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Yeah, for a lot of New Order fans, the sloppiness is actually part of the charm... I like it when they balance the "earnest, enthusiastic amateurishness" with a decent production job, though! But it is quite OTM, that... maybe the "enthusiastic amateurishness" makes the music feel quite breezy as opposed to laboured.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:29 (thirteen years ago)
'Thieves Like Us' is Jason Donovan's favourite song of all time. i wish i could find the picture of him solemnly holding up the sleeve of Substance in Smash Hits circa 87.
― piscesx, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:31 (thirteen years ago)
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7. Age of ConsentFrom: Power Corruption & LiesReleased: 2 May 19831093 Points, 35 Votes
― Bee OK, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:34 (thirteen years ago)
0 Number Ones and made it to 7
Pumped Full Of Drugs, in full here for anyone who fancies it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5g-GihEouk
― piscesx, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
'Age Of Consent', to me, is the typical New Order track on a musical level... I guess it's because of the i-iv chord progression, which is a staple of loads of New Order songs. It's always amazed me how often they've got away with using two chords in their songs, but yet doing so much with them.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)
getting away with playing I-IV over and over again is the barest essence of rock music
― ttyih boi (crüt), Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:42 (thirteen years ago)
Bernard's been getting away with it all his life!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:45 (thirteen years ago)
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6. Bizarre Love TriangleFrom: BrotherhoodReleased: 5 November 1986 (single) 29 September 1986 (album)1134 Points, 37 Votes
― Bee OK, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:55 (thirteen years ago)
Not a single number one!?
― Millsner, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:56 (thirteen years ago)
who's keeping count? how many number ones were given to the chosen 5 then? more than 50%?
― g simmel, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:57 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah I'm shocked. It's my ex's favorite song of all time.
― Vinnie, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:59 (thirteen years ago)
how many times do I have to tell you just what you want me to?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:02 (thirteen years ago)
VERY surprised that 'Bizarre Love Triangle' didn't make Top 5, actually! I love this song, one of New Order's most perfect disco-oriented tracks that offer the perfect alternative to the more introspective likes of 'Your Silent Face' and 'Doubts Even Here'. The fact that it's placed outside of the Top 5 is a testament to the behaviour of the voters here at ILM. I'm intrigued now as to what's going to come up next, now... Please, do go on!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:02 (thirteen years ago)
also, it's a sandwich
― Millsner, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:03 (thirteen years ago)
What I love most about 'Bizarre Love Triangle' is that keyboard line that comes in, just before the most sunniest of choruses comes in. It's just perfect... I don't think the chords change throughout the whole song, but they still manage to find a way through skillful arranging to make that chorus just burst in like it's on another level to the rest of the track. It's as perfect to listen to late at night on the headphones as it is soundtracking the nightlife. In fact, if I ever want a quick release of pure unadulterated joy, this is the track I reach for. It's so electric it has me saying "yes"!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:06 (thirteen years ago)
I don't get the appeal of wanting to hear BLT in a "real" acoustic version.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:07 (thirteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:08 (thirteen years ago)
can you hear me doctor mu
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:08 (thirteen years ago)
Well Alfred, I guess you're fundamentaly not the kind that needs to tell me
― g simmel, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:10 (thirteen years ago)
New Order used an E-mu didn't they? :D
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:10 (thirteen years ago)
What I love most about 'Bizarre Love Triangle' is that keyboard line that comes in, just before the most sunniest of choruses comes in. It's just perfect... I don't think the chords change throughout the whole song, but they still manage to find a way through skillful arranging to make that chorus just burst in like it's on another level to the rest of the track. It's as perfect to listen to late at night on the headphones as it is soundtracking the /nightlife/. In fact, if I ever want a quick /release/ of pure unadulterated joy, this is the track I reach for. It's so /electric/ it has me saying "/yes/"!
If the latter, there's almost a faux-classical flourish to them -- they're kind of not played evenly and on a somewhat cheap sounding keyboard.
In other words, a perfect New Order moment.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:11 (thirteen years ago)
I meant the arpeggios, but the staccato keyboard part before the arpeggios come in lays the groundwork for those arpeggios perfectly. I agree with you, it's a perfect New Order moment, and one of their finest singles.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:14 (thirteen years ago)
i had every intention of finishing this poll tonight.
however something has come up, nothing bad. friends have just shown up, it is my birthday weekend after all!
― Bee OK, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:16 (thirteen years ago)
Top 5 (now) tomorrow.
Happy birthday, then! You're doing a great job. I look forward to TOP 5 SATURDAY.
― Millsner, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:17 (thirteen years ago)
Happy birthday, Bee!
