I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)

Pleased with the top 5, though I'm sick of "True Faith," myself. However the top 2 fall is fine with me.

New Order wrote and recorded "True Faith" and "1963" during a 10-day studio session with producer Stephen Hague. The two songs were written as new material for New Order's first singles compilation album, Substance 1987. After the two songs were recorded, the band's US management decided that "True Faith" was the stronger track and would be released as the new single, with "1963" as the B-side. "1963" was remixed and issued as a single in its own right in 1994.

"True Faith" was never used as a track on a regular album, though it did appear on most of New Order's "best of" collections (Substance 1987, The Best of New Order, Retro, Singles and International). The first public performance of the song took place at the 1987 Glastonbury Festival; this version appears on the group's BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert album.

The original 7" version of the song did not appear on any album until 2011's "Total from Joy Division to New Order".

lol want Ceremony to win now for maximum Turrican butthurt

the big question now. is world in motion going to win this? if temptation is next it will, i guess. but i hope ceremony is next.

lol want Ceremony to win now for maximum Turrican butthurt

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:07 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're a bit late for that... that happened when 'Doubts Even Here' came in at #43. "lol".

But hello anyway, zappi! You might want to put that bag of Doritos now, get out of those sweatpants and see some sunlight. Kthx. Bai!

*away

Pleased with the top 5, though I'm sick of "True Faith," myself. However the top 2 fall is fine with me.

― Kent Burt, Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's been a few times over the years that I've thought that I was getting tired of 'True Faith', but really I never seem to. There's been pieces of music I've listened to death over the years where even if I take a break from it and come back to it, it seems to have lost its power through a lot of listens. When I haven't heard 'True Faith' for a while and I find myself listening to it again, it still remains as potent as ever.

hello Turrican! its funny watching people get upset about nothing on the internet, isn't it!

ugh, Temptation beating out TPK and True Faith...

I'm just waking up to the horror that World In Motion might actually not make this. If Ceremony shows...

'temptation' always seemed to me the one that was most likely to the favorite of indie kids who liked dance music but didn't like dance music that much

True Faith, Silent Morning, The Promise and Pure Energy were in constant rotation and probably my favorite era of Pop radio in the States.

like, temptation was still raw enough in the margins that you wouldn't be betraying your indie ideals

hello Turrican! its funny watching people get upset about nothing on the internet, isn't it!

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:15 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not so much upset, it's called passion, and if you have none then you're on the wrong forum. Likewise, if this is how you get your kicks then I guess it's not so bad if 'Ceremony' isn't #1 after all... I mean, no matter what places and where it places, I clearly don't have a life as colossally empty as yours seems to be :) Dark in that basement, is it?

*isn't=is

Easy fellas, no need to play out a Barney vs Hooky scenario in this thread.

Turrican's sloppy typos perfectly in keeping w/this poll at any rate

ugh, Temptation beating out TPK and True Faith...
'temptation' always seemed to me the one that was most likely to the favorite of indie kids who liked dance music but didn't like dance music that much
like, temptation was still raw enough in the margins that you wouldn't be betraying your indie ideals

― 乒乓

Yeah... I think this is ultimately one of the problems that I have with 'Temptation'. I like it, and I think the chorus is catchy as all hell, yet I'm not totally convinced they recorded a really great version of it. Where they seemed to nail a lot of other tracks in the studio, I don't think they got the best out of this one whenever they came to record it. I'm sure if it had been produced in a Technique kind of way, I would love it without any reservations.

Turrican's sloppy typos perfectly in keeping w/this poll at any rate

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hehehehe ;) It's late and the fingers are moving faster than I can think at the moment... hehehehe...

other people's projections tend to give away more themselves than they realize. it's fascinating!

Did you hear the version they rerecorded in 98? Think it was 98, anyway, it's quite good and may fit your tastes.

the idiosyncratic production (to put it generously) on the original 7"/12" of temptation are definitely part of their appeal. the song's charm and passion shine through the murk.

the '87 version has one of barney's best-ever vocals

temptation '98 is alright

my favourite version of all is probably their performance from the 1981 Taras Shevchenko video, where it wasn't even fully hashed-out yet!

other people's projections tend to give away more themselves than they realize. it's fascinating!

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:25 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe you should take a look at your own, then, they're a revelation to say the least. I mean, I've only read a couple of your posts and I've suddenly found myself surprised that amoebas now have internet access. Huh, guess you lot are evolving though, so that's good.

I think my problem with Temptation is that I knew the remix first, which is dreadful.

Is that the song where he gets shocked by the mic?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wCsle7_IeBQ/UapXSFdo1BI/AAAAAAAAAgs/px4GtzQ9504/w640-h320-no/2+Ceremony.jpg

2. Ceremony
From: Ceremony
Released: 6 March 1981
1332 Points, 38 Votes, 5 Number Ones

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1. Temptation
From: Temptation
Released: 10 May 1982
1458 Points, 40 Votes, 9 Number Ones

thank goodness a dance track won out and not Ceremony, as much as i love ceremony

5 number ones only ties Ceremony with Dream Attack.

