ceremony (#2)3 Your Silent Face (#8)4 Temptation (#1)5 Regret (#5)6 Bizarre Love Triangle (#6)7 Dreams Never End (#17)8 Age of Consent (#7)9 Thieves Like Us (#16)10 Everything's Gone Green (#13)
ALBUMS1 Republic (#6)2 Substance (#7)3 Movement (#4)4 Power Corruption and Lies (#2)5 Brotherhood (#5)
My only real surprise is that Dreams Never End didn't end up in the top ten, I assumed there were enough Movement-heads voting to ensure that. All my friends have always hated Thieves Like Us, so I was prepared for that not ranking as high I ranked it. Another fun poll! Thanks to Bee OK and Millsner for their efforts, it was much appreciated. And now I'm going to spend some time listening to Low-Life, which I never gave the attention it probably deserves.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 03:19 (thirteen years ago)
Kudos. Republic #1!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2013 03:35 (thirteen years ago)
TemptationRegretCeremonyTrue FaithWorldKraftyLove VigilantesLeave Me AloneCrystalLet's GoAge of ConsentWaiting for the Sirens' CallRound and RoundBizarre Love TriangleVanishing Point1963ElegiaTouched by the Hand of GodDreams Never EndConfusionAll the WayShellshockThieves Like UsAll Day LongHere To StayTurnFace UpLove LessRunThe VillageThe Perfect KissDream AttackEvery Little CountsRock the ShackLonesome TonightCries and WhispersParadiseWeirdoRun WildSpecial
Albums:SubstanceLow-LifeTechniqueWaiting for the Sirens' CallPCLBrotherhoodRepublicMovementGet Ready
Videos:WorldThe Perfect KissTrue FaithTouched by the Hand of GodConfusion
― Euler, Sunday, 2 June 2013 03:37 (thirteen years ago)
I think I'm going to spend all tomorrow listening to New Order.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:23 (thirteen years ago)
This poll:
http://blue-beards-and-jeans.tumblr.com/post/30813903833
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:24 (thirteen years ago)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcqrk3ibsl1rylhq2o1_500.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:25 (thirteen years ago)
wow you guys really don't like Blue Monday do you
― ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:26 (thirteen years ago)
I like showing the 12" to teenagers and seeing if they can figure out what it is.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:35 (thirteen years ago)
if ILM didn't like the song it would not have shown up in the Top 10. "Blue Monday" had over exposure to deal with and it still landed at number 9.
in other words, i'm impressed with its standing. a true classic, still in 2013.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:55 (thirteen years ago)
Also most of us prefer Fanta Orange to Sunkist, which didn't help.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:58 (thirteen years ago)
More seriously, I feel like most of my top ten, save the top three, could have gone in almost any order. New Order's singles and best album tracks just have a very large top tier.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 06:01 (thirteen years ago)
44 ballots, 33 votes for Blue Monday, makes 11 who do not like it.
― Mark G, Sunday, 2 June 2013 10:57 (thirteen years ago)
Blue Monday placing #9 feels like an overcorrection to me -- even as I had it at 10.
Vanishing PointAge of ConsentTrue FaithRun Chosen TimeIn a Lonely PlaceShellshockPerfect KissAll the WayBlue MondayBizarre Love TriangleCeremonyFace UpWeirdoLove Less1963TemptationThieves Like UsAll Day LongEverything's Gone GreenLeave Me AloneDoubts Even HereRegretDream AttackWaiting for the Siren's CallLove VigilantesProcession
TechniquePower, Corruption and LiesMovementBrotherhoodLow Life
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:50 (thirteen years ago)
xpost Or 11 people who didn't bother voting for it because they knew it would end high no matter what and wanted to lend their support to some other song.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:51 (thirteen years ago)
it's just weird to me, people saying it's "overplayed," because I NEVER hear that song and it's so obviously great
― ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:57 (thirteen years ago)
I hear the '88 remix a bunch on one of the local commercial radio stations.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:58 (thirteen years ago)
they don't play any version on the radio here, though I guess I should be glad because I don't like the '88 version
― ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
In the early-mid 2000s Blue Monday felt like the token 'pop' moment on a million electro house mixes.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:05 (thirteen years ago)
Except maybe for my #1 (and absence of "Blue Monday"), this is like all my ballots where I'm just a casual fan--what a K-Tel best-of would look like:
1. “All Day Long” (50)2. “Dreams Never End” (46)3. “Ceremony” (43)4. “Temptation” (40)5. “Love Vigilantes” (38)6. “Bizarre Love Triangle” (36)7. “Fine Time” (35)8. “The Perfect Kiss” (34)9. “Your Silent Face” (33)10. “Everything’s Gone Green” (32)
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:28 (thirteen years ago)
"Blue Monday" is ok, but I like a bunch of other NO songs more. It was never a pop event in my world the way say "True Faith" was, and I like NO best when they mix the robotic and human more amply.
― Euler, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
First things first: fantastic job on the poll, Bee and millsner! Thank you!
