Rolling Jazz Thread 2013

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Only 57 I think. Too young to go.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

Like this guitarist a lot, has a new record coming out with Ches Smith on drums:
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/chocolate-grinder/premiere-nick-millevoi-and-ed-ricart-quartet-linive

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 June 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Been listening to this Jemeel Moondoc Trio record from 1982, with Ed Blackwell on drums. I love his drumming so much. I've actually loved his drumming pretty much as long as I have been listening to jazz, since when I first heard him on Ornette Coleman records.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 28 June 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

I would have sex with all this cool jazz, if I actually had a working turntable and stero right now.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

debated keeping the red norvo trio EP just in case i decided to become a Mingus completist, but i don't think i have enough time or money to become a Mingus completist. plus, i have the collected trio 2XLP and i think that's probably good for me. the original math rockers.

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

the defranco/tristano and the chico hamilton trio records in particular intrigue me

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

spent hours last night reading about SEECO Records and DAWN Records. that's where i'm at. stuck in the 50's.

http://www.bsnpubs.com/latin/seeco.html

http://www.bsnpubs.com/latin/dawn.html

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

would like to be a dawn records completist, but again, time, money...

scott seward, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just got a download of the new Nick Hempton Band CD, Odd Man Out. It's coming out on 8/13 (available digitally starting 7/30). It's his second for Posi-Tone, third overall. He's an alto saxophonist, originally from Australia but living/working in NYC since 2004. The band is a quartet (piano, bass, drums) but they add a trombonist on several tracks here. His music is straightahead, mostly uptempo hard bop and blues (he's on Posi-Tone), but his tone is clean and the band is tight, and I always like his albums.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 20 July 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

I saw that guy downtown at B-flat a few months ago, subbing for the regular guy on their jazz night, he was pretty good. There are a few Aussie jazz musicians around town along with people who may have lived down there and may have been married to some of them at some point, a few of them are named Matt, playing piano and having spiky hair. The elder statesman of the down under scene is actually a Kiwi, I believe, Mike Nock.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 July 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link

I posted on Facebook that with his new beard, he kinda looks like Jandek:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1013496_10201917208994597_1284556876_n.jpg

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 20 July 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

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dow, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

Does anyone else ever go through long phases of jazz "burnout"? Maybe it's just because I started listening to jazz so young and listened so obsessively, but lately I find most jazz just doesn't scratch the right itch for me.

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link

*raises hand*

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

It's weird too, the way I perceive a lot of jazz seems to have changed, like it used to feel like this edgy sonic adventure for me, and now it feels more meandery and self-indulgent. I'm massively generalizing of course.

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

In my case, I will still happily go see a show, but sometimes have little inclination to put on an album or listen to the radio.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure it's also age -- I don't have that many opportunities to just sit down with a good pair of headphones and really get INTO a record, and sometimes jazz requires that.

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Sometimes for me I think "I should be learning how to play these tunes, not just listening for enjoyment."

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

totally. but then every now and then i get burnt out on electronic music too, and i just want to hear people play instruments really well.

i guess i look at it as a common vocabulary that's there for musicians to communicate with & learn, but after a point it's like, ok, what are you going to do with it? maybe it's not the end goal. and these days everyone plays everything, but you still find some jazz musicians with that true believer mentality, where it's like a holy quest to develop your voice and lead bands and gripe about the state of jazz. and that's a beautiful thing in a way, but a rough career choice.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

discovered there was a new bob james/david sanborn record bc of nate chinen's smooth jazz piece in the nyt; it's acoustic and brubeck-y, which would feel cynical if it weren't holy christ incredible. steve gadd on drums.

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

i don't really get him but i think of bob james as the smooth jazz guy who also hires good drummers ("take it to the mardi gras" etc). i once bought an acoustic trio record of his because it had billy kilson (who makes weird smooth jazz records of his own) on it.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

i tried to listen to that a bit, it's nice overall but I can't take David Sanborn's saxy sax tone

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

Bob James is underrated though, at least among the anti-smooth-jazz crowd.

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

Only Bob James I've heard was Explosions, which is tremendous. Apparently, he never went back to that well.

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hello :) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

I don't get burned out on jazz as a whole, but I definitely get burned out on certain types of jazz, mostly because I know (or communicate with via FB & Twitter) a bunch of other jazz critics and they all get worked up over the same artists at the same time, most of whom I hate or find boring/unappealing. So I go listen to unhip jazz for pure musical pleasure - stuff on Criss Cross or Posi-Tone, mostly, and some Fresh Sound New Talent releases. Shit that has no appeal to New York Times writers, and that is not represented by Fully Altered Media.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Hurting if you had come to Terazza tonight you might have cured your jazz blues. I think you would really like the drummer.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

who?

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

Eric Doob.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link

Some great arco bass playing right now.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link

yeah, checking this guy out on youtube now, he is my kind of drummer

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link

Does anyone else ever go through long phases of jazz "burnout"? Maybe it's just because I started listening to jazz so young and listened so obsessively, but lately I find most jazz just doesn't scratch the right itch for me.

i haven't, i think, but i've gone through long periods where i didn't listen to that much, and then came back and found it refreshing. but i've noticed that it seemed more gripping to me when i was younger and more in touch with performing. after a certain point i wasn't so much 'listening along', as if playing myself.

but then i kind of stopped doing that with other kinds of music too.

i think this might relate to my having an easier interest in free improv. around the time my jazz listening first dwindled in a big way, i was trying to get more into post-60s 'serious' jazz of various sorts, so, you know, buying matthew shipp and evan parker and whatever records, and got a little miffed that it often sounded to me like pointless playing - just playing whatever for whatever arbitrary reasons. when i came back to some more recent stuff in the past few years, though - and leaning a bit more euro, a bit less coltraney, and a bit less jazz-musicians-can-play-pop-see!! - it felt easier to just listen, let them be what they were and hear them with interest.

j., Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:15 (ten years ago) link

yeah I definitely think it has something to do with (not) playing for me too -- I used to really "ride" the solos partly because I wanted to tap into what made them work I guess. But it was a very visceral experience at the time. I used to just hole up in the college library basement where the listening stations were and I'd get pretty intense in the little cubicles -- probably was making ridiculous faces, twitching, moving in funny ways, etc. I was 100% serious about it.

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link

I guess all intense musical enjoyment requires a little bit of fantasy and a little bit of suspension of disbelief.

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link

Meanwhile back in Queens, just realized the eagerly awaited new house drum set has arrived.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link

sweet, what kind of kit?

undescended listicle (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link

Custom made, called Maelo, guy teaches at the collective I think.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

fwiw enjoying the Farmers By Nature records, had never checked them out (Taborn/Parker/Cleaver)

PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlnq9S07i9w

via checking out eric doob, i'm seeing this as n/a on trumpet and kevin mcdonald on bone

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

also if i haven't mentioned it, the Inbetweens have a great new album out:

http://theinbetweens.bandcamp.com/

(nyc guitar/acoustic bass/drums trio, dope mix of interplay/melody/psych/etc)

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link

his drumming has a lot of "bounce" to it, which complements the trombone really nicely.

PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

Jordan my band also recorded at Seaside Lounge and I know the guy who recorded that.

PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

nice, it sounds good. the drummer of that band also plays with my homies youngbl00d br@ss band, the guitarist has done tours with another friend's band, etc.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link

Bass player in that video, Jorge Roeder, was also on the gig last night, which was the classic version of Victor Prieto's trio, without any guest stars, although there are many good configurations. Trumpet player in video just had a birthday a week and a half ago.

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link

/jazzdb

Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link


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