Legend says someone tossed a snowball down Bernard's shirt while he was recording the vocals to the original version. 7" and 12" versions are also supposedly meant to be played consecutively since one fades in and the other fades out.

not even close, huh

Did you hear the version they rerecorded in 98? Think it was 98, anyway, it's quite good and may fit your tastes.

― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually, I haven't! I've heard the original 7" and of course the '87 version on Substance... I'll give the '98 version a try, though. The problem I have with the Substance version is the sequencer line seems to be mixed too low, which is the whole thing that the song is built on!

LOL thank goodness a dance track. You people are funny.

"Ceremony" too low shock, etc, etc.

I do like that TPK got the most #1s of all, so there's a little consolation.

lol Turrican, that's some of the laziest zinging i've seen in a while
anyway good job on the poll Bee!
http://i.imgur.com/5SlPWAz.gif

I love that after 30 years of breaking down the stigma of dance music in indie culture, this poll ended like some fight between Xgau and Dave Marsh ca. 1982.

The best way to exorcise the Joy Division ghost was to create a song that made it self up as it went along. It could be two minutes, 10, 46, doesn't matter; it acquires verses and riffs like a rock rolling down a mountain does snow.

And it's all over! Thanks Bee for the hard work! :D

as for "True Faith," I never burned out on it: it just never received the airplay here that the others did.

Yes, thanks to Bee and Millsner for all the hard work. This is the first and last poll I'll participate in.

lol Turrican, that's some of the laziest zinging i've seen in a while

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:33 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Who says I was attempting to 'zing' you? Not at all. I just legitimately think you're an amoeba, that's all :) 'Zinging' is for people who spend too much time online. We don't do that in the real world, you see.

+1
Great job, boys and girls.

my ballot

tracks
1. temptation
2. everything's gone green
3. your silent face
4. round & round
5. 5 8 6
6. run
7. sub-culture
8. ceremony
9. fine time
10. age of consent
11. thieves like us
12. true faith
13. cries and whispers
14. regret
15. chosen time
16. sunrise
17. dream attack
18. lonesome tonight
19. confusion
20. blue monday
21. elegia
22. every little counts
23. doubts even here
24. bizarre love triangle
25. vanishing point
26. the village
27. broken promise
28. icb
29. in a lonely place
30. evil dust
31. procession
32. love vigilantes
33. senses
34. leave me alone
35. all the way
36. weirdo
37. mesh
38. face up
39. mfo
40. world in motion

albums
1. technique
2. power, corruption & lies
3. movement
4. low-life
5. brotherhood

videos
1. perfect kiss
2. confusion
3. round & round
4. true faith
5. world in motion

originally had round & round at 3 and perfect kiss at 4, decided to flip them and then accidentally left perfect kiss entirely off my ballot even though it was a contender for number one and is almost definitely the new order track i've listened to the most in my life. true faith making it to 3 w/ no number one votes seems weirdly fitting.

I love that after 30 years of breaking down the stigma of dance music in indie culture, this poll ended like some fight between Xgau and Dave Marsh ca. 1982.

― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:33 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hehehehehe... yeah. The strange thing is, I know a fair few people who, even though they tell me they like Joy Division's music, won't even give New Order a chance because they think their output is limited to songs like 'Blue Monday', 'True Faith' and 'World In Motion'. Oftentimes, and this has surprised me, it seems that many people don't even realise that New Order never actually stopped being a guitar-bass-drums band and did many songs in that configuration.

Tracks (alphabetical, all equal)
All The Way
Bizarre Love Triangle
Californian Grass
Ceremony
Chosen Time
Confusion
Crystal
Denial
Doubts Even Here
Dracula's Castle
Dream Attack
Dreams Never End
Elegia
Everything's Gone Green
Hey Now What You Doing
The Him
ICB
Mesh
Morning Night & Day
Procession
Regret
Ruined In A Day
Senses
Someone Like You
Sooner Than You Think
Sunrise
Thieves Like Us
True Faith
Truth
Turn
Turn My Way
Turn the Heater On
Vanishing Point
Vicious Streak
Waiting For The Sirens' Call
Who's Joe?
World
World In Motion
1963
5-8-6

Albums
1 Movement
2 Get Ready
3 Low-Life
4 Waiting for the Sirens’ Call
5 Technique

44 Ballots
Full results for 116 songs:

1458 Temptation 40-9
1332 Ceremony 38-5
1211 True Faith 38
1168 The Perfect Kiss 38-4
1149 Regret 36-4
1134 Bizarre Love Triangle 37
1093 Age Of Consent 35
965 Your Silent Face 35-1
946 Blue Monday 33-1
852 Dream Attack 28-5