Here's my ballot:
Top Albums:1. Technique2. Brotherhood3. Power, Corruption and Lies4. Low-Life5. Get Ready
Top Songs:1. Dream Attack2. Vanishing Point3. Ceremony4. Age of Consent5. Procession6. All Day Long7. Love Vigilantes8. Here to Stay9. Dreams Never End10. True Faith11. Mr. Disco12. Temptation13. Bizarre Love Triangle14. Round and Round15. Blue Monday16. Leave Me Alone17. Ecstacy18. Elegia19. Your Silent Face20. Guilty Partner21. Everything's Gone Green22. Sunrise23. 196324. Someone Like You25. Weirdo26. The Perfect Kiss27. 60 Miles an Hour28. All the Way29. In A Lonely Place30. Way of Life31. Waiting for the Sirens' Call32. As it is When it Was33. Krafty34. Regret35. Love Less36. Doubts Even Here37. Crystal38. Best and Marsh39. The Village40. Primitive Notion
RE: 'Blue Monday'Yeah, I didn't place it that high for two reasons: 1) I figured it was a lock for the top ten, if not the top five and 2) I like it, yet it's never been my favorite anything. It's certainly a landmark moment in pop music, and a darn catchy tune, but they also have such a strong catalogue. It's really remarkable when you think about the high quality of their output up until the early 90's.
Overall, I am disappointed in the top five, but I can't honestly say that it's not totally representative of some of their best work — which just speaks volumes about how great they were (and still are, to a certain degree).
― Austin, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:45 (thirteen years ago)
Saw bunches of NO 12" at the record store yesterday -- the new arrivals bin looked like someone ~ 4 yrs older than me unloaded her entire youth into the bin. It was kinda sad!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:53 (thirteen years ago)
My ballot. I've always thought of them as one of the best singles bands ever, so I didn't rank the albums, but this poll encouraged me to seek out good album tracks ("Your Smiling Face" was the big find for me, plus I've always loved "Close Range").
1 Temptation2 19633 Love Vigilantes4 Bizarre Love Triangle5 True Faith6 Vanishing Point7 Close Range8 Run9 Blue Monday10 Waiting For The Siren's Call11 Regret12 Age of Consent13 Your Silent Face14 Touched By The Hand of God15 All Day Long16 Ruined In A Day17 Crystal18 Fine Time19 Round and Round20 The Perfect Kiss21 Shellshock22 All The Way23 Dreams Never End24 Primitive Notion25 Dream Attack26 Paradise27 Everything's Gone Green28 Confusion29 Sunrise30 World In Motion31 60 Miles An Hour32 Run Wild33 Let's Go (Nothing For Me)34 State of the Nation35 Leave Me Alone36 Way of Life37 The Village38 World39 Subculture40 Every Little Counts
― chris_coolidge, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:58 (thirteen years ago)
Great poll, good work Bee & Milsner!
Here's my ballot, mainly compiled using my iTunes playcounts,
1 Your Silent Face2 Temptation3 The Perfect Kiss4 Ceremony5 Thieves Like Us6 Blue Monday7 19638 Everything's Gone Green9 Bizarre Love Triangle10 Confusion11 Subculture12 In A Lonely Place13 Fine Time14 Procession15 State Of The Nation16 Shellshock17 True Faith18 Lonesome Tonight19 5-8-620 Age Of Consent21 Dreams Never End22 Murder23 Hurt24 Elegia25 Round & Round26 The Village27 Touched By The Hand Of God28 Cries And Whispers29 Leave Me Alone30 Love Vigilantes31 Ultraviolence32 Doubts Even Here33 ICB34 The Beach35 Run36 We All Stand37 Mr Disco38 Truth39 Guilty Partner40 Vanishing Point
― nate woolls, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:10 (thirteen years ago)
I didn't vote for Blue Monday even though if I would have actually voted what I know to be the best new Order tracks, it would have been top 5.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:44 (thirteen years ago)
1. Temptation2. Bizarre Love Triangle3. Ceremony4. Regret5. Subculture6. The Perfect Kiss7. Fine Time8. Love Vigilantes9. Age of Consent10. True Faith11. Thieves Like Us12. Face Up13. Lonesome tonight14. Blue Monday15. Round and Round16. All the way 17. Love less 18. Run19. Your Silent Face20. 196321. Confusion22. Every Little Counts23. Mr Disco24. Brutal25. Vanishing Point26. Dreams Never End27. ICB28. The Village29. All Day Long30. Crystal31. Waiting for the Siren's Call32. As it is when it was33. Primitive Notion34. Touched by the Hand of God35. MTO36. 58637. Procession38. In a lonely place39. Here to stay40. World in motion
Ordering after about 20 a bit arbitrary.
FORGOT:Leave Me Alone. Should be top 20.
― woof, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:57 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, and thank you so much Bee and Millsner, Great roll-out, great images.
― woof, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:58 (thirteen years ago)
guess what I'm gonna do to you! whoo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWuwPIgydg
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)
this will be interesting to find out, have some things to do but will get back to you on this one.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 2 June 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
the vote count you posted for the songs was complete right? we should be able to figure out the answer to that from those figures.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:07 (thirteen years ago)
I always under-rate Temptation, probably because I have the original 7" and the snare is mixed too damn loud. Later mixes reveal the true glory of the tune. Anyway, I guess my ballot is pretty uncontroversial, although I would have liked to see Chosen Time and Ecstasy place higher than they did.
1. Ceremony2. Chosen Time3. True Faith4. Blue Monday5. Shellshock6. Age of Consent7. Leave Me Alone8. Procession9. Ecstasy10. Regret11. Doubts Even Here12. World (Price of Love)13. Bizarre Love Triangle14. Confusion15. The Perfect Kiss16. Thieves Like Us17. Dream Attack18. Your Silent Face19. Dreams Never End20. Temptation21. Everything’s Gone Green22. Vanishing Point23. 196324. The Village25. Fine Time26. We All Stand27. 58628. Sunrise29. Someone Like You30. Young Offender31. Ultraviolence32. Avalanche33. Waiting for the Siren’s Call34. 60 Miles an Hour35. Crystal36. Round and Round37. Run 238. Liar39. Subculture40. All Day Long
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)