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:18 (thirteen years ago)
Ah, I understand, it's 4am here after all and you can't be being boring on your birthday weekend. Have yourself a bit of a fun and we'll see you tomorrow, and much appreciated for your work so far :)
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:18 (thirteen years ago)
cheers man
― g simmel, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:19 (thirteen years ago)
hey man -- go! Sumner would!
He wakes up every night on the stairs waiting for the dawn to come
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:20 (thirteen years ago)
I bet Sumner at the tail end of the '80s into the early '90s was a fucking blast to party with.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:25 (thirteen years ago)
the only time he was cute too
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:27 (thirteen years ago)
...the way they throw so much into some songs (e.g. the frog noises in 'The Perfect Kiss', hey sure why not).
― fit and working again, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:59 (thirteen years ago)
I remember reading something about when they got their first Emulator, they spent their first day with it sampling their farts.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:28 (thirteen years ago)
I love the way you guys all write about New Order, this poll has been such a joy to read. I am so excited for this top five!
Happy Birthday Bee!
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:35 (thirteen years ago)
hey this long version of The Perfect Kiss I downloaded still isn't right! The intro is shorter than the video one! I'm so mad.
Thanks for sterling work and enjoy yr birthday, Bee.
― Bob Bunsen (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:44 (thirteen years ago)
The video version is a live performance, that's why! :D
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:47 (thirteen years ago)
The long version of 'The Perfect Kiss' you want is the one that's on the 2-CD deluxe edition of Low Life, the long version they included on Substance unforgivably shaves about a minute off the end.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:50 (thirteen years ago)
ah, thanks! The video must be the best live-in-studio music video I've ever seen, I love the tense seriousness.
― Bob Bunsen (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:52 (thirteen years ago)
A degree of nerves too... you can see Stephen Morris' hands shaking as he plays those painfully simple keyboard lines!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 1 June 2013 05:23 (thirteen years ago)
I'm biased cuz I live in Miami but the Shep Pettibone remix of "Bizarre Love Triangle," like, never went away.
When I was 16 I went on my last family holiday - to Disneyworld in Orlando, my first time in America. My younger sister and I were left in the underage disco for an hour or so and the only song I remember dancing to was Shep's BLT mix. In that context Bernard's voice felt like the most English thing imaginable. It was so potent.
20+ years later I went to the V&A's postmodernism exhibition, where the last thing you see on your way out is the BLT video, and it choked me up in an entirely different way - "why can't we be ourselves like we were yesterday?"
― Deafening silence (DL), Saturday, 1 June 2013 10:14 (thirteen years ago)
Interesting claim about BLT on Wikipedia:
The one country where it was a sizable chart hit was Australia, where it reached No. 5 (and No. 1 in the Victoria state chart), initiating a string of five consecutive Top 20 hits.
It certainly did felt massive in said state. Was definitely my introduction to the band (though I subsequently realised I'd heard "Shellshock") and felt like I'd come slightly late to what all the cool, slightly older kids had decided was the song of the (southern) summer.
Actually just found my cassette dub of my then neighbour's copy of the 12", and "Bizarre Dub Triangle" is reminding me how ridiculously durable this thing is in any configuration. I could conceivably have given it more points really.
BTW, I'm not sure Frente deserve disdain for their "real" version of the song. I recall them saying it was their favourite song, just as it was seemingly just about everyone else's, and they merely performed it in their usual acoustic style, as a b-side.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 1 June 2013 11:40 (thirteen years ago)
Er, "certainly did FEEL..."
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 1 June 2013 11:41 (thirteen years ago)
frente's version was just a retread of even as we speak's acoustic version from several years earlier (that they were definitely aware of)
― crabby pate (electricsound), Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:19 (thirteen years ago)
bizarre love triangle not in the top 5 feels... bizarre!
― 乒乓, Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:37 (thirteen years ago)
― Bee OK, Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:34 (12 hours ago)
if i voted in these things age of consent would be #1
― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:38 (thirteen years ago)
BLT is Doulgas Coupland's favourite song apparently
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 1 June 2013 15:32 (thirteen years ago)
Love for Bizarre Love Triangle was legion at my high school, so for a time you would see ?♥∆ written on every available surface... walls, book covers, folders, backpacks, the soles of shoes, wrists, on the windows of dirty cars, etc.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)
I've never really felt The Perfect Kiss love that much, Barney's vocal is too strained for the track in a way it isn't on other New Order bangers.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:45 (thirteen years ago)
TPK is all about the arrangement, the way everything careens off the tracks in the last few minutes.
― 乒乓, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:57 (thirteen years ago)