804 Vanishing Point 33-2
790 Procession 28-3
787 Everything’s Gone Green 31
780 1963 (30
776 Love Vigilantes 34-1
775 Thieves Like Us 28
772 Dreams Never End 32
739 All the Way 31
714 Round & Round 29
656 Leave Me Alone 27

648 Fine Time 27
603 Confusion 28
573 Run 26
511 Sub-culture 23
495 Lonesome Tonight 25
492 The Village 26
488 Chosen Time 18-2
472 Shellshock 22
469 All Day Long 23-1
465 Hurt 14

440 5 8 6 (22
417 Mr. Disco 20
414 Crystal 24
413 In a Lonely Place 21
402 Cries And Whispers 18
393 Face Up 20
392 Elegia 23
370 Touched by the Hand Of God 19
340 Love Less 20
323 World (The Price of Love) 17

309 Guilty Partner 17
303 Sunrise 19
297 Doubts Even Here 14
282 ICB 15
265 Here To Stay 15
261 Ruined in a Day 12
260 Weirdo 15
249 Waiting For the Siren’s Call 15
241 Ultraviolence 14
228 Mesh 13

224 Turn the Heater On 9
210 Senses 12
203 Paradise 11
201 Denial 11
195 The Him 8-1
190 Sooner Than You Think 11
190 This Time of Night 9
185 Truth 8
181 Every Little Counts 12
175 Krafty 15

171 Murder 10
170 World In Motion 12-1
152 Ecstasy 10
128 State of the Nation 10
125 Way Of Life 9
122 60 Miles an Hour 7-1
107 Let's Go 5
103 Broken Promise 8
105 Everyone Everywhere 5

94 Someone Like You 6
94 Spooky 4
93 As It Is When It Was 8
93 Turn 7
91 We All Stand 8
85 Primitive Notion 6
80 Run 2 (4
79 Turn My Way 6
67 Morning Night and Day 4
60 Angel Dust 7
58 Too Late 3
55 Vicious Streak 4
55 Video 5 8 6 (2
47 Special 4
45 Hey Now What You Doing 3
45 Young Offender 3
42 Californian Grass 2
42 Close Range 2
37 Who’s Joe? 4
36 Dracula’s Castle 2
33 Don’t Do It 2
32 The Beach 3
32 I’ll Stay With You 2
30 Guilt Is A Useless Emotion 3
29 Avalanche 3
29 The Kiss Of Death 1
28 Run Wild 5
25 Liar 2
25Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) 1
24 Theme from Best & Marsh 2
23 Jetstream 3
21 Such a Good Thing 1
21 Regret (Sabres Slow 'n' Low mix) 1
21 1963 (Arthur Baker remix) 1
20 Brutal 3
19 Sugarcane 1
17 Times Change 1
14 BLT 1
12 Recoil 1
11 Rock the Shack 3
11 Evil Dust 1
10 Slow Jam 2
9 Bizarre Dub Triangle 1
8 MTO 3
8 Working Overtime 1
5 Shame of the Nation 1
4 Told You So 2

as for "True Faith," I never burned out on it: it just never received the airplay here that the others did.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:37 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I recall hearing 'True Faith' far more on the radio or TV here than I ever did with, say, 'Bizarre Love Triangle'. 'Blue Monday' is the track that's had the biggest amount of airplay overall though, I should think!

Thanks, Bee. I like both dance and indie and robot rock all about the same - but they did it best before 1984!

My tiredness of "True Faith" has nothing to do with radio play. Never heard NO on commercial radio here before "Regret."

I did this:

Tracks

01. Ceremony
02. Temptation
03. Age of Consent
04. Lonesome Tonight
05. Leave Me Alone
06. Cries And Whispers
07. Truth
08. Your Silent Face
09. Confusion
10. The Him
11. Everything's Gone Green
12. Procession
13. Dreams Never End
14. Hurt
15. The Village
16. 5-8-6
17. Thieves Like Us
18. ICB
19. Mesh
20. In A Lonely Place
21. The Perfect Kiss
22. Weirdo
23. Regret
24. All The Way
25. Turn The Heater On
26. Blue Monday
27. Ultraviolence
28. Too Late
29. As It Is When It Was
30. Face Up
31. Here To Stay
32. Run
33. Love Vigilantes
34. Waiting For The Sirens' Call
35. Senses
36. Love Less
37. Krafty
38. Angel Dust
39. Denial
40. Chosen Time

Albums

01. Movement
02. Power, Corruption and Lies
03. Low-life
04. Brotherhood
05. Technique

Videos

01. The Perfect Kiss
02. Confusion
03. True Faith
04. Bizarre Love Triangle
05. Touched By The Hand Of God