"Cries & Whispers" is deffo too low. Top 10 for me.
I was one of the #1 votes for Movement so that should have been higher than 4th, but I don't bow at the altar of Technique like most of you.
I voted for most of what has placed so far. Looking forward to more!
xp. Alfred, I know people always get C&W mixed up with "Mesh" thanks to someone screwing up the titles on the Substance b-sides disc/tape, but I have never heard of anyone mixing up C&W and "Hurt" before. :-/
― Kent Burt, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:33 (thirteen years ago)
I blame them: titles and so on.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:35 (thirteen years ago)
now I realize I've never owned "Mesh" in any form.
at this point i wonder whether my #2 didn't make the top 40 at all or it's a lot more popular than i thought
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:37 (thirteen years ago)
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33. CrystalFrom: Get Ready Released: 13 August 2001 (single) and 27 August 2001 (album)414 Points, 24 Votes
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:39 (thirteen years ago)
Should be higher: top twenty. What a fantastic shock to hear this in summer '01.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:40 (thirteen years ago)
Surprised this is so low. Doesn't bode well for the rest of Get Ready, either.
― Millsner, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:44 (thirteen years ago)
"Crystal" got just 1 more point then "In A Lonely Place." 24 people voted for it compared to 21 for "In A Lonely Place." it deserved to come out on top.
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:47 (thirteen years ago)
I love In a Lonely Place, but Crystal is where I am at these days.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:55 (thirteen years ago)
Whoa. Shocked at this so low. Definitely means no Primitive Notion now. Easily one of the best songs they've done since the glory years of the mid80s.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:56 (thirteen years ago)
maybe some Get Ready strategists sacrificed Crystal to boost... every other song from that album.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:06 (thirteen years ago)
I fully expect Rock the Shack in at #5
― Millsner, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:10 (thirteen years ago)
Alfred otm about Crystal -- it sounded SO GOOD at the time ( with an exception for honey/money but hey who cares with a beat like that) Yaaaay crystal.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:10 (thirteen years ago)
One of my top ten has placed already. Kinda bummed about that, but I understand why (it was 'Here to Stay').
But, I have to say, as someone who was disgusted by Republic upon revisiting it for this poll, I'm pretty upset at this juncture.
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)
And yeah, what the fucking hell RE: 'Mesh'????????????!?!?!?!!!!!
It's identified as 'Mesh' on my copy of Substance, but upon further investigation, that song that's labeled 'Mesh' is clearly 'Cries and Whispers.'
I'm fucking befuddled.
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:14 (thirteen years ago)
Seems about right for "Crystal" tbh. Sooooo freakin' many definitive 80s tracks innit.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:16 (thirteen years ago)
The track listing on Substance is wrong. What is Cries and Whispers they label as Mesh. Mesh is not on Substance at all.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:17 (thirteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:17 (thirteen years ago)
it's one of the most notorious mislabellings in the history of rock
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:18 (thirteen years ago)
Disgusted?!?
i'd agree with that
guys, that was my #1 album pick, come on
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:19 (thirteen years ago)
Republic sucks.
Bad.
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:20 (thirteen years ago)
i didn't like it back in the day, and liked it even less on relistening to it
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:21 (thirteen years ago)
Maybe it was mislabled on the original single? And the labeling on Substance was the correction?
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:22 (thirteen years ago)
It appears on the Factory Benelux 'Everything's Gone Green' single, and on the 1981–1982 EP. Both are labelled correctly.
― Millsner, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:23 (thirteen years ago)
it was mislabelled on 81-82 ep iirc?
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:23 (thirteen years ago)
or not
Has the band ever clarified?
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:24 (thirteen years ago)
apparently the FBN 12" is incorrect according to http://www.discogs.com/New-Order-Everythings-Gone-Green/release/1197986
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
ah, that's it then.
I have the 1981–1982 EP and it's definitely fine.
― Millsner, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
the total lack of connection between titles and lyrics certainly hasn't helped
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:27 (thirteen years ago)
So wait. . .
What we've known as 'Mesh' on Substance is actually its real title? And that was the correction?
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:29 (thirteen years ago)
what? no
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
the Mesh/ Cries And Whispers mis-titling and other confusions are cleared up by the Recycle blog
http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2009-08-04T19:40:00-07:00&max-results=35&start=28&by-date=false
― piscesx, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
it is also cleared up on those 2CD sets that came out by Rhino a few years back.
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:32 (thirteen years ago)
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32. Mr DiscoFrom: TechniqueReleased: 30 January 1989417 Points, 20 Votes
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:35 (thirteen years ago)
my god this song -- it's indie rock reconfigured as a late eighties version of disco.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)
Don't mind seeing "Crystal" this low. Never cared for it that much - thought it was seen by most as sub-Electronic?
― Kent Burt, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:42 (thirteen years ago)
'Mr. Disco' — fuck yeah.
My #11 though, so obviously I think it should be higher.
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:45 (thirteen years ago)
so " Mr Disco" got 417 points, 3 more points than "Crystal." "Mr Disco" had 20 votes and won to "Crystal" 24 votes.
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:50 (thirteen years ago)
I love how Mr Disco salvages the bass sequencer from State of the Nation in service of a much better song
― Millsner, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:05 (thirteen years ago)
I guess As It Is, When It Was wont be placing.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:10 (thirteen years ago)
^^^I voted for it.
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:14 (thirteen years ago)
"Mr Disco" is great, didn't make my Top 40 however.
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:19 (thirteen years ago)
yeah same w/ me
― balls, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:21 (thirteen years ago)
I'm disappointed Crystal is so low, I have a feeling apart from Regret there won't be anything else from the last three albums in the list now.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:27 (thirteen years ago)
(not that there's anything wrong with that)
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:29 (thirteen years ago)
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31. 5 8 6From: Power, Corruption & LiesReleased: 2 May 1983440 Points, 22 Votes
― Bee OK, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:33 (thirteen years ago)
surprising
― crabby pate (electricsound), Friday, 31 May 2013 03:35 (thirteen years ago)
I didn't vote for it, but wow, what a great track.
― Austin, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:39 (thirteen years ago)